Kahorie's DK simulator 2.0 Beta - Including Cataclysm. - Page 74

Jepson · 01/09/11, 7:29 AM

I got a bit further now

2011-01-09 13:33:37Z [WARNING] Starting sim
2011-01-09 13:33:37Z [WARNING] Loading config
2011-01-09 13:33:38Z [WARNING] Initializing object
2011-01-09 13:33:38Z [WARNING] PrePulls stuff

Previously it stopped on "Loading config".

Niightblade · 01/10/11, 6:05 AM

Bugs!

Major:

Armory import -- reforging broken, nothing imported.

Missing enchants:

Enchant Chest - Mighty Stats (+15 all stats)
Enchant Bracer - Speed (+50 haste)

Misc:

Armory import misses my 2nd cogwheel: Fractured Cogwheel (+208 Mastery Rating).
Arcanum of the Highlands is missing 35 Mastery Rating.
Rigid Cogwheel mis-named Rigid Hydraulic Pump.
Debug - Enchant editor - Add Item - causes app to disappear!

Sim stats different to armory:

Arm Sim Diff Notes
Str 4801 4540 -261 (15 from chest enchant, 246 missing)
Agi 133 109 -24 (15 from chest enchant, 9 missing)
Haste 656 606 -50 (50 from bracer enchant )
Mast 1290 1047 -243 (208 from cogwheel, 35 from arcanum?)

Afabar · 01/10/11, 7:46 AM

Thanks for the detailed report.
1) Regarding Armory, it's not possible as long as blizzard has not updated their new armory to support Xml export like the old one. For the time being, it's nearly impossible to read their bad formed html to export data so I use the old armory to extract character informations which do not have reforge data.

2) I will add the missing enchants. The "debug enchant editor" is meant do be used only by myself. I should remove it.

3) The main difference is from the Plate 5% Bonus. It's not displayed in the sim character stat but added during the sim. For the rest, I guess it's from naked stat that I may have forgot to update for lvl 85. I need to check.

bwfrazier · 01/10/11, 5:35 PM

The engineering helm is only shown as having 1 Cogwheel socket and [Fractured Cogwheel] is missing from the gem selections.

Niightblade · 01/10/11, 10:53 PM

I forgot to mention that you might want to add an additional enchantment slot to cover the random-stat items from Throne of the Four Winds.

Example:
Sky Strider Greaves Random Enchantments

DeadlyNaught · 01/11/11, 8:42 AM

I may be wrong but is there a way to use the BS socket ability in the sim to add the sockets to wrist and hands?

Also I noticed when attempting to load my toon in during a lovely tuesday morning that there seems to be gems missing from the list, I only know the ones i would use like Quick Amberjewel(40 haste)

If im wrong sorry im new to using sims

lwsplking · 01/11/11, 10:49 PM

I am still having issues with the reforge tool over valuing Hit.

I started with a blank slate, ran the debug tool, imported my toon, updated all of the Config items. Reforging as suggested by the tool resulted in Expertise coming out 10 pts lower than before reforge and hit was reforged to 10.68%. While I identified mastery as a greater stat than crit, there was one piece of gear the tool suggested reforging mastery over crit. Strange too that the reforge tool suggested a reforge of 128 exp to hit on Heart of Rage and a reforge of 128 hit to exp on License to Slay at one point. I think it pertinent to also add that I get different results each time I wipe the character data and start over, but each time Hit is 10+% while exp is close to the 781 mark.

Toon: US/Burning Blade/Onyx (Using Band of Bees in Sim rather than Cloudburst Ring of the Faultline as stats are the same -1 for each of the secondary stats)
Spec: Standard 7/31/3 DW Frost
Racial: Worgen 1% Crit
EP Values Used:
EP Strength 2.22
EP CritRating 0.54
EP MasteryRating 0.66
EP HasteRating 0.34
EP ExpertiseRating 0.96 After Expertise Soft Cap of 781: 0
Before Melee Hit Cap 0.98 After Hit Cap of 600: 0

Before Using Reforge Tool:

