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Old 03/23/09, 1:56 PM   #1
ZaoZao
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Phat tanking Lewts with 3.1 (Ulduar Drops Only)

So, Just did a Major Upgrade, I added proper links and correct the drop info on all known items (Mainly the Set pieces). There are very few items left with unkown drop locations.

Also note that I excluded the SBV/SBR items and everything with Ilvl<219 I also didn't add the Set drops from Emalon.

Hope you appreciate the list.

Also: Suno is trying to make a BiS list for tanks in his post. But I'd suggest keeping discussions about items in this post as much as possible and leave Suno's post for theorycrafting around tanking itself.

8.5: Updated (thanks to Cloudgatherer and Vynn)

9.5: Yet another Update (Thanks to filed magrat and Crona)

13.5 Update: thanks to Giske and Cloudgatherer

Head:
Ilvl: 226 [Conqueror's Darkruned Faceguard] Thorim 25 Man / 58 Emblembs of Conquest
Ilvl: 226 [Helm of the Faceless] General Vezax 25 Man
Ilvl: 219 [Ironbark Faceguard] Freya 10 Man
Ilv:l 219 [Valorous Darkruned Faceguard] Mimiron 10 Man

Neck:

239 [Bronze Pendant of the Vanir] Freya 25 Man Hard Mode
226 [Titanstone Pendant] Trash Mobs 25 Man
226 [Shard of the Crystal Forest] 19 Emblems of Conquest
219 [Mark of the Unyielding] Kologarn 10 Man
219 [Fervor of the Protectorate] Trash Mobs 10 Man

Shoulders:

226 [Conqueror's Darkruned Pauldrons] Yogg Saron 25 Man
226 [Shoulderplates of the Deconstructor] XT-002 Deconstructor 25 Man
219 [Valorous Darkruned Pauldrons] Thorim 10 Man

Cloak:

239 [Titanskin Cloak] Mimiron 25 Man HardMode
226 [Cloak of the Makers] Auriaya 25 Man
219 [Saronite Animus Cloak] General Vezax 10 Man

Chest:

226 [Conqueror's Darkruned Chestguard] Hodir 25 Man / 58 Emblems of Conquest
226 Breastplate of the Timeless Algalon 10 Man
219 [Valorous Darkruned Chestguard] Yogg-Saron 10 Man

Wrists:

226 [Mimiron's Inferno Couplings] Flame Leviathan 25 Man
219 [Flamewatch Armguards] Flame Leviathan 10 Man

Hands:

239 [Handguards of Revitalization] Freya 25 Man HardMode
226 [Conqueror's Darkruned Handguards] Mimiron 25 Man
226 [Gauntlets of the Royal Watch] 28 Emblems of Conquest
219 [Valorous Darkruned Handguards] Freya 10 Man
219 [Gauntlets of the Iron Furnace] Ignis the Furnace Master 10 Man

Belt:

226 [Indestructible Plate Girdle] Blacksmithing Recipe
226 [Shieldwarder Girdle] 28 Emblems of Conquest
219 [Stormtempered Girdle] Razorscale 10 Man

Legs:

239 [Legplates of the Endless Void] Algalon 25 Man
226 [Conqueror's Darkruned Legguards] Freya 25 Man
226 [Gilded Steel Legplates] Flame Leviathan 10 Man HardMode
226 [Saronite Plated Legguards] Kologarn 25 Man
219 [Archaedas' Lost Legplates] Auriaya 10 Man
219 [Valorous Darkruned Legguards] Hodir 10 Man

Feet:

226 [Charred Saronite Greaves] Razorscale 25 Man
226 [Spiked Deathdealers] Blacksmithing Recipe

Fingers:
239 [Fate's Clutch] Thorim 25 Man Hard Mode
226 [Seal of Ulduar] XT-002 25 Man
226 [The Leviathan's Coil] Flame Leviathan 25 Man
226 [Platinum Band of the Aesir] Auriaya 25 Man
219 [Signet of Winter] Hodir 10 Man

Trinkets:

226 [Heart of Iron] Ignis the Furnace Master 25 Man
226 [The General's Heart] General Vezax 25 Man
219 [Royal Seal of King Llane] Yogg-Saron 10 Man
219 [Furnace Stone] Ignis the Furnace Master 10 Man

Two-Handed Weapon:

239 [Dark Edge of Depravity] Yogg-Saron 25 Man HardMode
239 [Voldrethar, Dark Blade of Oblivion] General Vezax 25 Man HardMode
232 [Aesir's Edge] Xt-002 10 Man HardMode
232 [Earthshaper] Yogg-Saron 25 Man
232 [Worldcarver] Ignis the Furnace Master 25 Man
232 [Stormrune Edge] Iron Council 25 Man
226 [Hammer of Crushing Whispers] Yogg Saron 10 Man HardMode
219 [Abaddon] Yogg-Saron 10 Man
219 [Ironsoul] Flame Leviathan 10 Man
219 [Stormedge] Hodir 10 Man
219 [Hoperender] Thorim 10 Man

One-Handed Weapons:

239 [Sorthalis, Hammer of the Watchers] XT-002 Deconstructor 25 Man Hard Mode
226 [Shiver] Hodir 10 Man
232 [Titanguard] Flame Leviathan 25 Man
219 [Legacy of Thunder] Thorim 10 Man
219 [Stoneguard] Kologarn 10 Man

Sigil

226 [Sigil of Deflection] Razorscale 25 Man
226 [Sigil of the Vengeful Heart] XT-002 25 Man

Last edited by ZaoZao : 06/03/09 at 9:53 AM.

