Kahorie's DK simulator 2.0 Beta - Including Cataclysm. - Page 43

Afabar · 12/16/09, 4:29 PM

I have just forgot to update the label. If the new trinkets are available in the character editor, it's ok.

Aegra · 12/16/09, 6:41 PM

Could anyone help me out with how the rotation and priority systems work? I'd like to edit them and try a few things out, but I'm a bit confused.

For example, what's the difference between retry=0 and retry=1 on an ability?

Other than that, it seems fairly straight forward - for a priority, simply list in descending order of priority (IE diseases at top, then other stuff, generally). For a rotation, it would just go down the entire list until it hits the end then start over at the beginning, correct?

I did look at the readme and checked this thread, apologies if I missed an explanation buried somewhere =P

Yotka · 12/16/09, 7:29 PM

Originally Posted by Afabar

1.1.8.4 Release notes
* Removal of Glyph of Icy Touch II.
* Bone Shield Precast when Many Fight option is checked.
* 2 pieces T9 and T10 bonus implemented.
* Death and Decay / Rune strike are back in the report/DPS summary.
* 3.3 Trinkets implemented (Whispering Fanged Skull, Deathbringers Will, Needle-Encrusted Scorpion)
* EP Value show DPS per AP.
* Proc code optimization for better performance.

Kahorie's DK Simulator 1.1.8.4.zip

Merci.

Would you mind adding Nevermelting Ice crystal to the list of trinkets? It increases AoE damage output for UH by a VERY large margin even if it is "a caster trinket".

Daellia · 12/17/09, 12:47 AM

Any chance of adding Bryntroll's proc to the list of Weapon Procs for the sim? All of my data on it is listed in the Unholy thread, though I can copy it over here as well, if you'd like.

GravityDK · 12/17/09, 6:08 PM

For a tank, I just ran two EP sims using tank settings of 30% avoidance then 50% avoidance (simulating ICC), and found the weightings for Expertise were higher on the 30%. No other changes.

I can't think of any logical reason for this, since rune strike can miss but it can't be dodged/parried, so therefore suspect your code for RS when facing the boss (frost presence) has an error.

Secondly, it'd be really handy if I could get a small free-text field to type in a note, which is inserted into the Report page along with other data. Put the field on the first tab of the app. This would help me review Reports aftewards when I'm testing different glyphs or avoidance, for example, and not changing anything else in the settings.

dr_AllCOM3 · 12/17/09, 7:30 PM

There's nothing really wrong at the first glance, just maybe a 20% chance to parry versus bosses.

GravityDK · 12/17/09, 9:46 PM

OK next thing, is that Frost, dual-wield, frost presence, the simulations appear to not use Threat of Thassarian on the rune strikes. They're coming out as doing about less than half the damage of a two-handed Frost sim (with otherwise no changes). The obliterates and other strikes look good.

Exalthia · 12/18/09, 2:41 AM

Originally Posted by GravityDK

For a tank, I just ran two EP sims using tank settings of 30% avoidance then 50% avoidance (simulating ICC), and found the weightings for Expertise were higher on the 30%. No other changes.

I can't think of any logical reason for this, since rune strike can miss but it can't be dodged/parried, so therefore suspect your code for RS when facing the boss (frost presence) has an error.

There shouldn't be anything wrong. It is logical.

Lower avoidance should lead to lower RS/melee distribution ratio. That means at lower avoidance, Expertise is affecting a bigger proportion of your attack compared to at high avoidance, thus giving Expertise higher stat weight at lower avoidance.

GravityDK · 12/18/09, 6:05 AM

But only if we look at DPS, since TPS was boosted by 17%, it should have netted neutral and TPS contribution from RS would be unchanged-ish.

On separate question: does anyone have an excellent single-disease Frost priority XML they could share? I'm not confident the one I have is optimal.

the_mort · 12/18/09, 8:29 AM

If I modify the Priority System to use Horn of the Winter with my 51-0-20 build Spell Hit and Haste values turn negative every time (Simulation Time 1000h, 100ms Lag). Is this a known problem?