<stat>
    <Strength>4074</Strength>
    <Agility>123</Agility>
    <Intel>32</Intel>
    <Stamina>4832</Stamina>
    <Armor>19842</Armor>
    <SpecialArmor>0</SpecialArmor>
    <AttackPower>190</AttackPower>
    <MasteryRating>2055</MasteryRating>
    <HitRating>601</HitRating>
    <CritRating>1071</CritRating>
    <HasteRating>605</HasteRating>
    <ArmorPenetrationRating>0</ArmorPenetrationRating>
    <ExpertiseRating>784</ExpertiseRating>
</stat>
  <weapon>
    <count>2</count>
    <mainhand>
      <dps>462.3</dps>
      <speed>2.60</speed>
    </mainhand>
    <offhand>
      <dps>462.3</dps>
      <speed>2.60</speed>
    </offhand>
  </weapon>
  <Set></Set>
  <trinket>
    <LicensetoSlay>1</LicensetoSlay>
    <HeartofRage>1</HeartofRage>
  </trinket>

After Using Reforging Tool:

<stat>
    <Strength>4074</Strength>
    <Agility>123</Agility>
    <Intel>32</Intel>
    <Stamina>4832</Stamina>
    <Armor>19842</Armor>
    <SpecialArmor>0</SpecialArmor>
    <AttackPower>190</AttackPower>
    <MasteryRating>1741</MasteryRating>
    <HitRating>922</HitRating>
    <CritRating>1077</CritRating>
    <HasteRating>605</HasteRating>
    <ArmorPenetrationRating>0</ArmorPenetrationRating>
    <ExpertiseRating>771</ExpertiseRating>
  </stat>
<weapon>
    <count>2</count>
    <mainhand>
      <dps>462.3</dps>
      <speed>2.60</speed>
    </mainhand>
    <offhand>
      <dps>462.3</dps>
      <speed>2.60</speed>
    </offhand>
  </weapon>
  <Set></Set>
  <trinket>
    <LicensetoSlay>1</LicensetoSlay>
    <HeartofRage>1</HeartofRage>
  </trinket>

If it would make things easier to PM you the xml before and after to help identify what is going on with the reforge tool I can most certainly do that.

Thank you for all that you have done and continue to do with this sim!

Jackyesdk · 01/12/11, 4:08 PM

Looks like the standard unholy rotation is missing DnD which according to the unholy thread should be a part of the single target prio now.
Tried adding it but it looks like it somehow isnt up to date coz couldnt produce a setup where it gave more using it than not and the glyph didnt seem to affect the dps.

Afabar · 01/12/11, 6:26 PM

1) To activate BS socket bonus, just select it as your trade skill in the Consumable section.
2) D&D and its glyph is working fine on my computer.

Latest DK sim update:
- Item Database updated. This should add the missing items.
- Revert the changes on the optimizer. It's slower but should be more accurate.
- A check box on the main screen to set to 4.0.6 patch.

The spell hit bonus previously given by Virulence (Unholy) has been rolled into the Runic Focus passive effect that all death knights possess.
Bone Shield now has 4 charges, up from 3.
Crimson Scourge has been redesigned slightly. Instead of a 50/100% chance to make the next Blood Boil free when Plague Strike is used on a target with Blood Plague, the talent now gives a 5/10% chance to provide a free Blood Boil when the death knight lands any melee attack on a Blood Plagued target.
Howling Blast now deals 40% less damage to all targets other than the primary target of the spell.
Might of the Frozen Wastes now also increases all melee damage by 4/8/12% while wielding a two-handed weapon.
Blightcaller (Mastery) has been redesigned and renamed Blightcaller. It increases all Shadow damage by 2.5% per point of mastery.
Runic Corruption procs while the aura is already active now add 3 seconds to the existing aura duration, instead of simply refreshing/overwriting the existing aura.
Sudden Doom is now triggered only from main-hand auto attacks, and is normalized according to weapon speed rather than having a fixed percentage chance.
Unholy Might (passive) has been reduced to a 5% Strength increase, down from 10%.
Virulence has been redesigned. It now grants 10/20/30% additional disease damage
Scourge strike magical part is 18% per disease.

If you think I have forgot something that might influence DPS/TPS let me know.