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Old 03/23/09, 2:20 PM   #2
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I'd like to note you have pants in there that do have Shield Block Rating and Value, I would also like to see T8 added to the list. I wonder if they plan on adding epic JC trinkets because I personally don't like the 107dodge trinket's Essence of Gossamer damage absorption ability.

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Old 03/23/09, 2:36 PM   #3
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I think you really need to denote which of those are the iLvl 239 items. Sure, I'd take a Bronze Pendant of the Vanir any day, but so would everyone else and that's either a hard mode item or a YS item. In the interim, Shard of the Crystal Forest is likely to be the most common 226 tanking item. I'd also add the set pieces we know about, but frankly I'm pretty disappointed they are all "parry" based items, and will likely not be picked up by DKs. Here's a couple items to consider:

Shard of the Crystal Forest - neck
Cloak of the Makers - back
Shieldwarders Girdle - is a waist item not a wrist item
Wyrmguard Legplates - looks like they changed them to have shield values

As far as weapons go, it's looking like Voldrethar will be highly sought after with Worldcarver the likely 2nd and most common choice.

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Old 03/23/09, 2:46 PM   #4
ZaoZao
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I'd add the Setpieces, but the only thing I could find were the Screenshots from MMO-Champion, so I posted those above.

Concerning the Emblems items: I'm unsure about them, because the MMO-Champ screenshots list some of them without SV/SBR...but I'll trust WoWHead on this one.

Thanks for the tipps, I'll make some Itemlevelranking throughout the week (or if I get benched in today's raid)

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Old 03/23/09, 7:41 PM   #5
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Bronze Pendant of the Vanir is from Freya on hard-mode.

I too agree that iLevels should be listed either right before or right after the item link, it makes it easier to differentiate at a glance without having to read the description.

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Old 03/24/09, 4:46 AM   #6
ZaoZao
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Update:

Added itemlevels, some missing items and the suggestions from above.

Still haven't found the missing chespiece though

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Old 03/24/09, 4:46 PM   #7
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The link to the Valorous Darkruned Faceguard is faulty.

Ignorance can be solved with a book. Stupidity requires a shotgun and a shovel.

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Old 03/24/09, 5:48 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Duilliath View Post
The link to the Valorous Darkruned Faceguard is faulty.
What do you mean by faulty? It is working just fine for me.

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Old 03/25/09, 11:59 AM   #9
ZaoZao
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Updated, thanks for the help and suggestions till now!

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Old 03/25/09, 12:08 PM   #10
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I'm curious as to why you would even bother with Shield Block Rating and Value items? I highly doubt we need to confuse people who are already extremely confused. There also isn't any reason for Warriors or Paladins to be looking on the Death Knight forums if they are interested in finding out 3.1 gearing.

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Old 03/25/09, 12:57 PM   #11
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All defensive 1H weapons are fast and therefore favor parry-gibbing. Also, weapon based strikes suck even more with fast 1H weapons. I wonder if Blizzard is trying to tell DW DK tanks that they should not be dual-wielding.

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Old 03/25/09, 1:26 PM   #12
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I posted it because it might be an upgrade for some people.

I don know some tanks who still wear one or another ilvl 200 Chest/should, whatever simply because they had no luck with drops or did not have enough DKP.

Even though I agree with you, most people who raid 25 man Ulduar will have (or at least will be close to) BiS it still might help one or two people.

And for the confusion: I think most people on these forum are clever enough to recognize what item suits them, and what does not.

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Old 03/25/09, 2:00 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by ZaoZao View Post
I posted it because it might be an upgrade for some people.

I don know some tanks who still wear one or another ilvl 200 Chest/should, whatever simply because they had no luck with drops or did not have enough DKP.

Even though I agree with you, most people who raid 25 man Ulduar will have (or at least will be close to) BiS it still might help one or two people.

And for the confusion: I think most people on these forum are clever enough to recognize what item suits them, and what does not.

I doubt it would be an upgrade beyond Strength, Stamina, and Defense. I would imagine it to be more of a downgrade since you would lose dodge, parry, expertise, or hit rating.

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Old 03/29/09, 7:57 AM   #14
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I would go with the Worldcarver over Voldrethar any day, simply because of the expertise on it. The Worldcarver also offers slightly more stamina (Voldrethar has 128 base stamina + two 24 stamina gems), unless you're a jewelcrafter and can spare a prismatic gem to put in it, which would be stupid since the socketbonus is crit rating.

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Old 03/29/09, 10:39 AM   #15
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The Worldcarver should be the first weapon for dk 2H tanking : it has the highest stamina + a huge bunch of expertise and for an orc dk like me even more.

