Kahorie's DK simulator 2.0 Beta - Including Cataclysm. - Page 68

Selph · 08/03/10, 2:47 PM

Sorry if this questions was already answered, but I could not find it in the thread. When I use the new silverlight version, how do I change the talents between Cataclysm, and WOTLK?

I downloaded it last night, and only saw the new 31 point talent trees.

TYVM in advance!

ToXinE · 08/04/10, 11:34 AM

Items like [Legplates of Painful Death] are incorrects showing Haste instead of Arp(92) in the items' list => the stats of the toon are wrong.

mebizzle · 08/04/10, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by ToXinE

Items like [Legplates of Painful Death] are incorrects showing Haste instead of Arp(92) in the items' list => the stats of the toon are wrong.

The sim is updated for Cataclysm, there is no ArP on them anymore and it's being replaced with haste.

hugemateria · 08/04/10, 3:03 PM

i have tried using every browser and even switched OS to run the wotlk sim with silverlight and i still cannot get the EP to generate

[edit] is there a downloadable version somewhere that i could try?

ScottR · 08/06/10, 2:21 AM

Using both the Silverlight version and the downloadable executable version 1.2.1.7, Glyph of Disease as DW frost is showing it is a dps loss over no glyph at all, and a significant one at that (Yes, I did do it with both Synch Blood Runes checked and unchecked so it's likely not something to do with that).

Using the default profile, priority, and other configuration settings:
Glyph of Icy Touch: DPS 16768(+/- 4710)

Ability	Damage done				hits			Crits			Misses		Glances			TPS	Uptime
	Total	%	#	Avg	#	%	Avg	#	%	Avg	#	Avg	#	Avg	%	%
Melee	5091091181	28	1216171	5990	293340	3009	20	556641	6178	38	245655	17	366190	2101	25	0	0
Obliterate	4257862007	24	210600	20218	92228	10848	44	118372	27518	56	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
FrostStrike	3727878200	21	212219	17566	77129	8935	36	135090	22494	64	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Necrosis	989192860	6	608086	1627	608086	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
FrostFever	920226070	5	332629	2766	332629	2766	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	100
BloodPlague	704926661	4	331304	2128	331304	2128	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	99
BloodStrike	594958071	3	75827	7846	44701	4812	59	31126	12205	41	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
HowlingBlast	474173839	3	27308	17364	5820	8674	21	21488	19718	77	606	2	0	0	0	0	0
IcyTouch	426373928	2	54764	7786	19475	4588	35	35289	9550	63	1183	2	0	0	0	0	0
BloodCakedBlade	418617225	2	121654	3441	121654	3441	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
PlagueStrike	331607219	2	54473	6088	28851	3698	53	25622	8779	47	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Army of the Dead	152676900	1	986480	155	857898	152	87	128582	171	13	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
OH Razorice	19623621	0	1161161	17	1161161	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	100

No Glyph: DPS 16626(+/- 4675)

Ability	Damage done				hits			Crits			Misses		Glances			TPS	Uptime
	Total	%	#	Avg	#	%	Avg	#	%	Avg	#	Avg	#	Avg	%	%
Melee	5091091181	28	1216171	5990	293340	3009	20	556641	6178	38	245655	17	366190	2101	25	0	0
Obliterate	4257862007	24	210600	20218	92228	10848	44	118372	27518	56	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
FrostStrike	3727878200	21	212219	17566	77129	8935	36	135090	22494	64	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Necrosis	989192860	6	608086	1627	608086	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
FrostFever	767053552	4	332629	2306	332629	2306	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	100
BloodPlague	704926661	4	331304	2128	331304	2128	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	99
BloodStrike	594958071	3	75827	7846	44701	4812	59	31126	12205	41	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
HowlingBlast	474173839	3	27308	17364	5820	8674	21	21488	19718	77	606	2	0	0	0	0	0
IcyTouch	426373928	2	54764	7786	19475	4588	35	35289	9550	63	1183	2	0	0	0	0	0
BloodCakedBlade	418617225	2	121654	3441	121654	3441	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
PlagueStrike	331607219	2	54473	6088	28851	3698	53	25622	8779	47	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Army of the Dead	152676900	1	986480	155	857898	152	87	128582	171	13	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
OH Razorice	19623621	0	1161161	17	1161161	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	100

Glyph of Disease: DPS 16041(+/- 9883)

