Smalll bug-report regarding this error:

It seems the program only accept English US region settings - the culprit is that many other regions use "," instead of "." as default for decimals. - I wringed my head a lot over this a couple of days ago, until i remembered to check if it works with US settings. - Thus, setting region to "English (USA)" in control panel allows you to run the program. - I also tried replacing all "." in stats with "," before this, but even tho that fixes the aforementioned error, it gives a new one.

Related to this, theres also no way to cancel the gear/stats entering window once you get into it in a region thats not supported, thus you have to abort the program via task-manager.

I would suggest using semi-colon ";" as separator in the .txt files, and allowing both "," and "." as decimal separator as the most region-friendly approach.

Great program anyway, i'd like to add loading from armory and gear-upgrade list to my wish list, but that might be outside the scope of the program

Cheers, you solved my problem! I started to think it must be some kind of region thingy, after realising it's about those commas but couldnt realise trying to change the region to "English (USA)".

The idea of using semi-colon ";" in the.txt files and allowing "," and "." both is a nice idea, to make the program more region friendly.

Now to use the progarm itself . Thanks again for the great help.

When I am trying to run the dk optimizer I get run time error 9 subscript out of range.

It seems that the error occurs when i select serilas as my mh and blood crush as my oh.
also if i select all the gems so the sim can give me optimal gemming it stops running after it calculated the gear sets then it gets stuck on gemming the gear

Is there a BiS DW build thread anywhere? this BiS thread and it just talks about 2h frost and not DW. and then when this thread refers to DW they point back to the DW thread that only talks about rotation and spec and not gear..

anyone have a straight forward DW BiS page up right now?

Can you please be more specific about when this error occurs? Is it when selecting the gear, looking for candidate gearsets, or gemming? Exactly what settings are you using when it occurs? How many of each item? I haven't seen this error reported before, so if anyone else can independently verify it, that would be great as well.

Also, if you've been following the thread it should be apparent that selecting more than 4-5 (maybe 6) gems will result in long calculation times. The program is not frozen, you've just asked it to calculate the answer to a hugely complex question. It is very possible to make certain you have optimal results without selecting every gem on the list.

Edit: I've duplicated and fixed the error. There was problem when forcing weapons to specific hands by selecting MH / Off-H for only two weapons that resulted in 0 sets being seen by the gemming routines, which threw an error. This is fixed now. As a side note - you shouldn't force the handedness on the weapons. This is taken care of automatically by the program.

DK Optimize 2.0.3

A few small changes today. I'm working on some of the more needed features like hit / exp cap forcing, but I won't get a chance to upload them today.

Installation Instructions

• Download DK_Optimize_v2.0.3.zip (2206 KB)
• Extract the archive and run Setup.exe
• Head to Start-->Programs-->DK Optimize and run the program. Enjoy

Alternate Instructions (if the above fails for any reason)

• Download DK_Optimize_v2.0.3_MANUAL.zip (908 KB)
• Extract the archive to a directory of your choice. Make sure relative paths are preserved.
• Move the three *.OCX files that were extracted to your WINDOWS\System32 folder. Do not replace existing versions if they are already present.
• Run DK Optimize.exe. Enjoy.

Backing Up Your Existing Data: If you wish to preserve your character selections as well as any changes you made to gear, gems, or weights, backup "weights.txt", "gems.txt", "gear.txt", and "status.txt" before installing. Before dragging them back in, you need to make sure to Find / Replace all commas ',' in the file(s) with semicolons ';' as I have changed the delimiter in this release. Other than that no compatibility issues should be present. Replace the installed version with your backups after you do this. Run the program and your settings should be preserved.

Changes:

• DK Optimize should now function correctly regardless of whether or not you use ',' or '.' as a decimal point in your region.
• Corrected an error in Starfall Girdle.
• Titanium Razorplate added.
• Titanium Spikeguards added.
• Fixed an error that would occur in situations where only two weapons with unique handedness were selected when dual wielding.

Upcoming:

• Leather items will be added shortly so that they can also be calculated into gearsets.
• A reworked results screen will be added.
• Configuration sets that support loading and saving multiple profiles of gear, weight, and character selections.
• Enchant configuration - Enable and disable specific enchants as desired.

Please as always let me know if you have any problems so that I can work them out with you. Suggestions are always welcome.