Known Bug:
- Engineer helm still missing gem slot.
- Item with random enchants. I need to find a solution.
- Missing gems and enchants.
Regarding the optimizer, I think I need some help if some of you have good algorithm knowledge.
Basically, what it does:
It create for each slot, 3 variations of an item. One with hit reforge, one with expertise reforge and the last one with the best secondary stat. then it create all possible assembly. The issue is that for 17 slot it generate 3^17 or 129,140,163 possibility and without memory management it explode.
I have 2 possibilities, reduce the memory size of all my objects or find an algorithm that would detect which pieces are not worth to be calculated. This is for the later I need some ideas.

chizzle · 01/12/11, 8:29 PM

**EDIT** -- NM, probably not a big deal given the amount of other changes posted to the PTR. **EDIT**

Thanks for putting in the time to update the simulator. I'm wondering if something got missed because Scourge Strike is doing twice the damage. I realize the patch notes have it buffed 18% per disease, but I wouldn't think it would double the output. I was under the impression that our DPS would be slightly lower than where it's at today.

Original:

DPS 18035(+/- 1348)
Total Damage 1298.5m
RunicPower Total runic power used: 493494 (443 wasted)
Threat Per Second 11429
Generated in 9.68 s
Template unholy7-0-34
Priority Unholy
Presence Unholy
Sigil
RuneEnchant
Pet Calculation True

Ability	Damage done				hits			Crits			Misses		Glances			TPS	Uptime
	Total	%	#	Avg	#	Avg	%	#	Avg	%	#	Avg	#	Avg	%	%
Ghoul	198267260	15	63836	4074	45561	3178	71	3108	6382	5	0	0	15167	2219	24	0	0
ScourgeStrike	190948959	15	26795	7126	22148	6073	78	4647	12145	16	1565	6	0	0	0	0	0
DeathCoil	170895852	13	18427	9274	15666	8064	85	2761	16139	15	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
MainHand	145770641	11	31646	6136	17813	4139	53	5942	8277	18	1831	6	7891	2898	24	0	0
ScourgeStrike+ScourgeStrikeMagical	133837732	10	26795	4995	26795	4995	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Ghoul: Sweeping Claw	108221403	8	17995	6014	17129	5738	95	866	11466	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
FrostFever	69352475	5	23998	2890	20400	2514	85	3598	5019	15	0	0	0	0	0	0	105
Gargoyle	69069656	5	11075	6236	9969	5667	90	1106	11368	10	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
FesteringStrike	62164775	5	6563	9472	5425	8070	78	1138	16158	16	381	6	0	0	0	0	0
BloodPlague	53187242	4	23998	2216	20368	1926	85	3630	3846	15	0	0	0	0	0	0	105
Ghoul: Claw	42841406	3	13935	3074	13215	2924	95	720	5836	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
DarkmoonCardHurricane	22909878	2	3829	5983	3249	5562	85	580	8343	15	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
UnholyBlight	17085351	1	18427	927	18427	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Army of the Dead	8183925	1	74312	110	66846	109	90	7466	121	10	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
BloodStrike	5760657	0	1068	5394	864	4531	77	204	9050	18	58	5	0	0	0	0	0
GCD Usage	0	0	61920	0	61920	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	87
Outbreak	0	0	728	0	617	0	85	111	0	15	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Horn	0	0	2279	0	2279	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
BloodTap	0	0	1917	0	1917	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Dark Transformation	0	0	1438	0	1438	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	58
Shadow Infusion	0	0	7608	0	7608	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	36
SuddenDoom	0	0	4739	0	4739	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	4
Fallen Crusader	0	0	8584	0	8584	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	84
LicensetoSlay	0	0	97718	0	97718	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	100
Runic Corruption	0	0	8442	0	8442	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	33
Unholy Frenzy	0	0	461	0	461	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	19
Bloodlust	0	0	240	0	240	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	13

Using 4.0.6

DPS 20816(+/- 1341)
Total Damage 1498.78m
RunicPower Total runic power used: 482232 (2576 wasted)
Threat Per Second 13513
Generated in 9.72 s
Template unholy7-0-34
Priority Unholy
Presence Unholy
Sigil
RuneEnchant
Pet Calculation True

