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Old 04/24/10, 12:30 PM   #931
insane_machine
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Balnazzar (EU)
Thanks for the great work on this.

Just wanted to point out something I noticed. Impurity, or rather lack of it, does not seem to affect Gargoyle damage at all, which I find untrue on live at a dummy (~19% more damage with 5/5 over 0/5). Obviously this isn't of high importance since every Unholy spec has full Impurity but thought I'd mention it.

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Old 04/28/10, 10:02 PM   #932
kelben
Piston Honda
 
Draenei Death Knight
 
Ysera
Would it be possible to add a check box for tricks, I've been trying to convince my rogues its worth toss a tricks my way so I can roll disease % modifiers with GOD. I'd like some hard numbers to back it up.

Haste is the devil...

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Old 04/29/10, 1:15 AM   #933
vdgmasterx
Von Kaiser
 
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Orc Death Knight
 
Magtheridon
How would something like tricks be implemented though? Effects like tricks or hysteria vary greatly depending on when they are used, as well as how often. It would have to be something like "Percentage of Tricks Up time" or whatever.

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Old 04/29/10, 2:06 AM   #934
kelben
Piston Honda
 
Draenei Death Knight
 
Ysera
Thinking just for disease rolling, you get one tricks at the start of the fight and you roll that modifier for the fight. Its not about the the special or melee dmg you do with tricks, its about having that extra %dmg modifier on your diseases.

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Old 04/29/10, 3:36 AM   #935
Prejac
Glass Joe
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Area 52
Originally Posted by kelben View Post
Thinking just for disease rolling, you get one tricks at the start of the fight and you roll that modifier for the fight. Its not about the the special or melee dmg you do with tricks, its about having that extra %dmg modifier on your diseases.
As of 3.3 you can no longer roll diseases with maximum buffs, every time you use pestilence a snapshot of your AP is taken and applied to your diseases.

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Old 04/29/10, 4:40 AM   #936
jacaregorgo
Glass Joe
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Gorgonnash (EU)
I have a question related to Rune Strike & Tanking.
How do i have to setup the Sim to get Tank results? I wanted to check my possible TPS. I set up the Tank Options. But i still don't get any Rune Strikes in my report. Is there a flag to set somewhere?
Thx in advance.

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Old 04/29/10, 4:56 AM   #937
Shareth
Von Kaiser
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Tarren Mill (EU)
Originally Posted by Prejac View Post
As of 3.3 you can no longer roll diseases with maximum buffs, every time you use pestilence a snapshot of your AP is taken and applied to your diseases.
Tricks gives you % damage, not AP, and you can roll that. You can also roll crit or whatever else except AP. Getting support for this in sim would be nice.

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Old 04/29/10, 10:20 AM   #938
Mericet
Von Kaiser
 
Draenei Hunter
 
Kargath
Unless I'm confused about what you're asking for, there's no need to get support for rolling TOTT on diseases. Just multiply the damage done by diseases by 1.15, the modifier you get from TOTT to see how much extra damage you get out of it.

As for rolling crit, you might have had a case for it a few months ago, but with the 4t9 set bonus so far behind us, it's probably not the most important thing to get implemented.

Last edited by Mericet : 04/29/10 at 10:27 AM.

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Old 05/02/10, 7:10 PM   #939
Artazoth
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Ragnaros (EU)
There seems to be something wrong with the sim. This is my situation:

I set up everything correctly. I use 0/17/54 (sub frost) with reapingless rotation, I get the correct report (10554 dps).

Now I try it with sub blood to see which gives me the highest dps. The only two things I change now is the spec to 14/0/57 and rotation to include reaping.
The result it gives me is 4549 dps, obviously wrong.

The noticeable reason seems to be the number of SS the sim use in the sub-blood sim is much lower than it should be.
With the subfrost I get around 50k SS (100h), with the subblood I get 11k when it should've been higher due to reaping.

I've yet to figure out why this is and that's why I've asked for help. Like I said before, the only thing I change is spec and rotation. Everything is the same between the two sims.

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Old 05/02/10, 7:29 PM   #940
Shinaruh
Master of Apologies
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Mal'Ganis
Last I heard there was a bug with the unholy rotation. I always use unholy priority when using the sim and my results are most likely accurate. I would try that, it should fix the issue.

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Old 05/02/10, 7:32 PM   #941
Artazoth
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Ragnaros (EU)
Originally Posted by Shinaruh View Post
Last I heard there was a bug with the unholy rotation. I always use unholy priority when using the sim and my results are most likely accurate. I would try that, it should fix the issue.
What kind of bug is that? Because it works perfectly well with sub-frost. If I recall, it worked fine with sub-blood before too (since there was no sub-frost until the last patch).

