Kahorie's DK simulator 2.0 Beta - Including Cataclysm. - Page 23

GravityDK · 08/17/09, 8:24 AM

Originally Posted by Mind

By the way, does your strenght value gets recalculated after talents? For example, if I'm seeing my stats on blood spec and after put blood spec on simulator does it scale even more? (erronously)

Also, I wonder if this simulator automatically adds the 10% ArP from Blood tree, which does not show in the character panel.

Mind · 08/17/09, 8:27 AM

Originally Posted by GravityDK

Also, I wonder if this simulator automatically adds the 10% ArP from Blood tree, which does not show in the character panel.

I think he said that simultador re-does all talent modifications, so the main problem is getting raw values correct. Anyway I've updated my addon to get raw values of strenght and armor so far. Any modification you want just let me know

dr_AllCOM3 · 08/17/09, 8:28 AM

Originally Posted by GravityDK

Also, I wonder if this simulator automatically adds the 10% ArP from Blood tree, which does not show in the character panel.

Yes, because you have to enter your Arp rating.
Edit: I meant yes

Afabar · 08/17/09, 8:42 AM

1.0.3.1 Release notes

* Some trinkets correction
* Correction on the report that would crash one some trinkets.
* Sim should not crash after a template update.

Here is my result of EP calculation on trinket proc.

EP:	Comet	15161
EP:	DarkMatter	10483
EP:	Bandit	10806
EP:	Necromantic	8709
EP:	Victory	19677
EP:	DCDeath	10806
EP:	Greatness	22096
EP:	DeathChoice	33225
EP:	Pyrite	18387
EP:	OldGod	19032
EP:	Mirror	15483
EP:	BitterAnguish	8064
EP:	GrimToll	21612
EP:	MjolRune	23870
	Template	Unholy Oblit 0-17-54
	Priority	Unholy Oblit
	Presence	Blood
	Sigil	Virulence
	RuneEnchant	FallenCrusader
	Pet Calculation	True

Mind · 08/17/09, 8:46 AM

I have another suggestion for the report display. Can you add another collum with dps values for each ability?

leladax · 08/17/09, 10:41 AM

On Trinkets with hit rating: Is their EP based on melee special hit? In that case, in various setups it may be impossible to not overcap making their value considerably lower. A complex selection menu about them or multiple output about them could be useful. On the other hand, it wouldn't be that bad if the EP was only based on their proc and ignored the base increase in stats since then adding the base stat's increase manually would be straightforward. Many options there.

Afabar · 08/17/09, 10:59 AM

Trinket EP value is only the proc value without the "on equip" stats.

Milaz_ · 08/17/09, 3:02 PM

I'm sorry but is 1.0.3.1 ready for download? I end up on 1.0.1 when I click the link in the first post and I do not see another link. Did I miss something?

Tx for your help. The simulator is very usefull by the way.

dr_AllCOM3 · 08/17/09, 3:39 PM

Small update with trinket fixes. I didn't change the version number.

Amrasellion · 08/17/09, 3:41 PM

A question to the simulator: When you have "on use" trinkets like Wrathstone that gives 850ish AP for 20 secs should you just normalize this AP and add it to your character's AP or is there some other way of adding this?

Afabar · 08/17/09, 3:57 PM

Originally Posted by Amrasellion

A question to the simulator: When you have "on use" trinkets like Wrathstone that gives 850ish AP for 20 secs should you just normalize this AP and add it to your character's AP or is there some other way of adding this?

No, for the moment it's the only solution. I don't plan add "on use" trinket for now. It's a lot of work for not too much added value.

GravityDK · 08/17/09, 4:43 PM

I'm curious how you simulate the RP generation of Scent of Blood for dps purposes?

I'd suggest, if in Frost Presence, you would assume it has a 15% chance every 2 seconds (ie. average boss swing speed).

Also, wonder if you apply the Frost Presence armour multiplier to the character xml's armour value before evaluating the benefit of Bladed Armour talent?

dr_AllCOM3 · 08/18/09, 10:43 AM

1.0.4 Release notes

* Arp was wrong in two ways

ArmorPenetrationRating was totally wrong. The rating was 1539 instead of 15.39.
You should do your EP again

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E.g.:

EP:50	AttackPower	100
EP:50	Strength	284
EP:50	ArmorPenetrationRating	294
	Template	Blood 51-0-20

Descended · 08/19/09, 12:24 AM

This makes me suspicious:

Average for DryRun | 6119
Average for AttackPower | 6174
Average for Strength | 6194
Average for Agility | 6154
Average for CritRating | 6167
Average for HasteRating | 6169
Average for ArmorPenetrationRating | 6193
Average for ExpertiseRating | 6119
Average for HitRating | 6119
Average for SpellHitRating | 6138
Average for WeaponDPS | 6172
Average for WeaponSpeed | 6138
Average for 0T7 | 6085
Average for AttackPower0T7 | 6139
Average for 2T7 | 6110
Average for 4T7 | 6075
Average for 2T8 | 6119
Average for 4T8 | 6144
Average for 2T9 | 6342
Average for 4T9 | 6221

Why would the dry run, hit run, and expertise run averages all be the same, each time I run the EP calculator? The EP results don't seem greatly different that they were a few versions ago, although expertise has moved up from around 220 to about 290. Is this just a display bug with the averages?

Karnical · 08/19/09, 4:03 AM

Originally Posted by Descended

This makes me suspicious:

Average for DryRun | 6119
Average for AttackPower | 6174
Average for Strength | 6194
Average for Agility | 6154
Average for CritRating | 6167
Average for HasteRating | 6169
Average for ArmorPenetrationRating | 6193
Average for ExpertiseRating | 6119
Average for HitRating | 6119
Average for SpellHitRating | 6138
Average for WeaponDPS | 6172
Average for WeaponSpeed | 6138
Average for 0T7 | 6085
Average for AttackPower0T7 | 6139
Average for 2T7 | 6110
Average for 4T7 | 6075
Average for 2T8 | 6119
Average for 4T8 | 6144
Average for 2T9 | 6342
Average for 4T9 | 6221

Why would the dry run, hit run, and expertise run averages all be the same, each time I run the EP calculator? The EP results don't seem greatly different that they were a few versions ago, although expertise has moved up from around 220 to about 290. Is this just a display bug with the averages?

I've noticed the same thing in my EP parses. DryRun, Exp, and Hit are all the same. Which shouldn't be the case as I'm below exp softcap atm and just under spell-hit cap.