Ability	Damage done				hits			Crits			Misses		Glances			TPS	Uptime
	Total	%	#	Avg	#	%	Avg	#	%	Avg	#	Avg	#	Avg	%	%
Melee	5034540758	29	1210759	5949	292037	2988	20	554188	6137	38	244561	17	364534	2087	25	0	0
Obliterate	4681996952	27	233162	20080	102294	10781	44	130868	27349	56	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
FrostStrike	3537675946	20	201412	17564	71242	8871	35	130170	22322	65	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Necrosis	978193779	6	605380	1616	605380	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
FrostFever	781825747	4	342563	2282	342563	2282	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	98
BloodPlague	695592130	4	329916	2108	329916	2108	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	95
HowlingBlast	513014735	3	30121	17032	6874	8599	22	23247	19525	76	680	2	0	0	0	0	0
BloodCakedBlade	409097917	2	121138	3377	121138	3377	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
BloodStrike	218948462	1	28256	7749	16526	4726	58	11730	12007	42	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
IcyTouch	171492290	1	21947	7814	6364	4320	28	15583	9241	70	461	2	0	0	0	0	0
Army of the Dead	152052403	1	986016	154	857297	152	87	128719	170	13	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
PlagueStrike	131239828	1	21853	6006	11468	3640	52	10385	8618	48	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
OH Razorice	18421270	0	1090016	17	1090016	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	100

Afabar · 08/06/10, 5:59 AM

Originally Posted by Selph

When I use the new silverlight version, how do I change the talents between Cataclysm, and WOTLK?

There is no switch for one version to another this would be too much complicated.
But the old clients are still available:
Hard Client: http://dksimulator.googlecode.com/fi...0Simulator.zip
Silverlight : SilverlightApplication1
Even if this one has some bugs that wont be corrected as I prefer to devote my time to the cataclysm version.

Originally Posted by ScottR

Using both the Silverlight version and the downloadable executable version 1.2.1.7, Glyph of Disease as DW frost is showing it is a dps loss over no glyph at all, and a significant one at that (Yes, I did do it with both Synch Blood Runes checked and unchecked so it's likely not something to do with that).

Unchecking "Synch Blood Runes" is a good idea for a GoD setup, you may also play with the BS/UA usage option. However It only vary on my computer from 13 to 18 pestilence per hour (where 12 is expected as a 6 min fight makes 12 fights in an hour). On your report there are way too many PS/IT. I don't really know why. Can you generate a combat log and post the 10 first minutes.

Originally Posted by Zeven6

1. Am I reading the results wrong?
2. Which value of expertise should I use, EP ExpertiseRating or Personal Expertise value

1. Use "Haste estimated".
2. Use "EP Expertise Rating".

liyushen · 08/08/10, 10:08 PM

Hi, Afabar. I have the same problem here.

Using the same profile, priority and configuration to simulate.
(already uncheck "Synch Blood Runes" as you suggest)

Glyph of Disease: DPS| 16824(+/- 4898)

Ability| Damage done|||| hits||| Crits||| Misses|| Glances||| Uptime|
|Total| %| #| Avg| #| %| Avg| #| %| Avg| #| Avg| #| %| Avg| %|
Melee| 1750097724| 28.9| 440616| 5641.3| 93598| 17.9| 2779.3| 216634| 41.5| 5709.4| 81118| 15.5| 130384| 25| 1941.3| |
Obliterate| 1636297270| 27| 83277| 19648.8| 31323| 37.6| 10071.4| 51954| 62.4| 25423.1| | | | | | |
FrostStrike| 1193988861| 19.7| 71973| 16589.4| 24566| 34.1| 8287.7| 47407| 65.9| 20891.3| | | | | | |
Necrosis| 340027645| 5.6| 220308| 1543.4| 220308| 100| | | | | | | | | | |
Diseases.FrostFever| 230269892| 3.8| 117978| 1951.8| 117978| 100| 1951.8| | | | | | | | | 99.9|
Diseases.BloodPlague| 225978011| 3.7| 117326| 1926.1| 117326| 100| 1926.1| | | | | | | | | 98.8|
BloodCakedBlade| 210589397| 3.5| 66200| 3181.1| 66200| 100| 3181.1| | | | | | | | | |
HowlingBlast| 123896462| 2| 9116| 13591.1| 4170| 45.5| 8018.5| 4946| 54| 18289.4| 51| .6| | | | |
Ghoul| 119800628| 2| 98925| 1831.8| 54538| 55.1| 1445.6| 10864| 11| 2495.6| | | 33523| 33.9| 413.1| |
BloodStrike| 111871541| 1.8| 14626| 7648.8| 7664| 52.4| 4423.4| 6962| 47.6| 11199.4| | | | | | |
Army of the Dead| 77879229| 1.3| 539049| 144.5| 469163| 87| 141.8| 69886| 13| 162.2| | | | | | |
IcyTouch| 14673490| .2| 2578| 5691.8| 1115| 43| 3413| 1463| 56.4| 7428.6| 14| .5| | | | |
PlagueStrike| 14500143| .2| 2561| 5661.9| 1258| 49.1| 3331| 1303| 50.9| 7912.3| | | | | | |
MH Razorice| 6640432| .1| 392925| 16.9| 392925| 100| | | | | | | | | | 99.8|