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Old 05/02/10, 7:43 PM   #942
Shinaruh
Master of Apologies
 
Orc Death Knight
 
Mal'Ganis
Oh this was a while ago. Not 100% sure if it's relevant or not, just making a suggestion. I always use a priority and have success, so I figured I'd pass on the information.

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Old 05/04/10, 9:59 PM   #943
thundermoose
Glass Joe
 
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Tauren Death Knight
 
Burning Blade
Hi there, I was wondering if anyone would maybe help me troubleshoot something with the sim. Is there any way to get it to simulate an unbuffed target dummy run? I turned off all buffs, but the DPS it gives just seems too high for me to realistically do unbuffed for my gear level (which I also inputted). Any tips?

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Old 05/07/10, 6:56 PM   #944
keLston
Glass Joe
 
Human Death Knight
 
Eredar
Originally Posted by thundermoose View Post
Hi there, I was wondering if anyone would maybe help me troubleshoot something with the sim. Is there any way to get it to simulate an unbuffed target dummy run? I turned off all buffs, but the DPS it gives just seems too high for me to realistically do unbuffed for my gear level (which I also inputted). Any tips?
Increase the latency which also reflects your personal response time.

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Old 05/17/10, 9:11 AM   #945
sp00n
Bald Bull
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Wrathbringer (EU)
Currently, the general recommendation is to use a Unholy/Frost subspec if you have a proc weapon like [Bryntroll, the Bone Arbiter]. This seems to be correct for me as well, as I am gaining about 200 DPS by switchting from Blood to a Frost subspec.

However, as it seems a non proc weapon ([Shadow's Edge] in my case) seems to be performing even better, increasing DPS by a further 50.
(All calculation done with the a 15% ICC damage increase selected)


Is this behaviour accurate, or did I somewhere made a mistake in the simulator (see the attachements for the XML files)? My information so far was that a Frost subspec with a proc weapons should beat a non-proc weapon (even if it's non heroic?).

Armory profile, if I'm not currently logged out in tank gear.


Damage breakdown Bryntroll:
Ability Damage done    hits   Crits   Misses  Glances   Uptime
 Total % # Avg # % Avg # % Avg # Avg # % Avg %
MainHand 2779359619 21 504076 7414,3 188064 36,4 4193,1 186799 36,2 8628,6 12247 2,4 129213 25 2932,9
Ghoul 1302830330 9,9 1136427 1527,8 704869 62 1086,4 147880 13 2173,1 283678 25 760,5
ScourgeStrike 1294714424 9,8 158854 8150,3 91735 56,4 5152 67119 41,2 12248,3 3888 2,4
DeathCoil 1110235513 8,4 150972 7353,9 94305 61,8 5265,3 56667 37,1 10829,8 1619 1,1
BloodStrike 893272985 6,8 212726 4199,2 135706 62,3 3036,2 77020 35,3 6248,3 5175 2,4
FrostFever 812385600 6,2 326148 2490,8 326148 100 2490,8 98,7
ScourgeStrikeMagical 714581587 5,4 158854 4498,4 91735 57,7 2843,6 67119 42,3 6759,9
BloodPlague 683044544 5,2 327512 2085,6 327512 100 2085,6 99,2
Gargoyle 592869385 4,5 117247 5056,6 101964 86 4474,6 15283 12,9 8939,6 1249 1,1
Necrosis 540025853 4,1 504076 1071,3 504076 100
Ghoul: Claw 461380982 3,5 271543 1699,1 236342 87 1628,8 35201 13 2171,1
Bryntroll 425241662 3,2 104576 4066,3 104576 99 4066,3 1073 1
BloodCakedBlade 423101133 3,2 147523 2868 147523 97,6 2868 3593 2,4
WanderingPlague 402903328 3,1 176913 2277,4 176913 99 1855 1
PlagueStrike 281925844 2,1 55258 5102 31827 56,2 3220,2 23431 41,4 7658,1 1324 2,3
IcyTouch 255776042 1,9 54978 4652,3 34413 61,9 3336,8 20565 37 6853,6 610 1,1
Army of the Dead 121741287 ,9 783826 155,3 681888 87 153,7 101938 13 166,3
UnholyBlight 111045551 ,8 150972 735,5 150972 100
GCD Usage 700434 700434 100 98,3
Blood Rune 1 107012 107012 100 97,9
Blood Rune 2 105714 105714 100 97
Frost Rune 1 107435 107435 100 98,3
Frost Rune 2 106397 106397 100 97,4
Unholy Rune 1 107717 107717 100 98,6
Unholy Rune 2 106395 106395 100 97,4
Horn 48858 48858 100
BoneShield 3086 3086 100 85,7
DeathChoice 24686 24686 100 34,3
DeathbringersWill 12343 12343 100 33,9
FallenCrusader 105169 105169 100 77,3
MH Blood-Caked Blade 151116 151116 100
                 