The dark blade of oblivion is much more a dps weapon and i won't roll on it , plus it dropped in hard mode so i highly doubt we'll see plenty of them.

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Old 03/29/09, 12:23 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by Alandris View Post
The Worldcarver should be the first weapon for dk 2H tanking : it has the highest stamina + a huge bunch of expertise and for an orc dk like me even more.

The dark blade of oblivion is much more a dps weapon and i won't roll on it , plus it dropped in hard mode so i highly doubt we'll see plenty of them.
They recently reworked a lot of strength dps items to have less stamina and more strength. Unfortunately Worldcarver got the same treatment, and it only has 136 stamina and 137 strength now. You can see it in this mmo-champion screenshot.

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Old 03/29/09, 9:56 PM   #17
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That's too bad about Worldcarver. It will still likely be the most often seen DK tanking weapon, however that does mean that Voldrethar is going to be pretty much BiS for DK tanks unless for some reason a DK is expertise starved. That also means that the Rune Edge is a decent alternative, trading expertise for avoidance.

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Old 03/30/09, 5:55 AM   #18
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Yeah...that's quite sad actually...I'm going to update the weapon section with the MMO-Screenshots.

But as an Orc Ill still take Worldcarver of Voldrethar...16 expertise is just massive, and honestly, the sword looks fugly

Edit: looks as if Worldcarver was the only weapon changed

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Old 03/30/09, 5:03 PM   #19
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Has anyone else observed just how good the Ironbark Faceguard compares against the 226 tanking helms? It is itemized in such a way to be on par with the Conquerer's Helm, and I'm leaning towards it being near BiS for tanking itemization. Also, the OP can update the post with the rest of the 226 iLvl set items, the entire set is up on ptr.wowhead.com over here.

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Old 04/03/09, 11:24 AM   #20
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Originally Posted by ZaoZao View Post
Yeah...that's quite sad actually...I'm going to update the weapon section with the MMO-Screenshots.

But as an Orc Ill still take Worldcarver of Voldrethar...16 expertise is just massive, and honestly, the sword looks fugly

Edit: looks as if Worldcarver was the only weapon changed
I have been thinking about the expertise too. While looking at other Ulduar gear though it looks as if you are VERY easily expertise capped from gear only, which makes the expertise on Worldcarver almost useless. I think I will be going with a high threat weapon or avoidance weapon in Ulduar rather than Worldcarver's expertise.

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Old 04/04/09, 1:09 AM   #21
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It is not easy to get hard capped with expertise. 60 expertise skill is still quite a bit unless you are gearing for it.

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Old 04/04/09, 2:09 AM   #22
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Originally Posted by mmownforever View Post
I have been thinking about the expertise too. While looking at other Ulduar gear though it looks as if you are VERY easily expertise capped from gear only, which makes the expertise on Worldcarver almost useless. I think I will be going with a high threat weapon or avoidance weapon in Ulduar rather than Worldcarver's expertise.
I'm not really seeing the same thing. A lot of the expertise items from Ulduar have a poor combination of stats, so you end up losing a lot by using them. So far a lot of the hard mode loot we've seen are mostly mitigation items, so losing threat stats may be a problem as you gain more 239 loot as well. I made an Item Comparison Tool - World of Warcraft to get an idea of what kind of stats we'd see in Ulduar in the best gear available. The first set is a current content set for reference. The second set is limited to Ulduar-25 normal gear only, the third set has hard mode gear included with a threat emphasis, and the fourth a hard mode set with a heavy emphasis on mitigation and avoidance.

It's true that we've only seen a small part of Ulduar gear, especially for the hard modes. There may be very good items with expertise that we don't know about yet. For now most of the expertise items are very poorly itemized. For example our T8 legs and gloves combine defense, parry and expertise. I'm planning on passing the tier items for the hand and leg slots to people who can use the tokens better, and picking up some of the very good non-tier items instead.

The expertise items I'd consider worth using are:
Titanstone Pendant
Titanskin Cloak
Platinum Band of the Aesir
One of these comes from a hard mode, and may not be available very quickly.

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Old 04/04/09, 6:22 AM   #23
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So, I've updated the post and every loot received a WoWHead Link. But there are two things that confuse me:

1. There's still no tanking chestpiece for DKs except for the T8 chests

2. Worldcarver stats on WoWHead are still the "old" ones. Does anyone have a proof that it's stats are still changed on the PTR or did WoWHead not notice the change of stats?

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Old 04/04/09, 7:07 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by ZaoZao View Post
2. Worldcarver stats on WoWHead are still the "old" ones. Does anyone have a proof that it's stats are still changed on the PTR or did WoWHead not notice the change of stats?
I don't have any additional proof, but WoWhead hasn't updated any of the other strength items to their new stats either. If you look at Sif's Promise or Belt of Colossal Rage for example, they still have the old stats on wowhead. Whether this means wowhead is slow to update or that they reverted the changes to the items I don't know, but I'd bet on the former.

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Old 04/05/09, 4:04 AM   #25
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world of raids just posted some new general vezaxx loot from 10 man (previously unseen) and a new 25 man piece.

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