I just used it tonight in ToC and it seemed to do fine, there were a few times where it showed my frost fever dropping to a lower atk power for no apparent reason (unless in inadvertently refreshed it). But I didn't see that it had too much trouble keeping up with mob swapping, although this is my first time using it. I'll have to try to edit the lines you mentioned to fiddle with it some. Fun to see what your max atk power is with all of your procs going off, and better than trying to get power auras to work properly.

Thanks

Perhaps a more pertinent consideration is not the duration you can't hit the bosses in ICC, but the duration you can. Yes there's target switching in Sindragosa for example, but the length of time you're DPSing the boss when she's on the ground is more than 1 full rotation, as is the length of time you're DPSing the ice blocks.

Anyone else just simply hate blood? Or maybe i just suck at it.

I just received a justicebringer in a ToC PUG tonite and needless to say i was ecstatic.

So i go and respec/glyph and all that fancy stuff, just to find i really hate blood as a dps spec (coming from DW frost).

It is just so dam clunky, watching procs for GoD max damage, (i have tellmewhen addon for this) starting rotations with death strikes to get ABOM up and running first. Then you get into DRW.....this is the part that really bothers me. Its COUNTERINTUITIVE to GoD in the way stuff works! We all know with GoD the point is to keep diseases at there max ticking potential by tracking buffs/procs, but with DRW we have to reapply diseases anyway as soon as we pop it!

I have 4 piece T9 and really want to take advantage GoD and disease uptime, but with having to refresh diseases with DRW anyways its just so dam frustrating....im seriously considering just going back to frost with my Ony welfare weapons, and throwing a stoneskin gargoyle on my justicebringer for my tank set....as sad as that sounds.

I really cannot wait for 3.3 so i can just go unholy already /sigh

Anyone else fell like this about blood dps? Maybe its because ive been unholy (when reaping was in the rotation) most of my dps career that blood just feels awkward as well /shrug

If anyone could give me some tips i don't already know about optimum DRW+GoD rotations id greatly appreciate it. I have read all of the stickies here as well as the boys at Ensidia's guide. Im just not "feeling" blood.

I have yet to raid as blood, just just messing around on the boss target dummy i cannot surpass 4k dps (over 3 million damage done, good sample size). Hell, i can sustain 4300 on the same target dummy as DW frost with the same amount of damage done (around 3 million to keep RNG at bay). I just honestly figured i would surpass frost even on the dummies. My ArP might be a bit low (25%) and i do not have a grim toll or mjolnir, that might make a difference to be sure, getting soft capped on ArP.

For example tonite in ToC, i did 5900 on beasts, 6600 on jaraxxus, around 7k on faction champs (was a pug, we kept wiping on twins lawl) but i just cant see doing that same damage as blood.

Ok i have ranted on too long lol. Here is a link to my armory, im 6 triumph away from virulence, will have that tomorrow. All of my gear is from pug's, ive been unguilded for months, i know i need a new ring (expertise, gotta keep that for a bit) as well as a cloak with not haste on it.....but otherwise i feel like im fairly solid considering all my gear is from pug's/vendors.

The World of Warcraft Armory

Basically what are the numbers i SHOULD be doing on each ToC fight in this gear, so i can set a benchmark for my blood dps spec.

A few things, your dps numbers are never a "should be", as everyones gear and raid makeup is different. If you won the fights in a pug, you're obviously doing something right. For DRW, yes, you want to apply your diseases as soon as you pop it, but only the first time it comes up. If after that, your atk power is lower than your first set of diseases, its not really beneficial to re-apply them at a lower power, just for DRW. In the long run you are better off to pop it and let it do its job of mirroring your HS>DS>DC priorities.

If you read up only a few posts, and check out the Bleeding Hearts mob that we've been discussing, it monitors your total attack power, and creates a scale based on your minimum and maximum, after it's seen it during a fight. For example, my baseline started at about 6k in regular gear, no buffs. Once raidbuffed, the bar expanded with all the trinket procs, and peaked at about 11700. If you start your rotation as a few people here have already said, with any on-use trinkets, DS, a few heart strikes, then Hysteria (Cast on yourself w a macro)+DRW, then apply diseases, you'll be fine. I open with DS>HS>HS>DS>BT>HS>DRW+Hysteria>ERW, and at that point all of my procs are up and im at a comfortable level to drop diseases, and all of my runes are avaliable.

Any new rotation seems clunky the first time you use it, and blood is no different.

**Edited to cut down quote size, sorry**

Hello there, i wondered if we could just go on with 4p T9 although there will be a nerf on it ? (frost fever won't crit anymore)
I mean for a blood spec ofcourse.
Or will it be better to focus on 2p T9 + arpen items + trinket arpen ?

I haven't seen any discussions about it.



(sorry if my english is not that good btw, not my first language)

4pT9 will likely be dropped for 2pT10 as soon as possible because of how well they work together. ArPen as usual will be tossed back and forth with Strength and as such should be checked with Rawr or a simulator to truly know how effective it will be for you.

I'm not so sure that GoDD would even be better with the target switching and DPS pauses. If the switches and pauses are long enough to reset ICDs and CDs or a tracker is used for them to help sync them up it's still possible to roll buffed diseases at only a slight DPS loss. One could argue that GoDD remains at full strength but they would be wrong, target switching and forced pauses should result in more lost DCs than any other attack since they're the lowest on the priority in any rotation. For unholy users the primary DPS benifit might be the rolling but for blood the extra GCDs are also a significant DPS gain, one so large the glyph was being considered long before the rolling mechanic was even discovered. Interupts will reduce the number of gained GCDs to be sure but it's not as if GoDD is at full strenght in interupted DPS either.

For glyph of disease from what I have read during this topic thread I have come to the conclusion that the following the best opening rotation, however it seems people are contradicting each other is it possible for us to come to a consensus as to what is recommended?

DS, HS, HS, HORN, GHOUL, IT, PS, HYSTERIA, DRW, HS, HS, HS, HS, DS, ERW, HS, HS, HS, PEST.

In regards to Death Strike I make this the top priority whenever a frost and unholy rune become available to gain Death Runes, This the only exception otherwise I am Heart Striking all the time, And whenever the other 2 options are on cool down I am Death Coiling or am I looking at this wrong?

There has been lots of discussion regarding diseases that it appears there has not been a solid answer I can find,
For example if I have full buffs which are about to expire and 10 seconds left on my diseases should I be refreshing my diseases, or alternatively just refreshing them when they are about to expire?

You apply your diseases when you are fully buffed with procs and then roll them for the rest of the fight, it's literally that simple.

This is certainly true for forced pauses, but for forced switches where the new target will be out of pest range you'll be able to get off a few DCs while in transit to the new target. As mentioned above it's probably going to be boss specific as to which is better.

There have been comments regarding gemming in Rawr in the DPSDK thread. I too had posted a question and Bloody_sorcerer did a good job explaining why exactly we see this >here<.