Ability	Damage done				hits			Crits			Misses		Glances			TPS	Uptime
	Total	%	#	Avg	#	Avg	%	#	Avg	%	#	Avg	#	Avg	%	%
ScourgeStrike+ScourgeStrikeMagical	260753133	17	27057	9637	27057	9637	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
DeathCoil	235269304	16	25340	9284	21510	8064	85	3830	16140	15	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Ghoul	206264939	14	64062	4223	45725	3293	71	3115	6616	5	0	0	15222	2305	24	0	0
ScourgeStrike	192885237	13	27057	7129	22367	6076	78	4690	12152	16	1574	6	0	0	0	0	0
MainHand	146421463	10	31757	6141	17861	4140	53	5983	8280	18	1838	6	7913	2898	24	0	0
Ghoul: Sweeping Claw	122215098	8	20290	6023	19295	5741	95	995	11506	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Gargoyle	73781187	5	11731	6289	10542	5706	90	1189	11466	10	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
FesteringStrike	65665818	4	6918	9492	5713	8080	78	1205	16185	16	403	6	0	0	0	0	0
BloodPlague	53483147	4	23999	2229	20369	1937	85	3630	3865	15	0	0	0	0	0	0	105
FrostFever	45339989	3	23999	1889	20401	1643	85	3598	3285	15	0	0	0	0	0	0	105
Ghoul: Claw	36443606	2	11738	3105	11137	2952	95	601	5929	5	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
UnholyBlight	23521099	2	25340	928	25340	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
DarkmoonCardHurricane	23071176	2	3857	5982	3275	5562	85	582	8343	15	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Army of the Dead	8113643	0	73616	110	66225	109	90	7391	121	10	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
BloodStrike	5549451	0	1025	5414	824	4529	76	201	9044	18	61	6	0	0	0	0	0
GCD Usage	0	0	67773	0	67773	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	97
Outbreak	0	0	654	0	558	0	85	96	0	15	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Horn	0	0	1198	0	1198	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
BloodTap	0	0	1179	0	1179	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Dark Transformation	0	0	1646	0	1646	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	64
Shadow Infusion	0	0	8880	0	8880	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	31
SuddenDoom	0	0	12063	0	12063	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	10
Fallen Crusader	0	0	8646	0	8646	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	84
LicensetoSlay	0	0	98514	0	98514	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	100
Runic Corruption	0	0	11510	0	11510	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	48
Unholy Frenzy	0	0	479	0	479	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	20
Bloodlust	0	0	240	0	240	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	13

kc0716 · 01/12/11, 9:33 PM

Niiice, thank you so much for keeping this beautiful tool up-to-date with Cataclysm!

By the way, does this support the 4 piece bonus (total of 250 str) for the PvP armor set?
I know the item data base has the PvP armors but I wasn't sure if the 4 piece bonus is recognized in the Sim.

Lciee · 01/12/11, 10:04 PM

I was about to write a post here saying how the new (or old) reforge tool is fantastic. I just loaded up my toon from the armory - put the stat weights in, hit optimise. It did take around 12 minutes to do however at the end on the character sheet in the simulator it had me at right on the hit and expertise caps while maximising my mastery which was perfect!

However these numbers simply did not convert into game.

Hit rating was on the dot (as the simulator said it would). Expertise was way off. In sim it reported me having 788 Expertise (26.24). However in game after reforging everything as it stated in the simulator (and I did double check) it was putting me at 28 expertise not 26. Any ideas? Either way - the new reforger is more accurate maybe expertise calculations arent using the right variable in the sim though atm?

Afabar · 01/13/11, 4:36 AM

1) Pvp set bonus should be working correctly.

2) Lciee, do the expertise rating given by the optimizer is the same that the one given in game? Did you take into account your expertise racial? Copying here your character export from the sim between code tag could be helpful.

Lastest DK sim update:
* Death Coil damage has been reduced by roughly 10%.
* Heart Strike now deals 175% weapon damage plus 15% per disease, up from 120% plus 10% per disease.
* Improved Death Strike now increases the damage of Death Strike by 30/60/90%, up from 15/30/45%.
* Dark Transformation now increases pet damage by 80%, down from 100%.
* Shadow Infusion now increases pet damage by 8% per stack, down from 10%.
* Rage of Rivendare now increases strike damage by 12/24/36%, down from 15/30/45%.
* New Unholy mastery do not add damage to SS Shadow damage.

SS Shadow damage is still high. I wonder if it still double dips with Rage of Rivendare.

Sahlia · 01/13/11, 7:55 PM

There has to be something wrong for Unholy if i get a much higher DPS with Patch 4.0.6 than without the 4.0.6 option. The DPS goes up from 21631 to 23218, while all maths suggests it has to go down because of the numerous nerfs.

Martialbob · 01/13/11, 8:36 PM

clear all local data, then restart kahorie