Kahorie's DK simulator 2.0 Beta - Including Cataclysm. - Page 66

Feanorr · 07/06/10, 9:06 PM

Originally Posted by Sidisius

Im assuming you have 267 hit rating on your character sheet, meaning you are way over spell cap with the 3% your getting from Virulence.

we need 283-4 hit to be at the spell hit cap WITH virulence (and misery/FF)

Capstone · 07/06/10, 11:40 PM

It's 263 if you're alliance with draenei aura, 289 otherwise.

Sabrelime · 07/08/10, 7:35 PM

If your entering a frost Dk with endless winter status's in should you divide the strength value by 1.04? I was just wondering because you mention the other strength % talents but not this one.

Vajrus · 07/09/10, 11:04 AM

With Ruby Sanctum out for quite some time now, I was hoping to see the new items implemented in the simulator. Especially the trinket, I want to see how big of an upgrade it is compared to other items.
Hopeing to see a new version of best DK simulator out there

Afabar · 07/09/10, 12:26 PM

Don't worry. It will be soon out. I'm just cursing wowhead because they have changed their item list display.
I also want to annonce that this will probably the last update on the hard client. The cataclism version will be only available using the silverlight client, that is already faster in siming and I hope will be easier to support.
By the way, I'm still hungry of feedback regarding it.

mebizzle · 07/09/10, 4:36 PM

Originally Posted by Afabar

Don't worry. It will be soon out. I'm just cursing wowhead because they have changed their item list display.
I also want to annonce that this will probably the last update on the hard client. The cataclism version will be only available using the silverlight client, that is already faster in siming and I hope will be easier to support.
By the way, I'm still hungry of feedback regarding it.

The silverlight client will have all of the features of the hard client before you make it exclusive right? As it stands now I still prefer the exe version because of how incomplete the silverlight version feels (I use armory import alot, heh)

Other than the feature disparity I've found the Silverlight version to be quite nice, I was initially scared when you announced it because of how much I dislike the new version of Rawr but this one works very well.

Afabar · 07/09/10, 7:09 PM

Sadly, the main issue I have with the Silverlight version is Armory import. For security reason, Microsoft disallow getting informations from some site if the app can't get some sort of certificate. I'm trying to find a workaround. The only way right now to do it, would be for the user to go to his armory, copy the source of the displayed page and paste it in a screen of the app for computing. I know it's not very nice, but that could be a temporary band aid.

mebizzle · 07/10/10, 1:44 PM

Originally Posted by Afabar

Sadly, the main issue I have with the Silverlight version is Armory import. For security reason, Microsoft disallow getting informations from some site if the app can't get some sort of certificate. I'm trying to find a workaround. The only way right now to do it, would be for the user to go to his armory, copy the source of the displayed page and paste it in a screen of the app for computing. I know it's not very nice, but that could be a temporary band aid.

That doesn't sound terrible, in all honesty, as long as the functionality is there it works for me.

phete · 07/11/10, 6:33 AM

Originally Posted by Afabar

Sadly, the main issue I have with the Silverlight version is Armory import. For security reason, Microsoft disallow getting informations from some site if the app can't get some sort of certificate. I'm trying to find a workaround. The only way right now to do it, would be for the user to go to his armory, copy the source of the displayed page and paste it in a screen of the app for computing. I know it's not very nice, but that could be a temporary band aid.

Team Robot WoW Simulator has armory import working

I guess you could try to explicitly use the ClientHTTP stack to make the requests which doesn't have any limitations.

How to: Specify Browser or Client HTTP Handling

Afabar · 07/11/10, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by phete

Team Robot WoW Simulator has armory import working

I guess you could try to explicitly use the ClientHTTP stack to make the requests which doesn't have any limitations.

How to: Specify Browser or Client HTTP Handling

Thanks for the tip. I'll take a look at it, but I think I have already tried that thing without success.

kelben · 07/11/10, 5:16 PM

Found something interesting, I entered all the new RS items into the sim, save the trinket, and I found one interesting thing. It looks like the leather bracers are ~100 downgrade despite what DK optimize reports. I am not sure why the discrepancy. Simmed with the ICC 25% buff. And I've double, triple checked my item entries.

Boots + 271 ring from RS 10 over the 277 rep ring

DPS| 16625(+/- 3920)
Total Damage| 9874.96m | in 165h
Total runic power used: 3397740 (69635 wasted)
Threat Per Second| 11434
Generated in |49s
Template:| Unholy 00-17-54
Priority: |Unholy
Presence: |Blood

Boots + bracers

DPS| 16524(+/- 3993)
Total Damage| 9815.19m | in 165h
Total runic power used: 3409880 (58770 wasted)
Threat Per Second| 11352
Generated in |48s
Template:| Unholy 00-17-54
Priority: |Unholy
Presence: |Blood

Afabar · 07/12/10, 6:03 AM

Using the 2H-ICC pre made I get 15.891 DPS and if I replace Boots, bracers and the hand enchant: 15.999 DPS. I don't know why our results have some difference except if you forgot to change the hand enchant.

Anyway, the long awaited new version of the sim is ready for release:

1.2.1.7 Release notes
* UA GCD fix
* Rune Strike is back on frost presence.
* New: Ruby Sanctum gear.
* New: Scenario editor. This is the place where you set up fight lenght, some events like adds that pop, boss unreachable.

Kahorie's DK Simulator 1.2.1.7.zip

07/12/10 at 12:03 PM Edit:
I have updated the Item Database because it was lacking of the socket bonus on the Penumbra Pendant. You may want to re-download the package and just overwrite the file ./gearselector/itemDB.xml.

xbit · 07/14/10, 3:37 AM

Ability	Damage done				hits			Crits			Misses		Glances			Uptime
	Total	%	#	Avg	#	%	Avg	#	%	Avg	#	Avg	#	%	Avg	%
MainHand	88736856	17.4	21258	5894.2	6033	24.1	3066.9	9022	36	6307.7	3773	15.1	6203	24.8	2148.3

I'm wondering how average MainHand damage is being calculated here. It seems to me that if my average hit was 3066.9, average crit 6307.7, and average glance was 2148.3 then my average damage should be somewhere in the area of 3066.9*0.241 + 6307.7*0.36 + 2148.3*0.248 = 3542.7, though probably not exactly. The reported value of 5894.2 seems way too high. Am I misinterpreting something here?

Afabar · 07/14/10, 7:06 AM

Originally Posted by xbit

The reported value of 5894.2 seems way too high. Am I misinterpreting something here?

It looks like you are right. There average seems to omit the glances. The good news is that it's just a display issue. The overall result is still correct.

Afabar · 07/21/10, 7:40 AM

1.2.1.7 Silverlight Version Release notes
* UA GCD fix
* Rune Strike is back on frost presence.
* New: Ruby Sanctum gear.
* New: Scenario editor. This is the place where you set up fight lenght, some events like adds that pop, boss unreachable
Silverlight Specific:
* Armory Import is now working.
* Character editor reworking. Hope you like the display.
* The report is now generated also for available with Table tag for forum usage.

Kahorie's DK Simulator

Now, it's time to work on cataclysm version.