There Will Be Blood (DPS) - Meet the new thread/Same as the old thread
 

Just cleaning the clutter because the old thread was huge and is mostly inapplicable to the newest patch (3.1). All hail our Death Strike overlords!

This thread is still a honeypot for crappy posts, bad grammar, whines and other infractionable things. Let's keep the terrible posting level low here, ja?

Stuff if you haven't been paying attention:

Diseaseless is dumb, stop trying to make it work.

Blood specs have about 3-4 points of filler (if you count Vamp Blood as filler rather than a "oh god I just stood in fire" button). You can dump them in Rune Tap, Bloodworms or whatever.

51/0/20 of some variant seems to be the Standard Spec right now.

Unholy points are pretty mutable right now. I think the difference between maxing out Morbidity vs other talents depends on whether you have of the Vengeful Heart. Glyph choice I'm personally not sure about either (you Death Strike a lot less than you Death Coil, for example).

44/0/27 is the new debated spec. Since I haven't actually tried it, I'm not sure if this is the best layout of points. Basically, UB for your big dump and pet ghoul for massive pet DPS.

I approve of the new thread. One thing to note, with the "final" Official Patch Notes they have the DRW Glyph at 10 Seconds again...

Maybe this isn't a typo. Maybe. You can find the final Official notes here or posted on MMOC here.

Certainly an interesting patch. Bit sad about losing Shadow of Death though. I also agree with a new thread, the other one is just so huge.

Any consensus yet for the cookie cutter build from the PTR? I've seen a few, but I'm curious to see if anyone reached a consensus.

I've seen a lot of discussions about 51/00/20 and 51/2/18. Very hard to say now, for me.

I believe 50/0/21 was also put forth as an alternative. DRW is capable of more damage than Unholy Blight, but Blight is a lot less demanding to manage while only being marginally behind.

The Spec I just made (50/0/21) (Guess it's been done?)
 

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...5&version=9767



Not claiming to have invented this spec. Quite obviously. But this is what I will be speccing into tomorrow (3.1)


Rotation will be


PS>IT>HS>HS>DS>UB>(DC til rp is empty) HS>HS>HS>HS*(DS)HS>HS


* you can either go for a 6hs rotation or a 4hs 1ds. the 4HS rotation scales better with higher end gear.



Please post some feedback on this spec. Pro's Con's , I'm tired and Haven't really researched every blasted number behind it :)

I havent tried it out yet or anything, but I was thinking that I would have to agree with most of you o n51/0/20 as a good spec. I was thinking of this rotation:

IT-PS-HS-HS-OB-RP rump
IT-PS-HS-HS-HS-HS-RP
OB-IT-PS-HS-HS-RP
HS-HS-HS-HS-OB-RP

With the longer cooldowns on diseases this seams like it would work, only needing to refresh diseases after OB, I know it seems long but I think it would do the job.

Yes, But DS replaces OB, And it doesnt consume diseases.

what he said. with ob being taken off of might of mograine you lose the 45% crit damage bonus. ob will crit for about as much as hs. ds self buffed i was getting 7-8k crits regularly and raid buffed in ulduar with shirt of uber was getting some nice 11-12k ds crits using the 51/2/18 spec. glyphs you want are Glyph of DS, Glyph of DRW, and Glyph of Dark Death.(15% more dc damage)

Speccing http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...0&version=9757 tomorow with:

IT -> PS -> HS -> HS -> DS -> Dump -> HS -> HS -> HS -> HS -> DS -> Dump as a rotation.

I'll edit this post after a night of raiding and tell my experiences with it :]. Gluck in ulduar!

Liking this layout so far but a question in regards to Sigil's and I might have missed this in the huge rocket science thread but... I assume Sigil of Haunted Dreams will now be more effective than Sigil of Awareness?

From what I saw, Death Strike has been added to the Sigil.

Indeed it has, my apologies. Seems like everytime I come here to read, I'm either half-asleep or half-awake which makes for bad reading on my part.

Actually there was a change affecting this sigil, now it also affects DS. Haunted Dreams gives roughly 3.78% or so per proc, with a 15% proc rate. It has been discussed before, and Awareness > Haunted Dreams. I hope it helps =)

Btw, it would be helpful to most viewers of this thread to put the different specs links for future references like 51-0-20/51-2-18/50-0-21/44-0-26(+1). If someone could link them, it'd be appreciated =D