No Glyph(only use Frost strike / OB glyph, leave 3rd glyph empty): DPS| 16810(+/- 4666)

Ability| Damage done|||| hits||| Crits||| Misses|| Glances||| Uptime|
|Total| %| #| Avg| #| %| Avg| #| %| Avg| #| Avg| #| %| Avg| %|
Melee| 1752332473| 29| 439139| 5667.3| 93208| 17.9| 2794.4| 215991| 41.5| 5734| 80830| 15.5| 129940| 25| 1949.9| |
Obliterate| 1421615720| 23.5| 71456| 19895| 26878| 37.6| 10193.8| 44578| 62.4| 25744.2| | | | | | |
FrostStrike| 1185820495| 19.6| 71844| 16505.5| 25704| 35.8| 8359.2| 46140| 64.2| 21043.7| | | | | | |
Necrosis| 340462770| 5.6| 219570| 1550.6| 219570| 100| | | | | | | | | | |
Diseases.FrostFever| 228527693| 3.8| 107671| 2122.5| 107671| 100| 2122.5| | | | | | | | | 99.9|
BloodStrike| 221882196| 3.7| 29042| 7640| 15247| 52.5| 4429.3| 13795| 47.5| 11188.7| | | | | | |
Diseases.BloodPlague| 213109274| 3.5| 107173| 1988.5| 107173| 100| 1988.5| | | | | | | | | 99.2|
BloodCakedBlade| 211021887| 3.5| 65974| 3198.6| 65974| 100| 3198.6| | | | | | | | | |
IcyTouch| 132640685| 2.2| 18462| 7184.5| 6521| 35.1| 4250.1| 11941| 64.3| 8787| 117| .6| | | | |
PlagueStrike| 107915642| 1.8| 18462| 5845.3| 9172| 49.7| 3455.5| 9290| 50.3| 8204.7| | | | | | |
Ghoul| 89115481| 1.5| 70163| 1877| 39719| 56.6| 1509.6| 7759| 11.1| 2540| | | 22685| 32.3| 416.4| |
Army of the Dead| 73872800| 1.2| 528361| 139.8| 459860| 87| 137.3| 68501| 13| 156.9| | | | | | |
HowlingBlast| 66336406| 1.1| 4894| 13554.6| 2359| 47.9| 8124.6| 2535| 51.5| 18607.7| 30| .6| | | | |
MH Razorice| 6937889| .1| 410526| 16.9| 410526| 100| | | | | | | | | | 99.8|

Mitranim · 08/16/10, 1:11 AM

Current version for live (1.2.1.7) ranks troll as a superior Unholy DPS race thanks to extreme increase in Gargoyle damage due to Berserking.

However after DPSing as a troll in Unholy for some time, I've noticed that Gargoyle does not benefit from both Bloodlust and Berserking. Kahorie's sim assumes they stack properly, which I believe is wrong.

Of course there needs to be some data to back it up. Unfortunately, at the moment I have only one WoL parse that features bloodlusted Gargoyle (link; it's in Russian but you can find what you need if you are familiar with WoL). With help of a shaman, I did several dummy tests, summoning Gargoyle with and without Berserking, while under Bloodlust. All four times it did roughly 19 casts (+- 1). Of course I didn't have DBW equipped.

I believe the sim should be updated for the bug. However this evidence was enough for me to change race again, so I won't be able to get more data on this problem.

Mandrageran · 08/24/10, 4:32 PM

Hi Guys,

I've read all the info on this sim, but I'm still having trouble with 4 things.

First - how do I use the EP function? I'm not really sure I understand it.

Second - is there a way to test "next in slot" items (as opposed to BiS) other than plugging them in one by one?

Third - I only see 2 fight options - Anub and BQ. BQ doesn't seem like a great fight to sim b/c of the buff, right? I suppose I could turn it off. Are there other fights that I'm just not seeing?

Fourth - How do I use the scaling function?

Thanks all.

