Kahorie's DK simulator 2.0 Beta - Including Cataclysm. - Page 25

xylotism · 11/14/09, 4:24 PM

Originally Posted by Larisroth

It's very hard to measure the EP of haste accurately as it changes the series of attacks and when you get procs and the like and so is quite noisy. You can see this if you run a stat scaling run with haste.

As for the hit rating I believe the sim starts at the melee cap and compares that in both directions. It's actually quite hard to work out how to measure the value of hit rating, as the break points are pretty close together.

Hm... should I not trust the haste values then? How accurate does the sim get?

For hit, what do you mean by the "break points are pretty close together"? I'm assuming you mean that between high and low hit ratings, you're still hitting a whole lot? Hit - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft shows that with just 98 hit, you will still only miss 5% of all attacks, which isn't bad I suppose.

So perhaps it's true that crit would be worth twice as much as hit... maybe even haste at 8x. If you're dealing 4k damage with 95/100 hits, it must be better than dealing 1k damage with 100/100 hits. Obviously those number of hits will be reduced according to expertise and glancing blows... and the 100% hit would mean better proc uptime.

Very interesting.

tripp6sic6 · 11/16/09, 5:15 PM

Are there any plans to add back in Trinket EP values?

Afabar · 11/23/09, 11:55 AM

1.1.8.1 Release notes
* Razorice is now stacking and won't give 10% frost damage at the start of the simulation.
* EP Value for trinkets are back.
* Scourge Strike Magical part: (additive bonus, not multiplicative)
* Racials included (Expertise bonus, Blood Fury + pet damage bonus, Troll Berzerker, Arcane Torrent)
* New GoD behavior if patch 3.3 option is checked
* Some premade talent template.

Kahorie's DK Simulator 1.1.8.1

Larisroth · 11/23/09, 10:23 PM

The racials should be good.

The new GoD behaviour doesn't appear to be working correctly, at least if used in a rotation, as my diseases are hitting for constant values.

Using EmpoweredRuneWeapon in my intro sequence appears to only work some of the time, especially when I'm trying to do long sequences.

Also the latest source doesn't appear to be checked in to the subversion repository.

Tikiman49 · 11/25/09, 10:48 PM

Hey Kahorie, love the sim... use it all the time and recommend it to anyone asking questions.

I used to use EnhSim a lot for my shaman, and loved the feature that gave an output link that could directly be copied into Pawn, lootrank, etc. With the recent graphical overhaul, could you perhaps consider adding a line on the EP output report for stat links, maybe even customizable? I looked through the XML files but none of it seems doable by me.

Mainly something for Pawn would be the best, as that's what many people use the EP values for (it's even recommended in the thread!). I'm sure your aware, but for redundancy's sake, it takes in a configured string that is pasted into the wow client itself, a la:
( Pawn: v1: "DPS": ArmorPenetration=2.09, RedSocket=52.4, CritRating=2.09, Dps=11.74, Strength=2.61, MetaSocket=23, Agility=1.39, HitRating=0.17, BlueSocket=52.4, YellowSocket=52.4, HasteRating=2, Ap=1, GemQualityLevel=82 )

Thanks for considering!

Niightblade · 12/04/09, 10:39 PM

Has anyone managed to get an Unholy AOE rotation working in 1.1.8.1? I can't even get D&D to show up in the results.

kelben · 12/05/09, 5:44 AM

The lastest version crashes everytime I hit the sim button, is there some kind of error/debugging report I can provide you? It just says program has stop working, trying to find solution.

Edit: Apparently, you now have to select an intro for the program to work.

Afabar · 12/08/09, 12:00 PM

1.1.8.2 Release notes
* Correction on Dark Matter trinket.
* Removal of 3.2 specific code.
* Correction on ghoul not reseting correctly from a Master of ghoul spec to another.
* Correction on GoDisease not recalculating damage correctly.

Kahorie's DK Simulator 1.1.8.2.zip

Sorry for not giving a lot of feedback recently, but my professional activities are taking me lot of time.

Alatyr · 12/08/09, 8:13 PM

Glyph of Icy Touch II currently has no effect.

Thanks for your work on this, Kahorie.

Zomlol · 12/10/09, 10:29 AM

ignore

dr_AllCOM3 · 12/10/09, 10:12 PM

1.1.8.3 Release notes
* Scourge Strike magical part can't crit anymore.

Aliocha · 12/10/09, 11:28 PM

Hi, I have a little request : could you please add the T9 Tank 2-Pieces Bonus to the Character Editor? (Increases Blood Strike and Heart Strike damage by 5%).

Thanks in advance.

Lyssa · 12/11/09, 4:01 AM

Is there any possibility of adding some of the Icecrown procs, such as the rep ring or Bryntroll? I got the latter in the raid on Wednesday and have been trying to do some testing and figure out exactly what the proc is worth. I can post some logs and numbers if it helps/is in your interest to add it.

GravityDK · 12/11/09, 5:32 AM

Hi guys.
confirming Icy Touch II does not work in 1.1.8.3, as the Icy Touch is now doing that job.

Also, Rune Strike is not showing up in the application's report. I don't see "RS" in the output text combat log either.