<Priority>
  <FrostFever />
  <BloodPlague />
  <HeartStrike />
  <DeathStrike />
  <DeathCoil />
  <Horn />
</Priority>

<character>
  <stat>
    <Strength>2103</Strength>
    <Agility>206</Agility>
    <Intel>55</Intel>
    <Armor>14896</Armor>
    <AttackPower>662</AttackPower>
    <HitRating>263</HitRating>
    <CritRating>883</CritRating>
    <HasteRating>119</HasteRating>
    <ArmorPenetrationRating>495</ArmorPenetrationRating>
    <ExpertiseRating>126</ExpertiseRating>
  </stat>
  <weapon>
    <count>1</count>
    <mainhand>
      <dps>255.7</dps>
      <speed>3.6</speed>
    </mainhand>
    <offhand>
      <dps>0</dps>
      <speed>0</speed>
    </offhand>
  </weapon>
  <Set>
    <T102PDPS>0</T102PDPS>
    <T102PTNK>0</T102PTNK>
    <T104PDPS>0</T104PDPS>
    <T72PDPS>0</T72PDPS>
    <T72PTNK>0</T72PTNK>
    <T74PDPS>0</T74PDPS>
    <T74PTNK>0</T74PTNK>
    <T82PDPS>0</T82PDPS>
    <T82PTNK>0</T82PTNK>
    <T84PDPS>0</T84PDPS>
    <T84PTNK>0</T84PTNK>
    <T92PDPS>1</T92PDPS>
    <T92PTNK>0</T92PTNK>
    <T94PDPS>1</T94PDPS>
  </Set>
  <trinket>
    <Bandit>0</Bandit>
    <BitterAnguish>0</BitterAnguish>
    <Comet>0</Comet>
    <DarkMatter>0</DarkMatter>
    <DCDeath>0</DCDeath>
    <DeathbringersWill>0</DeathbringersWill>
    <DeathbringersWillHeroic>0</DeathbringersWillHeroic>
    <DeathChoice>1</DeathChoice>
    <DeathChoiceHeroic>0</DeathChoiceHeroic>
    <Greatness>0</Greatness>
    <GrimToll>0</GrimToll>
    <Mirror>0</Mirror>
    <MjolnirRunestone>1</MjolnirRunestone>
    <Necromantic>0</Necromantic>
    <NeedleEncrustedScorpion>0</NeedleEncrustedScorpion>
    <OldGod>0</OldGod>
    <Pyrite>0</Pyrite>
    <Victory>0</Victory>
    <WhisperingFangedSkull>0</WhisperingFangedSkull>
  </trinket>
  <WeaponProc>
    <MHEmpoweredDeathbringer>0</MHEmpoweredDeathbringer>
    <MHRagingDeathbringer>0</MHRagingDeathbringer>
    <MHSingedViskag>0</MHSingedViskag>
    <MHtemperedViskag>0</MHtemperedViskag>
    <OHEmpoweredDeathbringer>0</OHEmpoweredDeathbringer>
    <OHRagingDeathbringer>0</OHRagingDeathbringer>
    <OHSingedViskag>0</OHSingedViskag>
    <OHtemperedViskag>0</OHtemperedViskag>
  </WeaponProc>
  <misc>
    <HandMountedPyroRocket>False</HandMountedPyroRocket>
    <ChaoticSkyflareDiamond>True</ChaoticSkyflareDiamond>
    <TailorEnchant>False</TailorEnchant>
  </misc>
  <racials>
    <MHExpertiseBonus>0</MHExpertiseBonus>
    <OHExpertiseBonus>0</OHExpertiseBonus>
    <Orc>False</Orc>
    <Troll>False</Troll>
    <BloodElf>False</BloodElf>
  </racials>
</character>

