Kahorie's DK simulator 2.0 Beta - Including Cataclysm. - Page 13

Grondarg · 05/20/09, 8:24 AM

Something wierd with Impurity. One point in Impurity(AP bonus of spells increased by 4%) is outperforming Dancing Rune Weapon in your sim.

Report Output from 50/0/21 with 1 point in Impurity with Glyph of Disease:

Ability Total % Landed Hit% Crit% Miss% Average 
Death Strike 942690286 11 134446 53 45 0 7011  
Plague Strike 21919356 0 8579 54 45 0 2555  
Icy Touch 17707351 0 9640 65 33 1 1836  
Heart Strike 2638491858 32 489725 50 48 0 5387  
Death Coil 1086601623 13 276941 57 40 1 3923  
Frost Fever 259422047 3 431626 100 0 0 601  
Blood Plague 259643492 3 431968 100 0 0 601  
Necrosis 414177418 5 539483 100 0 0 767  
Blood Caked Blade 220310480 2 161482 99 0 0 1364  
Main Hand 2071377348 25 539483 59 39 0 3839  
Ghoul 205811712 2 304891 80 12 6 675  
DPS 5651 
Total Damage 8138152971 in 400 h 
Threat Per Second 3334 
Generated in 123s 
Template :51-0-20.xml 
Priority :Blood.xml 
Presence :Blood  
Sigil of :Awareness  
RuneForge :FallenCrusader 
Pet Calculation :True

Report Output from 51/0/20 with DRW and Glyph of DRW

Ability Total % Landed Hit% Crit% Miss% Average 
Death Strike 735185819 9 105084 54 45 0 6996  
Plague Strike 180159482 2 70303 53 45 0 2562  
Icy Touch 124854943 1 70443 66 32 1 1772  
Heart Strike 2456653741 30 456335 50 48 0 5383  
Death Coil 879740843 11 230884 57 40 1 3810  
Frost Fever 249835284 3 431688 100 0 0 578  
Blood Plague 251253636 3 433996 100 0 0 578  
Necrosis 413971163 5 539473 100 0 0 767  
Blood Caked Blade 220341700 2 161831 99 0 0 1361  
Main Hand 2070346810 26 539473 59 39 0 3837  
Ghoul 205707564 2 305015 80 12 6 674  
Dancing Rune Weapon 168463272 2 206860 81 12 6 814  
DPS 5525 
Total Damage 7956514257 in 400 h 
Threat Per Second 3188 
Generated in 126s 
Template :51-0-20.xml 
Priority :Blood.xml 
Presence :Blood  
Sigil of :Awareness  
RuneForge :FallenCrusader 
Pet Calculation :True

Report Output from 51/0/20 with DRW and Glyph of Disease

Ability Total % Landed Hit% Crit% Miss% Average 
Death Strike 923897241 11 131540 53 45 0 7023  
Plague Strike 30407322 0 11934 54 45 0 2547  
Icy Touch 23983529 0 13510 65 32 1 1775  
Heart Strike 2620593723 32 485981 50 48 0 5392  
Death Coil 905918296 11 237958 58 40 1 3807  
Frost Fever 249906489 3 431875 100 0 0 578  
Blood Plague 250244076 3 432422 100 0 0 578  
Necrosis 414372737 5 539545 100 0 0 768  
Blood Caked Blade 219535767 2 161136 99 0 0 1362  
Main Hand 2072354535 25 539545 59 39 0 3840  
Ghoul 206306416 2 306259 80 12 6 673  
Dancing Rune Weapon 122453947 1 142067 81 12 6 861  
DPS 5583 
Total Damage 8039974078 in 400 h 
Threat Per Second 3242 
Generated in 114s 
Template :51-0-20.xml
Priority :Blood.xml 
Presence :Blood  
Sigil of :Awareness  
RuneForge :FallenCrusader 
Pet Calculation :True

Orlgin · 05/20/09, 9:04 AM

I don't think this is a bug either. It's telling how awful DRW has become.

Look at the Death Coil percentages and you figure out what happened: Death Coil damage percentage went up 2% when you didn't have DRW and had a point in Impurity. Instead of putting the runic power in DRW, it fired more Death Coils instead. Due to it's small duration and only 814 damage a hit, the Death Coils were competitive enough that adding one talent point's worth of DPS put Death Coil over the top.

If there is a bug, it's in the DRW damage calculation. But like I said, I don't think this is a bug.

Afabar · 05/20/09, 9:14 AM

Grondarg,
It looks like Death Coil is more damage per RP than DRW. That is what explain the difference.
I have always found that the simulator was calculating DRW very low but I have check numerous time the calculation never found where or if it was missing something.