CrimsonVoid133 · 08/24/10, 9:19 PM

Im hoping to get some assistance on how to address this issue with Kahorie's. im getting some weird EP numbers that make no sense. my character is unholy specced and geared for unholy yet its valuing ArP like no other over every other stat; even strength by a large margin. im curious as to why this is. heres the EP:
EP AttackPower | 1 (0.95 DPS/per AP)
EP Strength | 3.18
EP Agility | 1.98
EP CritRating | 2.8
EP HasteEstimated | 3.31
EP HasteRating1 | 4.23
EP ArmorPenetrationRating | 3.33
EP ExpertiseRating | 2.96
Personal Expertise value | 4.02
BeforeMeleeHitCap<8% | 6.34
EP SpellHitRating | 1.81
EP WeaponDPS | 7.16
EP WeaponSpeed | 557.89
EP 2T9 | 166.3
EP 4T9 | 572.83
EP 2T10 | 272.83
EP 4T10 | 531.52
| Template | Unholy 00-17-54
| Rotation | Unholy-ReapingLess
| Presence | Blood
| Sigil | Virulence
| RuneEnchant | FallenCrusader /
| Pet Calculation | True
lootlink non hit caped
lootlink hit caped
Non hit caped ( Pawn: v1: "DK Sim": ArmorPenetration=3.33, HitRating=6.34, CritRating=2.8, Dps=7.16, Strength=3.18, Armor=0.028, Agility=1.98, HasteRating=3.31, Speed=557.89, ExpertiseRating=2.96, Ap=1, GemQualityLevel=82 )
hit caped ( Pawn: v1: "DK Sim": ArmorPenetration=3.33, HitRating=1.81, CritRating=2.8, Dps=7.16, Strength=3.18, Armor=0.028, Agility=1.98, HasteRating=3.31, Speed=557.89, ExpertiseRating=2.96, Ap=1, GemQualityLevel=82 )

The World of Warcraft Armory - Feld�nost @ Deathwing - Profile

Afabar · 08/25/10, 3:53 AM

I don't know what to say, I just have imported your armory, run some EP calculation and here is what I get:

EP AttackPower	1 (0,97 DPS/per AP)
EP Strength	3,07
EP Agility	1,34
EP CritRating	2,04
EP HasteEstimated	2,47
EP ArmorPenetrationRating	2,45
EP ExpertiseRating	1,41
Personal Expertise value	2,25
BeforeMeleeHitCap<8%	4,29
EP SpellHitRating	0,88
EP WeaponDPS	7,11
EP WeaponSpeed	350,52
EP 2T10	217,2
EP 4T10	394,62
Template	Unholy 00-17-54
Rotation	Unholy-ReapingLess
Presence	Blood
Sigil	Virulence

If you don't like your result, click on "Change RNG seed" sometime it helps.

Eryx · 08/25/10, 5:56 PM

Afabar,

I receive the following error on the silverlight simulator using IE (as it wasn't working with FF or Chrome):

Webpage error details

User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/4.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0)
Timestamp: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 21:52:44 UTC

Message: Unhandled Error in Silverlight Application [Xml_BadNameChar]
Arguments: /,0x2F
Debugging resource strings are unavailable. Often the key and arguments provide sufficient information to diagnose the problem. See http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?link...ml_BadNameChar at System.Xml.XmlConvert.VerifyNCName(String name, ExceptionType exceptionType)
at System.Xml.Linq.XName..ctor(XNamespace ns, String localName)
at System.Xml.Linq.XNamespace.GetName(String localName)
at System.Xml.Linq.XName.Get(String expandedName)
at DKSIMVB.Rotation.loadRotation()
at DKSIMVB.Sim.Start()
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart_Context(Object state)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state, Boolean ignoreSyncCtx)
at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.Run(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
at System.Threading.ThreadHelper.ThreadStart()
Line: 1
Char: 1
Code: 0
URI: SilverlightApplication1

I don't know if its on my end, something I've missed, or an actual issue with the coding.

Thanks for you time and devotion on keeping up with the simulator!

-Vylent
Unholy DK

Afabar · 08/25/10, 6:18 PM

There is some bug in the Rotation mode. You may try to use the priority instead.

By the way, I have updated the GUI on the cataclysm client to be more focused on the Character instead of parameters. I hope you will like it and it still fit a 800x600 screen. As noticeable changes, you can find:
- Item Reforging
- Sigil/Runeforge are selected from the main character panel.
- A beginner mode that hide all tab that may frighten the new on the sim, hiding most option
- The report is just a summary. But you can open it for more details.

DK SIM Cataclysm

The next release will include the talent masteries, some more gui update. And if time permits, I will also include the comments received from Gravity and his crew to make it also an better tool for threat analysis. Check here if you want to participate Kahorie DK sim - WTB Tank suggestions. : Addons

Arkhill · 08/29/10, 4:28 PM

Originally Posted by Afabar

As always, any feedback suggestion are always welcome. The bugs will also be accepted too but less welcome.

I plugged myself into the Silverlight version, character input from armory worked fine, but when I set up the fight specifics and hit Sim or EP value, nothing happens.

I don't have a whole lot of experience with sims, so I don't know if it's working in the background and I'm just not noticing it.

Torment · 08/31/10, 12:04 PM

Hi, Ive searched everywhere and cant seem to find an answer, but when i start to simulate on the downloaded Sim i get an error saying ''DKSIMVB has stopped working'' ive tried reinstalling it on different computers but cant seem to get it working, is there something i should be doing?
Thanks