<Talents>
  <Butchery>2</Butchery>
  <Subversion>3</Subversion>
  <BladeBarrier>0</BladeBarrier>
  <BladedArmor>5</BladedArmor>
  <ScentOfBlood>0</ScentOfBlood>
  <Weapspec>2</Weapspec>
  <RuneTap>0</RuneTap>
  <Darkconv>5</Darkconv>
  <DRM>3</DRM>
  <IRuneTap>0</IRuneTap>
  <SpellDeflection>0</SpellDeflection>
  <Vendetta>0</Vendetta>
  <BloodyStrikes>3</BloodyStrikes>
  <Vot3W>3</Vot3W>
  <MarkBlood>0</MarkBlood>
  <BloodyVengeance>3</BloodyVengeance>
  <AbominationMight>2</AbominationMight>
  <BloodWorms>3</BloodWorms>
  <Hysteria>1</Hysteria>
  <IBloodPresence>1</IBloodPresence>
  <ImprovedDeathStrike>2</ImprovedDeathStrike>
  <SuddenDoom>3</SuddenDoom>
  <Vampiric>0</Vampiric>
  <WillNecropolis>0</WillNecropolis>
  <HeartStrike>1</HeartStrike>
  <MightofMograine>3</MightofMograine>
  <BloodGorged>5</BloodGorged>
  <DRW>1</DRW>
  <ImprovedIcyTouch>0</ImprovedIcyTouch>
  <RPM>0</RPM>
  <Toughness>0</Toughness>
  <IcyReach>0</IcyReach>
  <BlackIce>0</BlackIce>
  <NervesofColdSteel>0</NervesofColdSteel>
  <IcyTalons>0</IcyTalons>
  <LichBorne>0</LichBorne>
  <Annihilation>0</Annihilation>
  <KillingMachine>0</KillingMachine>
  <ChillOfTheGrave>0</ChillOfTheGrave>
  <EndlessWinter>0</EndlessWinter>
  <Frigid>0</Frigid>
  <GlacierRot>0</GlacierRot>
  <Deathchill>0</Deathchill>
  <ImprovedIcyTalons>0</ImprovedIcyTalons>
  <MercilessCombat>0</MercilessCombat>
  <Rime>0</Rime>
  <ChillBlains>0</ChillBlains>
  <HungeringCold>0</HungeringCold>
  <IFrostPresence>0</IFrostPresence>
  <ThreatOfThassarian>0</ThreatOfThassarian>
  <BloodoftheNorth>0</BloodoftheNorth>
  <UnbreakableArmor>0</UnbreakableArmor>
  <Acclimatation>0</Acclimatation>
  <FrostStrike>0</FrostStrike>
  <GuileOfGorefiend>0</GuileOfGorefiend>
  <TundraStalker>0</TundraStalker>
  <HowlingBlast>0</HowlingBlast>
  <ViciousStrikes>2</ViciousStrikes>
  <Virulence>3</Virulence>
  <Anticipation>0</Anticipation>
  <Epidemic>2</Epidemic>
  <Morbidity>2</Morbidity>
  <UnholyCommand>0</UnholyCommand>
  <RavenousDead>3</RavenousDead>
  <Outbreak>0</Outbreak>
  <Necrosis>5</Necrosis>
  <CorpseExplosion>0</CorpseExplosion>
  <PaleHorse>0</PaleHorse>
  <BloodCakedBlade>3</BloodCakedBlade>
  <NightoftheDead>0</NightoftheDead>
  <UnholyBlight>0</UnholyBlight>
  <Impurity>0</Impurity>
  <Dirge>0</Dirge>
  <Desecration>0</Desecration>
  <MagicSuppression>0</MagicSuppression>
  <Reaping>0</Reaping>
  <MasterOfGhouls>0</MasterOfGhouls>
  <Desolation>0</Desolation>
  <AMZ>0</AMZ>
  <ImprovedUnholyPresence>0</ImprovedUnholyPresence>
  <GhoulFrenzy>0</GhoulFrenzy>
  <CryptFever>0</CryptFever>
  <BoneShield>0</BoneShield>
  <WanderingPlague>0</WanderingPlague>
  <EbonPlaguebringer>0</EbonPlaguebringer>
  <ScourgeStrike>0</ScourgeStrike>
  <RageofRivendare>0</RageofRivendare>
  <SummonGargoyle>0</SummonGargoyle>
  <Glyphs>
    <BloodStrike>0</BloodStrike>
    <DarkDeath>0</DarkDeath>
    <IcyTouchII>0</IcyTouchII>
    <DeathStrike>1</DeathStrike>
    <FrostStrike>0</FrostStrike>
    <HowlingBlast>0</HowlingBlast>
    <IcyTouch>0</IcyTouch>
    <Obliterate>0</Obliterate>
    <PlagueStrike>0</PlagueStrike>
    <ScourgeStrike>0</ScourgeStrike>
    <UnholyBlight>0</UnholyBlight>
    <Ghoul>0</Ghoul>
    <DeathandDecay>0</DeathandDecay>
    <DRW>1</DRW>
    <Disease>1</Disease>
    <RuneStrike>0</RuneStrike>
    <BoneShield>0</BoneShield>
  </Glyphs>
</Talents>