Tnx for the response zerrack the thing is when i select 2 weapons in this case serilas and bloodcrush (only 2 1h i have) it tells me i should use serilas in both hands that is why i tried to force it to use serilas mh and bloodcrush oh so i could optimize the rest of my gear like legs and rings.

on the subject of amount of items i have a max of 4 items but that is only for trinkets and 3 sets of legs

hey quick question -

for the gear i have currently, (check my armory) - would it be more beneficial as a DW DK to use the maly 25 neck with the pyrite infuser ----- or to drop it for the conquest neck for plus hit and equip the fury of five flights?

my current hit with pyrite trinket on is 366 - where should i draw the line for hit?

I have run long simulation for the popular spec using default character. As the sim is getting, in my humble opinion, results we can trust, I would like to share them with you. It could be a good base for calculating BiS.

Blood 51-0-20

EP:	AttackPower	100
EP:	Strength	282
EP:	Agility	124
EP:	CritRating	182
EP:	HasteRating	167
EP:	ArmorPenetrationRating	267
EP:	ExpertiseRating	257
EP:	HitRating	367
EP:	SpellHitRating	107
EP:	WeaponDPS	946
EP:	WeaponSpeed	49999
EP:	2T7	3999
EP:	4T7	5454
EP:	2T8	9272
EP:	4T8	11272
EP:	2T9	49454
EP:	4T9	29272
EP:	Comet	25714
EP:	DarkMatter	22142
EP:	Bandit	10357
EP:	Necromantic	9642
EP:	Victory	20000
EP:	DCDeath	10714
EP:	Greatness	20714
EP:	DeathChoice	30357
EP:	Pyrite	18035
EP:	OldGod	18750
EP:	Mirror	14642
EP:	BitterAnguish	11785
EP:	GrimToll	37321
EP:	MjolRune	41249
	Template	Blood 51-0-20
	Priority	Blood
	Presence	Blood
	Sigil	VengefulHeart
	RuneEnchant	FallenCrusader
	Pet Calculation	True

Unholy Oblit 0-17-54

EP:	AttackPower	100
EP:	Strength	303
EP:	Agility	119
EP:	CritRating	141
EP:	HasteRating	254
EP:	ArmorPenetrationRating	164
EP:	ExpertiseRating	180
EP:	HitRating	345
EP:	SpellHitRating	167
EP:	WeaponDPS	596
EP:	WeaponSpeed	20967
EP:	2T7	7704
EP:	4T7	18688
EP:	2T8	12131
EP:	4T8	13770
EP:	2T9	31803
EP:	4T9	60163
EP:	Comet	24677
EP:	DarkMatter	18709
EP:	Bandit	10483
EP:	Necromantic	8709
EP:	Victory	19354
EP:	DCDeath	10806
EP:	Greatness	21774
EP:	DeathChoice	32903
EP:	Pyrite	18387
EP:	OldGod	19032
EP:	Mirror	15322
EP:	BitterAnguish	9032
EP:	GrimToll	21612
EP:	MjolRune	23870
	Template	Unholy Oblit 0-17-54
	Priority	Unholy Oblit
	Presence	Blood
	Sigil	Virulence
	RuneEnchant	FallenCrusader
	Pet Calculation	True

DW Frost 0-54-17
To be redone.

Arp is getting stronger with more Arp and better weapons. Sometimes it even overtakes Str. That is from a pure single target perspective. It's the best when you try for yourself, but the values above seem to be correct and usable.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but that Blood spec should have Armor listed with a stat weight.

36 armor = 1 AP. So given the paradigm, 1 armor = 2.78

Is the EP value for Greatness being calculated accurately? It seems really low for all the specs when it has been assumed to be BiS for pretty much every spec.

e.g. for Blood: Greatness: 90*282 + .32*300*282 = 52452 (assuming 32% uptime on proc)

Edit:
Also,

Death's Choice: 256*100 + .30*450*282 = 63670 (proc lasts 15secs/45secs like Greatness so even with a slightly lower proc rate, uptime should be pretty high..so assume it to be 30%)

This also seems much higher than the results show.

I'm fairly certain that the listed EP is only for the proc, not counting the static stats on any of the the trinkets.

I dont quite believe the EP values for 0/17/54 specc.
Haste and Hit seems to be way off. I would rather expect haste to be something like 150 and hit something like 220-250.

