Do disease applications still proc anything else?

Racial expertise still doesn't work properly.

I'm not sure on the exact proc rates of some things and what previously would proc off of debuff application. I can only assume you are referring to things like FC and maybe trinkets?

After taking a quick glance at the logs I previously posted, I do see a staggering 30% difference in FC uptime in favor of pre-patch. So its a possibility I suppose, but I don't have the time right this minute to look into it further.

ArPen just overtook strength on my latest EP run. I only have 566 ArPen, it seems a little early for this to be happening? I'm using the standard unholy single target reaping spec with 2 points from dark conviction shifted into morbidity. I'm using a 2 runeset disease twisting rotation for the sim, but if anything this should favor strength more. Could there be a bug in the sim? Possibly with long rotations? Here are the associated outputs >>

Spec used.

Rotation:

<Rotation>

<Rotation>

<PlagueStrike retry="1" />

<IcyTouch retry="1" />

<BloodStrike retry="1" />

<BloodStrike retry="1" />

<ScourgeStrike retry="1" />

<DeathCoil retry="0" />

<DeathCoil retry="0" />

<ScourgeStrike retry="1" />

<DeathCoil retry="0" />

<ScourgeStrike retry="1" />

<ScourgeStrike retry="1" />

<DeathCoil retry="0" />

<IcyTouch retry="1" />

<PlagueStrike retry="1" />

<BloodStrike retry="1" />

<BloodStrike retry="1" />

<ScourgeStrike retry="1" />

<DeathCoil retry="0" />

<DeathCoil retry="0" />

<ScourgeStrike retry="1" />

<DeathCoil retry="0" />

<ScourgeStrike retry="1" />

<ScourgeStrike retry="1" />

<DeathCoil retry="0" />

</Rotation>

</Rotation>

Ability	Damage done				hits			Crits			Misses		Uptime
	Total	%	#	Avg	#	%	Avg	#	%	Avg	#	%	%
ScourgeStrike	878393014	23.8	71784	12236.6	36168	50.3	7269.6	35616	49.6	17280.6	88	.1
MainHand	666294230	18	122150	5454.7	80153	65.5	3588	41997	34.3	9017.5	251	.2
DeathCoil	399157956	10.8	58444	6829.8	37527	64.2	4948.3	20917	35.8	10205.2
Ghoul	394486606	10.7	351745	1121.5	305901	87	1002.4	45844	13	1916.1
FrostFever	255749549	6.9	116458	2196.1	116458	100							98.2	98.2
BloodPlague	214617381	5.8	116465	1842.8	116465	100							98.6	98.6
Gargoyle	183626728	5	31590	5812.8	27510	87.1	5149.3	4080	12.9	10286.9
BloodStrike	152186897	4.1	35892	4240.1	20385	56.7	2908	15507	43.1	5991.3	81	.2
Necrosis	129454770	3.5	122150	1059.8	122150	100
WanderingPlague	120431391	3.3	59668	2018.4	59668	100
BloodCakedBlade	109653518	3	36691	2988.6	36691	99.8	2988.6				90	.2
PlagueStrike	88096543	2.4	17946	4909	10673	59.3	3148.8	7273	40.4	7492.1	44	.2
IcyTouch	62593302	1.7	17946	3487.9	11488	64	2521.5	6458	36	5207
UnholyBlight	39915202	1.1	58444	683	58444	100
Horn			918		918	100
BoneShield			1196		1196	100
BloodTap			54		54	100
AshenBand			6243		6243	100							17.3
DeathChoice			7549		7549	100							31.5
DeathChoiceHeroic			7549		7549	100							31.5
MHFallenCrusader			35121		35121	100							87
DPS	10263
Total Damage	3694.66m	in 100h
Threat Per Second	5250
Generated in	29s
Template:	3-3--unholy-reaping-single-target
Rotation:	Unholy Reaping Single Target (Disease Twisting)
Presence:	Blood
Sigil:	HangedMan
RuneEnchant:	FallenCrusader
Pet Calculation:	True

EP AttackPower	1 (0.42 DPS/per AP)
EP Strength	3.57
EP Agility	2.14
EP CritRating	3.19
EP HasteEstimated	2.86
EP HasteRating1	2.48
EP ArmorPenetrationRating	3.71
EP ExpertiseRating	2.89
BeforeMeleeHitCap<8%	5.74
EP SpellHitRating	0.72
EP WeaponDPS	11.43
EP WeaponSpeed	309.52
EP 2T9	151.28
EP 4T9	682.05
EP 2T10	543.59
EP 4T10	712.82
Template	3-3--unholy-reaping-single-target
Rotation	Unholy Reaping Single Target (Disease Twisting)
Presence	Blood
Sigil	HangedMan
RuneEnchant	FallenCrusader /
Pet Calculation	True

Expertise is working better than before, but still not functioning properly. I had no misses with 23 expertise. Also, the EP SpellHitRating and After spell hit cap are still not working.

EP SpellHitRating | 0.55
After spell hit cap | 1.11

Is it possible that these numbers are just reversed and I can assume so in the mean time?

