Thanks alot for clearing that up Quetz, I suspected something like that due to that 3% has always seemed kinda hard to calculate specifically, but confirmation is always better to put my mind at ease

How does the new Darkmoon Card: Death stack up against Bandit's Insignia? The 85 crit is less in stat weight than the 190 AP on the insignia but I am seeing people claim that Black Ice is effecting the death card's proc. Would the extra 10% damage from Black Ice make up for the lower stat weight? The death card also has ~250 higher low end damage than the insignia. I don't have a death card so I can't test for myself to verify if Black Ice effects the card's damage.

T7 bonus currently is worth 150-300 DPS for frost/unholy. Napkin math:
Which will be 75-150 extra DPS once the RP gain is halved in 3.1.2.

What spec are you? The T7 set bonuses are negligible for blood (worth 10 RP every 20 seconds). 2p T8 will benefit blood, but 4p t7 is still stronger than 2p t8 for frost/unholy.

My gut feeling is, when the changes go live, the 100++ STR from BiS gears (including ilvl 239) will outdo the 150-ish dps gain from using 4p t7, even for frost/unholy. Someone needs to crunch the number then, as rawr refuses to load my armory x.x

Using 0/10/61 currently. So I suppose I should stick with T7.5. Or spec blood and get T8.0. But I've been unholy since release and I've always loved it so I don't really like the idea of respeccing. I find the rotations used for blood to be to rigid to be fun.

1 little thing that is confusing in your Ulduar table:

"Cloak Drape of the Skyborn --- Same ---- [Drape of the Faceless General] ---- Same"

is the "2nd Same" refering to the The DotFG or DotS ?

As I understood the table the "same" always refers to the previous called item - so DotFG.
But it seems this isn't fully constant, in some cases it doesn't match.

The second same refers to the item immediately to the left of it, in this case DotFG. I guess I could make that clearer though.

As for dual wield, I'd really need to brush up my knowledge before doing a build as I haven't been that spec for quite a while. That's one area where we could use some input from the guys playing the spec I think, as it's more of a niche build now compared to a couple of patches ago.

I'm switching from Unholy to Frost and am wondering if Grim Toll wouldn't be a better choice than Bandit's Insignia. I understand that 6 months from now, all of that hit will more than likely be a waste with all of the hit available in Ulduar's other pieces.

But in the meantime, if one can put together a reasonable set utilizing Grim Toll, doesn't the proc from GT put it ahead of Bandit's? Or am I totally underestimating the nuke proc from Bandit's? When I normalize the Arp of GT, even lowballing it and saying its up 10%, that would be 82 hit and 61 Arp, a pretty significant number for anyone Blood or Frost.

What am I forgetting here?

Grim Toll is pretty good for Frost if you can use the hit, yeah. I honestly don't even know how great Bandit's is for Frost, but the Ulduar trinkets are mostly pretty lacklustre.

Mjolnir Runestone is possibly BiS for Frost, but I'm not totally sure on that so I just left it the same as T7 for the time being.

I imagine the bandit's insignia is at least as good for Frost as Unholy, if not better. Rage of Rivendare seems to affect the proc, so I think Tundra Stalker would too.

I'm fairly sure the 29 more Str plus the red instead of yellow socket makes up for not having ArP, especially considering how much other ArP stuff is in Ulduar.