• Darkside

I think it depends a lot on the methodology and composition of your raid group. If you tend to clump all the adds around the melee and just burn them down, Virulence will likely win out. If you tend to let them spread out and just avoid the novas, you're probably better off with Awareness. If you are heavy on AoE, Awareness, light Virulence etc. etc. So far the data indicates that Virulence is better for nearly all people, but like you said, you can make Awareness work.

Taking the thread in a slightly different direction, I wanted to share a macro that I've been using for a while now that's helped improve my AoE dps.

This will cast Howling Blast on your mouseover target if you have one and defaults to your primary target if you aren't mousing over anything. I found it especially helpful for heroic Anub since very often the 2-3 of the adds will be outside the HB damage radius if Anub is used as the primary target. While a focus macro can be used for similar effect, I found this to be easier in practice as it removes the hassle of setting your focus each time a new wave spawns. I simply rest my mouse over the add clump and the macro does the rest. It also works well for fights like Jarraxxus, when you want to center the HB radius on the center of the infernal clump without disrupting your cycle on the boss.

<XI|> if your dog barks do you debate the philosophical reason behind him barking
<XI|> no
<XI|> you say shut up idiot

 

MikeMo

What kind of DPS are you typically seeing as Frost on Anub? I originally tried to stick with Frost for the fight but found my DPS to be very lacking so I made my offspec Unholy aoe (which I've really grown to love for some fights). I guess it wouldn't be that great for getting adds down but if you are in a guild that isn't having problems with adds it may not matter and being DW frost for the leeching swarm phase would be very nice indeed.

And thanks for the macro, that looks like it will be rather handy.

 

Valtiel

WMO Frost DKs

seems like a good place to start. Not that much behind UH on HM apparently.

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halfpint

*removed, missed previous statement.

 

• Darkside

I'd say that World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis is much better than WoL, if only because of it's much larger sample size.

And yes, you're going to have a very difficult time competing with Unholy DKs, they will almost always beat you.

<XI|> if your dog barks do you debate the philosophical reason behind him barking
<XI|> no
<XI|> you say shut up idiot

 

MikeMo

I was asking Darkside for his personal numbers. I run Unholy aoe as my offspec simply because I wasn't seeing even remotely close to the personal numbers I was seeing some DK's getting as Unholy so I built an Unholy set/spec and my damage went up significantly (2000-3000+).

I also don't trust WMO since hardly anybody uses it any longer and most of their ladders are filled with corrupted logs that shorten fights. Not to mention the site only wants to work a fraction of the time. WoL is a much better place to find good fights anyway despite it's filtering/search limitations.

 

• Darkside

I should also mention that the spec I use for Anub deviates from the typical Unholy-subtree spec. I've found that this spec: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft works better because of the very large boost in AoE damage you receive from the extra attack power and the extra 5% crit. Along with this, I also glyph DnD, since the 20% boost in it's damage is worth way more than an extra 10 RP on every IT for this fight.

<XI|> if your dog barks do you debate the philosophical reason behind him barking
<XI|> no
<XI|> you say shut up idiot

 

Raptør

Currently DW frost (GoD) competes with 2h UH, and with the nerf to our 4p T9 (I'm assuming it hurts GoD more than 2h UH) and buff to SS; what are peoples thoughts on competitiveness for maximum dps between the two specs come next patch?

 

grimLox

@ Raptor : They are not actually nerfing our t9 so to speak, they are redesigning our Glyph of IT so that it increases the damage from FF by 20% instead of granting additional RP, therefore they are simply balancing. From what I have read and seen I don't see any reason why DW Frost will be any less competitive then it is now.

 

Valtiel

Ironically WMO numbers are about half of the WoL numbers. But yes, I'd use WoL over WMO too - I just didn't know they're putting up rankings now. Excellent.

Yet, Darkside, while UH's dominance is certain, Frost isn't THAT much behind. It's less then a 10% dps difference; the reason you seen an army of 12k UH dps and a smaller number of 11700 dps frost ones is that UH aoe is on demand, while probably those numbers for Frost require some solid luck with Ryme.

That said, Anub Hard is a fight that actually does some justice to Frost.

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Valtiel

Where? On which fight?

I'm pleased with Frost DW performance, the single target dps is very solid, but in no way it compared to UH on any fight of Coliseum at least.

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Kaveli

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