Exalthia · 12/18/09, 8:47 AM

Originally Posted by GravityDK

But only if we look at DPS, since TPS was boosted by 17%, it should have netted neutral and TPS contribution from RS would be unchanged-ish.

I think you're confusing the simulator and Chill of the Throne a little bit. You're trying to compare high-avoidance, old Rune Strike (3.2) threat against low-avoidance, new Rune Strike (3.3) threat. That comparison does not exist in the simulator, nor do I think it serves any practical purpose anyway. The 2 cases you mentioned are comparing high-avoidance, new rune Strike against low-avoidance, new Rune Strike - this is what the simulator does.

Rune Strike threat is boosted by 17% regardless of whether you're affected by Chill of the Throne or not. I could be wrong, but I don't recall the patch notes saying the threat increase is only effective in Icecrown Citadel.

Stigulus · 12/19/09, 8:09 AM

I have just downloaded this and started playing with it. One noob question I DO have though is, is there a means to import your current character directly from the armoury?

Bllets · 12/19/09, 8:24 AM

Originally Posted by Stigulus

I have just downloaded this and started playing with it. One noob question I DO have though is, is there a means to import your current character directly from the armoury?

To my knowledge there isn't. However I'm currently working on one on my website.

What currently isn't working is:
-DPS and speed of weapon(s) equipped
-Tailor enchant on back
-Tanking Set bonusses
-Russian and TW.

It is useable to some extend now, you just have to manually insert the weapon dps and speed in Kahorie's DK simulator.

Which is done like this:
1. Pick US/EU, write realm and then your characters name
2. Press "Save XML"
3. Save in "Kahorie's DK Simulator 1.1.x.x\Characters\"
4. Pick your saved XML under Characters and then press "Edit"
5. Write speed and dps of your weapon(s). Your weapon(s) are linked on the site for easy access to the numbers.

Edit:
Afabar and dr_AllCOM3 does NOT offer support for this. Any questions or things related to this, should be either send to me in a PM or through the E-mail on the site itself.

Sebu63 · 12/21/09, 1:50 AM

I think the Simulation does something wrong with Pestilence.

I compared 2 reports.