Frostx, arp pulled ahead of strength for me at about the 550 mark also. I was wearing 2 piece t9 and 2 piece t10 with Shadow's Edge at the time. Re-gemming arp in my sockets made the stat even stronger and helped me get a 9812 dps on Festergut 10 man.

I am sure we need more people getting EP weight values, but I think that with about 550 arp and around half ICC gear arp may overtake strength as a stat for blood. Of course every individual must do his own calculations to find the exact tipping point.

Edit: Just noticed you are unholy. Every time I run an unholy build with my gear, both before and after I re-gemmed arp, strength was way ahead of arp.

Hello,

I'm new at using this tool and there is something that I don't understand :

"2) Edit each main stats according to your own character screen. Take into account that you have to take unbuffed character and without talent."

> Does that mean that I have to respe each time I win a new loot, to run the tool untalented ??

Sorry for this very newb and naive question but I didnt manage to understand this point :p


Another question : there is no option for the new ring "Ashen band of endless might", is it normal ? Perhaps I didnt look right ?

Thanks for your patience

@Nanabee

The ring is there, just look at the lower right of the character edit screen.

As for your first question, when it says "unbuffed and untalented" what it means is make sure you have 0 buffs on when you are looking at your stats to input. Also, if any of your talents affect your stats (e.g. Ravenous Dead) make sure to edit them appropriately. The OP shows how to do this (for the above case, just take your Strength and divide by 1.03, and that new number is what you input into the sim for Strength). You do not need to respec in order to input your stats, just understand that when you run the sim, it takes into account your talents, as well as your stats, to come up with your DPS meaning if you hadn't edited your Strength as above, it would do an additional 3% on top of that number (which already includes the 3% from talents).

Thanks for your answer

I've tried to find where it shows how to do this, I wanna be sure not to forget anything... and I didnt (how amazing ><).
I admit I didnt read the full thread, I just can't find the time to do this

A friend told me that some soft could help me : a tool that will extract your character from armory and calculate your base stats from it, but he couldn't remember the name of this soft. What could it be ?

Thank you very much for your help.

I think you may be referring to Tattashe's Armory Grabber for Kahorie's DK Simulator but I'm not 100% sure. Also I don't really know how to use it, but I've seen it thrown around from time to time.

Edit: I feel dumb saying I didn't know how to use the armory grabber; its very simple :P I just hadn't looked at it at that point in time and I didn't want to mislead anyone.

Thanks, but it is not this tool - which seems to simply copy the numbers from my armory : there is a lot of stuff too complicate for me, but copying numbers, that I can do :p

The problem is still the same : understanding how to correct the stats if they need to be untalented. There is a lot of stats modified by my talent tree, especially crits numbers, and that's not simple for me. I still can't find where "the OP shows how to do this", and even if I find it, I think it will be too much pain to calculate all that stuff for any new loot I got.

The warcrafter could be a good option : it extracts my char from armory and I can then reset the talents, although some stats seem to be missing (haste rating for example).

Why does it seem obvious to everyone ? Do you all guys just recalculate all your stats UNTALENTED each time you got a new loot ? :/

Thank you very much !

I was wondering if the new Bryntroll proc nerf is already considered in the newest version of the simulator. Mainly need to know about HC Bryntroll since its dropped from the first boss and kinda easy to get.

Bryntroll is simulated higher than what is reported in game. I have to found out where is the issue.

It was recently fixed to not proc off of BCB or disease application (ie, pestilence on adds, etc.). I'm not sure if that is currently used in your calculations or not.

Test version with the latest PTR 3.3.3 changes, if you want to play around:
zSHARE - Kahorie_s DK Simulator PTR 3.3.3.zip

1.2.0.8 Release notes
* Bryntroll normal/heroic should now be accurate.
* Racial Expertise finally corrected.
* A new EP value: Personal Expertise; Give you the expertise value regarding your actual Expertise.
* DPS Variance apears if Multiple fight is selected.
* Patch 3.3.3 - Check the box on the main screen to enable them:
- Rune of Razorice: Now stacks 5 stacks of 2% Frost Vulnerability instead of 10 stacks of 1% Frost Vulnerability. Proc chance changed to 100%.
- Endless Winter: No longer causes Frost Fever to be applied by Chains of Ice, but instead grants 2/4% strength.
- Nerves of Cold Steel: Now increases off-hand damage by 8/16/25%, up from 5/10/15%.
- Unbreakable Armor: The amount of strength granted is now 20%, up from 10%.
- Glyph of Obliterate increased to 25%, up from 20%
- Scourge Strike: Now deals 70% weapon damage, plus 12% of physical damage done as shadow damage for each of the death knight's diseases on the targe

Kahorie's DK simulator 1.2.0.8

Just a small thing, if you try simming DW frost, and place Razorice on the main hand, the simulator will crash when you start the simulation.

Actually this glyph was not changed. Only the tooltip was changed in order to more accurately represent multiplicative vs additive values.

1.2.0.9 Release notes
* Glyph of Obliterate back to 20% on patch mode.
* Razorice in Main hand should not crash the sim.


Kahorie's DK Simulator 1.2.0.9

I did a search of the thread and didn't turn it up so thought I would ask. I don't see an option for Fury of the Five Flights. Am I missing or is it too hard to model?

Or too easy. Add 320 AP to your character.