Chocoprins · 05/20/09, 9:55 AM

I have some Questions regarding the stats that you input via the Character.xml

Are the Base-stats that you enter the stats after or before talentcalculation ?

I see that the attackpower on the basic-xml file is very low, can i assume that you have to enter your Bonus attackpower here, or do you have to input your total attackpower

Does Horn of the winter get incalculated while in combat or do you have to add these stats from the horn in the Character.xml file

Thanx in advance

Cabal · 05/20/09, 9:58 AM

Originally Posted by Chocoprins

I need to read the...readme

Didnt you notice the small file called README on the folder you downloaded?

Grondarg · 05/20/09, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Afabar

Grondarg,
It looks like Death Coil is more damage per RP than DRW. That is what explain the difference.
I have always found that the simulator was calculating DRW very low but I have check numerous time the calculation never found where or if it was missing something.

I was hoping that it was a bug to be honest. Or maybe too many things having the bonus AP applied to them. But if everything is working properly then this pretty much makes 50/0/21 the best theoretical dps spec for blood.

Afabar · 05/20/09, 12:04 PM

Keep in mind the simulator is made for a Patchwerk like fight. It can't simulate "on demand" burst like XT heart where DRW might be more efficient than just DC as RP dump.

Grondarg · 05/22/09, 3:26 PM

Right. I think Hysteria and Orc Racial + Ghoul will provide me with plenty of burst.

kelben · 05/22/09, 7:14 PM

The one thing that is confusing me at this point, is when i generate EP values, armor pen is valued at far more then str, but when i then swap a str gem for a apr gem, my dps goes down (when simming). Or am I at the magic point where I should start gemming apr for new gear?

dr_AllCOM3 · 06/05/09, 1:30 PM

Oh, didn't notice I'm not banned anymore.

I'm kinda (re)writing a DK sim. If you like to help testing, the link is in my sig. Just spend 5 mins clicking around, that should be enough.

For everything else there's:

Zippyshare.com - DK_DPS_v11.zip

Excel 2007+
OO 3.0+ (no macros)
Mac Office (maybe no macros): Office for Mac - Easy Access to Downloads and Updates | Mactopia (whatever can handle .xlsm files)

Dossou · 06/13/09, 8:36 PM

edit: Never mind, figured out that you'r supposed to input bonus AP not total AP. dur.

Noadha · 06/16/09, 12:18 AM

Looking at Grondarg's outputs, your blood specs need work. Death Strike should never be at the top of your damaging abilities, using any type of priority (Unless he purposfully put DS as his #1 priority), or any type of rotation. Generally, on a boss fight, I average 5-6 Heart Strikes per Death Strike. When I started as blood, I could barely put up a 3:1 ratio, but as I got better (and amazingly enough, as my DPS went up) my ratio moved towards 5-6:1.

Cabal · 06/16/09, 7:16 AM

Originally Posted by Noadha

I fail at reading numbers

Why dont you take a CLOSER look at that report again, before making such a post? You are quite wrong, and did you even use the sim before? If you had, im sure you wouldnt have made this error.

Whatevr · 06/18/09, 3:01 AM

i'm getting constant errors every time i run this simulator:

Unhandled exception has occured in your application. blah blah blah. Conversion from string "" to type 'Integer' is not valid.

I have no clue if this will mean anything but here's the details

************** Exception Text **************
System.InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "" to type 'Integer' is not valid. ---> System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.
at Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat)
at Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToInteger(String Value)
--- End of inner exception stack trace ---
at Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToInteger(String Value)
at DKSIMVB.MainStat.init()
at DKSIMVB.Sim.Initialisation()
at DKSIMVB.Sim.Start(ProgressBar pb, Int32 SimTime, MainForm MainFrm)
at DKSIMVB.MainForm.Button1Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4918 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
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DK Simulator
Assembly Version: 0.8.4.0
Win32 Version: 0.8.4.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Users/Alexander/DKSimulator0.8.4/DK%20Simulator.exe
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Microsoft.VisualBasic
Assembly Version: 8.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 8.0.50727.4918 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Microsoft.VisualBasic/8.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Microsoft.VisualBasic.dll
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System
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4918 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
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System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4918 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
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System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4918 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
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System.Runtime.Remoting
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4918 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Runtime.Remoting/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Runtime.Remoting.dll
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System.Xml
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4918 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
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************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.

Could really use some help

Afabar · 06/18/09, 3:15 AM

It try to convert a string value to an number value. I guess it might come from a field that should contain a numeric value but is empty. You should check in the different config files or re-download the package.