First one 10 second rotation with Pestilence.
Ability Total % Landed Hit% Crit% Miss% Average
MainHand 55219030 18,7 13012 61,9 38,1 0 4243,7
Ghoul 33608286 11,4 32443 87,2 12,8 0 1035,9
ScourgeStrikeMagical 31830444 10,8 7176 100 0 0 4435,7
ScourgeStrike 31464078 10,6 7176 46,8 53,2 0 4384,6
DeathCoil 29361730 9,9 5700 60,1 38,7 1,2 5151,2
BloodPlague 25269492 8,5 11999 61,6 38,4 0 2106
FrostFever 21559447 7,3 11999 100 0 0 1796,8
WanderingPlague 17946476 6,1 9148 98,8 0 1,2 1961,8
Gargoyle 14894604 5 3371 86,5 12,4 1,1 4418,5
BloodStrike 11991419 4,1 3470 52,2 47,8 0 3455,7
Necrosis 11042343 3,7 13012 100 0 0 848,6
BloodCakedBlade 8766783 3 3862 100 0 0 2270
UnholyBlight 2936361 1 5700 100 0 0 515,2
PlagueStrike 6766 0 2 50 50 0 3383
IcyTouch 5444 0 2 50 50 0 2722
Horn 0 0 1340 100 0 0 0
Pestilence 0 0 3587 98,8 0 1,2 0
BoneShield 0 0 119 100 0 0 0
BloodTap 0 0 119 100 0 0 0
DPS 8220
Total Damage 295,9m in 10h
Threat Per Second 3641
Generated in 5s
Template: UH_17_0_54 meine 10 sek
Rotation: UH_10_Sek_Pest
Presence: Blood
Sigil: Virulence
RuneEnchant: FallenCrusader
Pet Calculation: True

Second one 20 second rotation wit IT+PS.
Ability Total % Landed Hit% Crit% Miss% Average
MainHand 55450737 18,7 13012 61,9 38,1 0 4261,5
Ghoul 33828463 11,4 32443 87,2 12,8 0 1042,7
DeathCoil 27529198 9,3 5098 60,2 38,6 1,2 5400
BloodStrike 24449896 8,2 7021 51,9 48,1 0 3482,4
ScourgeStrikeMagical 23873417 8 5355 100 0 0 4458,2
ScourgeStrike 23599382 7,9 5355 46,7 53,3 0 4407
BloodPlague 22801308 7,7 10803 62,1 37,9 0 2110,6
FrostFever 19460032 6,6 10810 100 0 0 1800,2
WanderingPlague 16046670 5,4 8173 98,7 0 1,3 1963,4
Gargoyle 14847910 5 3336 86,6 12,5 0,9 4450,8
Necrosis 11088831 3,7 13012 100 0 0 852,2
BloodCakedBlade 8792246 3 3862 100 0 0 2276,6
PlagueStrike 7084863 2,4 1786 55,4 44,6 0 3966,9
IcyTouch 5290784 1,8 1785 61,2 38,1 0,7 2964
UnholyBlight 2752459 0,9 5098 100 0 0 539,9
Horn 0 0 7 100 0 0 0
BoneShield 0 0 119 100 0 0 0
BloodTap 0 0 114 100 0 0 0
DPS 8247
Total Damage 296,9m in 10h
Threat Per Second 3783
Generated in 4s
Template: UH 17 0 54 EJ ohne Reaping
Rotation: UH EJ ohne Reaping
Presence: Blood
Sigil: Virulence
RuneEnchant: FallenCrusader
Pet Calculation: True

I expected the first one would do 2-4% less damage than the second one.
But the difference was only 27dps, 0,3%.

Both Simulations run 10 h or 36000 sec.
The first one with Pestilence has 11999 BloodPalgue and Frostfever ticks.
More than I expected.

The second one with IT+PS has 10803 BloodPalgue and FrostFever ticks.
6 ticks every 20 seconds as expected.
36000 / 20 *18 /3 = 10800 ticks

It seems that the Simulation doesn’t reset the 3 second tick timer when Pestilence refreshes BloodPlague and FrostFever.

First I thought, great, a 10 second Rotation isn’t that bad.
Than I did some tests at the Target Dummy.

10 second rotation (Pestilence hit 2 targets)
sec BloodPlague ticks
300 180
600 361

So Pestilence does it the same way as IT+PS.
Could you please correct that in the Simulation.
(Or am I wrong ?)

Malcophant · 12/21/09, 2:01 AM

Glyph of disease doesn't reset the tick timers, so you will get more disease ticks using it.