Nope, DRW's diseases definitely drop the moment it despawns. You can verify this by checking how many ticks your DRW's diseases get on your parser of choice.

As for Armor Pen: there is no cap. The "cap" GC refers to (not wrong, just a misleading choice of words if you don't read it carefully) is the amount of armor that your tooltip ArP % is applied against. As some have found in the combat stats discussion, you can still gain benefit beyond 100% ArP, and it appears possible to reduce mobs to negative armor values. It simply takes more ArP than the tooltip suggests.

As i described, addon stops tracking those diseases because the weapon is gone, and the buff on the player is gone. DRW diseases definitely stay, i observed that multiple times after seeing that quartz stops tracking the extra diseases when DRW's duration ends, but the debuffs of the diseases on the target's unitframe remain. And to be sure i recorded a short combatlog data, you can check it out here.

edit: yeah and they do tick for damage after DRW's duration ends, as my data shows.

D'oh, yeah, I was very wrong two posts up. That should teach me to go do a target dummy test at one in the morning without reconfirming.

After another try with the combat log in the actual right setting, the diseases do continue to tick and do damage, they just aren't credited to you any longer which might explain the ticks getting lost in WWS.

Hello, I've been trying out this spec for a few days now, but I'm a bit worried about the rotation. Specced 51/0/20.

I do: IT>PS>DS>HS>HS> Dump
DS>HS>HS>HS>HS> Dump (The last HS barely makes the disease timer, but I can manage)

Is this the common rotation? I would also like to know whether or not there are alternatives to this specific rotation.

I'm curious because I don't seem to be pulling higher numbers with this spec & rotation compared to my Unholy spec. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Ehum are you hitting normal 80level dummies? Since I've pretty much naxx 10man BiS gear and im doing only 300 more dps than you but against boss dummy. HS figure seems bit too high so I assume that it actually hits 2 target at same time. So far all tests with various builds have shown that disease glyph usage is actually dps loss.

HS at 49%? Seems like you've been hitting more than one target.

I am looking for some help on what are considered good rotations for Blood. After doing some research through this thread, it seems that the following rotation I am using is deemed the best.

My current rotation is:
1) IT->PS
2) HS->HS->DS->DC
3) DS->HS->HS->HS->HS

Then I either refresh diseases or dump RP.

I use three castsequence macros for the above segments of my rotation. To summarize them, each one of the items is it's own castsequence macro. However to be clear, the one DC in castsequence 2 is not in the macro.

I will admit there are moments I stray away from the above rotation. For example, I will save RP for the first landing of Razorscale and the second heart phase on XT (Basically when my guild bloodlusts). I do this to maximize my DRW, aotd and ghoul during these special phases of each boss.

Below is a break down of a couple fights from lastnight:
Razorscale, ending DPS 3626:


Ignis, ending DPS 4034:


Basically, my DPS with Blood is not improving. Any constructive criticism would be appreciated.

Thanks.

With the increased usefulness of ArPen rating, has Executioner become a viable "real" enchant for Blood DKs?

This has been rehashed many, many times upthread, but I guess I'll reiterate. I believe the primary arguments against GoD are:

1) it doesn't refresh BP if used within 3s of BP falling off (has this bug been fixed?)
2) the extra GCD & OB-(PS+IT+BS) damage ~= the glyph you give up...so not much gain.
3) its value is greatly diminished when switching targets and its value is nill in 2+ mob situations (pest on 2nd mob)

If you're having trouble hitting the rotation, then the extra GCD will have more value for you than for others.

I have been messing around with blood for a while, and I have decided on 50/0/21 for the time being. I have modified my rotation a little to maximize UB uptime and maximize DS bonus from rune power. I currently use PS,IT, DS, HS, HS, UB -> DS, DS, HS, HS, DC repeat. This rotation allows me to keep up UB full time, keep >50 runic power at all times for DS bonus, and does not contribute to too much wasted runic power either. The only major glyph I really use is DS. I have Disease for AoE fights, which are not as popular as Naxx, but still very helpful, as it allows me to modify my rotation easily. I dont have a set AoE rotation, but I still throw out a DS or two to get some death runes for blood boil spam, and its worth keeping the dots up for extra blood boil damage, and to get any new adds in the AoE fray. I only have The Jawbone for my weapon right now, but I can still stay in the top 3 dps for almost every boss fight Im not off tanking with 4k-6k dps depending on the nature of the fight. Now my question is, how does the T8.5 4pc bonus actually work? Im thinking of going back to OB vice DS if it works how I would like it.

Assume a weapon damage of 1000 to make the numbers easy, and a bonus damage of 800. An OB with no diseases would do 1800 damage, 2025 for 1 disease, and 2250 for 2 diseases. So with 4 pc, is the bonus percentage a fraction of the disease bonus, so 2 disease bonus of 25% is now 30%, or is it an additive bonus of 20% per disease for a total of 65% (25%+20%=20%)? The tooltip implies that its an added bonus, and not another fraction, but that seems a little over powered. That would be 2970 for 2 diseases.

Try DS-IT-PS-HS-HS-HS-HS-DS-HS-HS. Maybe your last HS hitting without diseases due to lag etc.

I did 5k average dps in ulduar last night 8 bosses down. Wow Web Stats