Ability| Total| %| Landed| Hit%| Crit%| Miss%| Average| TPS|
ScourgeStrike| 175727196| 16.6| 100782| 75.8| 16.5| 7.7| 1743.6| 674.8|
MainHand| 163694256| 15.4| 99164| 80.6| 11.7| 7.7| 1650.7| 628.6|
FrostFever| 132113489| 12.5| 164560| 100| 0| 0| 802.8| 507.3|
ScourgeStrikeMagical| 131728994| 12.4| 100782| 100| 0| 0| 1307.1| 505.8|
BloodPlague| 105134413| 9.9| 164502| 100| 0| 0| 639.1| 403.7|
DeathCoil| 83243837| 7.9| 43227| 89.4| 2.6| 8| 1925.7| 319.6|
Necrosis| 65043863| 6.1| 170967| 100| 0| 0| 380.4| 249.8|
BloodCakedBlade| 53998780| 5.1| 47476| 92.2| 0| 7.8| 1137.4| 207.3|
BloodStrike| 53838766| 5.1| 38586| 81.2| 11| 7.8| 1395.3| 206.7|
PlagueStrike| 39938115| 3.8| 25524| 75.8| 16.6| 7.6| 1564.7| 153.4|
IcyTouch| 33296617| 3.1| 27640| 89| 2.8| 8.2| 1204.7| 127.9|
Ghoul| 13198646| 1.2| 114121| 88.9| 10.1| 1| 115.7|
WanderingPlague| 9111471 | 0.9| 37929| 92.4| 0| 7.6| 240.2| 35|
Horn| 0 | 0| 12683| 100| 0| 0| 0| 0|
BoneShield| 0 | 0| 7961| 100| 0| 0| 0| 0|
BloodTap| 0 | 0| 7961| 100| 0| 0| 0| 0|
DPS 1963

Fugazor · 12/12/09, 8:29 AM

Is it possible to NOT have EP calculation (?) bars on top of everything? Kinda annoying when you want to do something else while it is calculating and you have those multiple bars on the way.

Solstheim · 12/12/09, 6:32 PM

Hello everyone. This is my first post here. I'm trying to run some simulations but always i got that error:
Opis(Description):
Stopped working

Podpis problemu:
Nazwa zdarzenia problemu(Event type): CLR20r3
P 01: kahorie's dk simulator.exe
P 02: 1.1.8.3
P03: 4b21a940
P 04: mscorlib
P 05: 2.0.0.0
P 06: 48ead7c2
P 07: 343f
P 08: 119
P 09: System.IO.DirectoryNotFound
Wersja systemu operacyjnego(OS version): 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
Identyfikator ustawień regionalnych(Id regional preferences): 1045
i'm using Vista 64 , SP1 always got that Error with Net framework 2.0/3.0/3.5. So is that possible to run simulator on 64bit OS?
If yes, anyone got solution for this problem?
Regards Solstheim
EDIT: i'm from poland, so i got OS in polish language, that's why i add english translation in (). I'm not sure they are good, but i think they are.

dr_AllCOM3 · 12/12/09, 7:07 PM

That error message doesn't help at all. It's most likely not something we are responsible for.

Solstheim · 12/13/09, 8:47 AM

Hmm i dont get any other Error , so noone can help me:<.
Maybe it's impossible to run it on 64bit Vista?
Anyone here don't have problem with simulator on 64bit vista?

nerdfuel · 12/13/09, 9:10 AM

Originally Posted by Solstheim

Hmm i dont get any other Error , so noone can help me:<.
Maybe it's impossible to run it on 64bit Vista?
Anyone here don't have problem with simulator on 64bit vista?

The only issue I have with the sim is that it sometimes copies my character settings over my talents. I don't think this happens anymore or as often as it did when the 3.3 version was released.

j0nny118 · 12/13/09, 2:01 PM

I run Vista x64 and it just crashes for me everytime i try to run it

Dardalios · 12/13/09, 2:45 PM

It was crashing on me as well, and i run 64 bit, but in order to fix it(at least my problem) was to extract the zip in your (x86) program files and run it as admin, which cleared all of my errors.

Sebu63 · 12/14/09, 1:48 AM

if "Intro" is empty than the sim crashes when i hit the "start simlator" button.
maybe you could change the sim, that nointro.xml is the default setting.

dr_AllCOM3 · 12/14/09, 8:52 AM

Originally Posted by Sebu63

if "Intro" is empty than the sim crashes when i hit the "start simlator" button.
maybe you could change the sim, that nointro.xml is the default setting.

It doesn't crash when I use it. Download it again and try the standard files provided.

Lamperouqe · 12/15/09, 2:03 AM

If I'm not mistaken my weapon speed value used to be a value for 0.1 speed, now it says:
WeaponSpeed | 196,72

So I'm kind of confused, what does that mean? Is it still 0.1 weapon speed, or how should I calculate it?
Increasing my weapon speed by 0.1 and then simming dps gave me a 12 dps increase, but I have no idea how to get it out of that number.

Also it would be nice to get some of the new trinkets in when the math is done, just to see if there is a potential replacement for greatness.

Afabar · 12/15/09, 6:02 AM

- Weapon speed EP value is for 1 second increase. Which means for your EP, 0.1 speed is equal to 19 AP.
- I will include new proc and trinket as soon as I have accurate information on it and that my time permit it.
- Concerning Vista x64 issues, unfortunately I don't have this OS so my knowledge on it is very limited.
- I'm still looking for a way to display the progress bar in a better fashion.
- Rune Strike and D&D no longer appear in the report. It will be corrected in the next release that I'm working on.