The other values seem to be quite ok. Anyway 3/13/55 has become more popular than 0/17/54 since the new dk sigil has become availabe, maybe you could run some parses for this specc.

The issue with Hit and to less extent Haste, they change value as you get more or less of it. In the default character's gear, those were his values. I agree that Haste seems too high.

17/54 is more popular than 3/13/55, but it is worth doing both specs.

Haste indeed seems to high for the 17/54 Oblit spec. Not much has changed since 3.1 regarding haste - necrosis, BCB, white swings, and pet damage have roughly stayed the same.

I'm have made some quick run on 03-13-55 and the haste value fall down to the 160-180 range. I guess the high value on 00-17-54 came from the fact that you are generating a lot of RP and the haste allow you to dump one more DC every now and then.

seems you got the wrong priority.

I am bothered by some inconsistencies I have noticed on these forums. I have accepted the blood stat weights str=2.89, arp=2.75, hit=2.51(before cap), exp=2.47(before cap), crit=1.57, haste=1.5 and so on. With the assumption that these are correct and used by programs that spit out BiS gear choices, why are the BiS tables from the first page of this thread recommending we use any other gem then +20str? It does not make sense to use +10str10shit gems when the 10 hit you gain doesn't outweight the 10str you lose. Can someone comment on this please.

Another topic I would like to address is the use of meta gems. Right now the accepted dps meta gem is 21crit3%crit dmg increase. Again refering to the stats the 21crit rating is worth 21*1.57=32.97. Ignore the 3% dmg increase for now. To activate the gem we must use 2 blue gems in place of the red gems we would use. This results in a loss of 20str (assume you would use 10str15stam gems, which you would). The loss of 20str amounts to a loss in stat weight of 20*2.89=57.8. Therefore, the 3% increase in crit dmg must be equal to or higher than 57.8-32.97=24.83. Does anyone know if this is the case? If it isn't the case then we should be ignoring meta gem slots all together and geming for red only. It would also place non-meta helms above meta helms.

The topic of str vs. hit and str vs. exp has been discussed ad nauseum in this thread and the dps threads. Theoretically speaking, Str will increase your overall average dps. However if you are not hit or expertise capped, adding hit or exp will reduce the variance in your dps performance. You are essentially trading higher possible dps for a more consistent dps number. Some people prefer to be hit/exp capped, so there are settings in the optimizer for that, and gear sets taking that into account.

The general consensus reached in this thread is that the accepted meta gem for DKs is now Relentless Earthsiege. The 21crit diamond used to be BiS before 3.2 for JCs who could use prismatic dragon's eyes. If you use the optimizer, or refer to the updated OP, you will see that RED is now the accepted meta, usually activated with a Nightmare Tear.

I'm posting on my phone so don't have access to the program right now, but I would imagine it suggests the etched orange gems when used in yellow sockets, where 10str+10hit+socket bonus is greater than ignoring the bonus and gemming red gems.

Failing that I might just have forgotten to add nightmare tears when running the program. I'll check tomorrow.

Zerack: can you confirm the program is not currently adding in expertise from racial traits? It doesn't seem to be doing so.

I've also had issues when adding JC gems, to the point where I'm having to put the professions down as BS/LW. Every time I add a JC gem it bumps the calculation time up from a couple of minutes to several hours.

Regarding further progress in the OP, this is where I'm at:

To do

• Re-do the T9 sets for Blood to add in 4pcT9 (still need accurate weights for the bonuses, but it seems 4pc is optimal)
• Change the Alliance cloak from Garrosh's to Varian's

Info I need to do everything else

• Stat weights for Unholy, including Tier 9 set bonuses
• Stat weights for Frost 2h, including Tier 9 set bonuses (is this even still a viable spec?)
• Stat weights for DW, including Tier 9 set bonuses
• Info on Sigils -- is the OP still correct here or have new Sigils come in?

I will say that the Blood Elf race does not appear to be working, it seems to inherit the traits of the class you had selected before it. As an example if I ran a sim as a Human and then selected the race of Blood Elf my character is still treated as a human for the expertise racial. I tend to just run my sims as a Troll or any other neutral race to get appropriate values and it works fine.

Just run your sims without professions. I don't think it is very hard to look at your set bonuses and then the stat weights to see if there are any bonuses in particular worth gemming for in the first place, and certainly it isn't an issue to see what gems you should place in BS sockets.