Bloodlust 3086 3086 100 11,4
                 
T104PDPS 351096 351096 100 98,1
IcyTalons 54978 54978 100 97,6
Desolation 212726 212726 100 99
Virulence 134972 134972 100 97,8
AshenBand 20211 20211 100 18,5
DPS 12228(+/- 2153)                 
Total Damage 13206,44m in 300h                
Total runic power used: 6473960 (458900 wasted)                  
Threat Per Second 8348                 
Generated in 74s                 
Template: Unholy                 
Rotation: Unholy                 
Presence: Blood                 
Sigil: Virulence                 
RuneEnchant: FallenCrusader                 
Pet Calculation: True                 



Damage breakdown Shadows Edge:
Ability Damage done    hits   Crits   Misses  Glances   Uptime
 Total % # Avg # % Avg # % Avg # Avg # % Avg % 
MainHand 2922627794 22 463167 8472,2 163438 34,5 4716,7 181527 38,3 9705,1 11134 2,3 118202 24,9 3299,6
ScourgeStrike 1387186467 10,5 158867 8731,7 88406 54,3 5422,3 70461 43,3 12884 3956 2,4
Ghoul 1311262402 9,9 1136106 1537,5 704745 62 1093,4 148108 13 2186,4 283253 24,9 765,7
DeathCoil 1135530700 8,6 150968 7521,7 91097 59,7 5300,3 59871 39,3 10901,6 1546 1
BloodStrike 954595421 7,2 212692 4488,2 131385 60,3 3196,8 81307 37,3 6574,9 5131 2,4
FrostFever 817881862 6,2 326080 2508,2 326080 100 2508,2 98,7
ScourgeStrikeMagical 765689979 5,8 158867 4819,7 88406 55,6 2993,4 70461 44,4 7111,1
BloodPlague 687740130 5,2 327376 2100,8 327376 100 2100,8 99,2
Gargoyle 596493017 4,5 117200 5089,5 102053 86,2 4507,9 15147 12,8 9008 1224 1
Necrosis 567759786 4,3 463167 1225,8 463167 100
Ghoul: Claw 464337588 3,5 271543 1710 236223 87 1638,9 35320 13 2185,2
BloodCakedBlade 436510991 3,3 135301 3226,2 135301 97,6 3226,2 3294 2,4
WanderingPlague 421278490 3,2 183721 2293 183721 99 1915 1
PlagueStrike 301683829 2,3 55292 5456,2 30994 54,7 3400,4 24298 42,9 8078,5 1364 2,4
IcyTouch 261541339 2 55002 4755,1 33297 59,9 3356,2 21705 39 6901,2 615 1,1
Army of the Dead 122511964 ,9 783930 156,3 682540 87,1 154,6 101390 12,9 167,6
UnholyBlight 113543609 ,9 150968 752,1 150968 100
GCD Usage 700531 700531 100 98,3
Blood Rune 1 107016 107016 100 97,9
Blood Rune 2 105676 105676 100 97
Frost Rune 1 107460 107460 100 98,3
Frost Rune 2 106409 106409 100 97,4
Unholy Rune 1 107751 107751 100 98,6
Unholy Rune 2 106408 106408 100 97,4
Horn 48926 48926 100
BoneShield 3086 3086 100 85,7
DeathChoice 24686 24686 100 34,3
DeathbringersWill 12343 12343 100 33,9
FallenCrusader 109764 109764 100 78,9
MH Blood-Caked Blade 138595 138595 100
                 
Bloodlust 3086 3086 100 11,4
                 
T104PDPS 350985 350985 100 98
IcyTalons 55002 55002 100 97,6
Desolation 212692 212692 100 99
Virulence 134691 134691 100 97,8
AshenBand 20008 20008 100 18,3
DPS 12285(+/- 2188)                 
Total Damage 13268,18m in 300h                
Total runic power used: 6470880 (462250 wasted)                  
Threat Per Second 8384                 
Generated in 74s                 
Template: Unholy                 
Rotation: Unholy                 
Presence: Blood                 
Sigil: Virulence                 
RuneEnchant: FallenCrusader                 
Pet Calculation: True                 
Attached Files
File Type: xml Beyla-Bryntroll.xml (3.0 KB, 88 views)
File Type: xml Beyla-ShadowsEdge.xml (3.0 KB, 73 views)
File Type: xml Unholy.Frost.NoReaping.2DCs.xml (446 Bytes, 107 views)

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