During attempts on GV hardmode last night in 25 I was doing fairly well ~5500-5700 dps with standard 53/18 BP double disease rotation but was curious as to how ITx6 in UP would do considering the new changes and nerfing of FS damage. I was happily surprised that my DPS went up by ~200-300 (#3 on GV, top melee though the rogues were interrupting) when using this spec:

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deat...&version=10192

What lead me away from standard 53/18 was Necrosis and BCB were *always* giving me less than 1% DPS per point (Necrosis usually ~3.5%, BCB ~2-2.5%) and I was really unhappy with having to stick in BP given all the excellent sources of RP soaking in the current raid content. I expected this spec/rotation to perform much worse, and ESPECIALLY didnt expect it to outperform the standard rotation and spec going around these forums.

I suppose I could chaulk part of the difference up to me being 'better' at the itx6 rotation than the standard diseases > OB spam priority in BP, but its honestly pretty boring and slow in a BP rotation and as long as you're EXP/HIT capped very much the same each time excluding Rime/KM priority....but I really do think that there is something to be said for this 'new' itx6 rotation and spec.

Definitely not going to win the sim wars by any stretch of the imagination but I figured I'd post it considering my good fortune. Unfortunately this spec/rotation changes the stat weights around because ArP is hardly useful and you want tons of crit and AP for your spells and FS.

For those who are unfamiliar with ITx6 rotation you can check out my vid from last patch:

Arioch ITx6 Machine Gun Rotation By Erekose - World of Warcraft Movies

edit: apologies for not being able to post any parse information, hopefully will be able to in the next week or so.

I did some testings for this since I did not believe that with a GoD-Specc you just need to get 5% hit. Results were kind of what I was expecting:

111 Pestilences
100 landed
11 miss
misschance: 9.909%

Not actually accurate because of the low quantity, but it shows in which direction this goes.
I did the testing on the boss dummy with 183 hit rating (5,58% melee and 6,98% spell), putting of some of my gear.

I don't know whether this is taken into account when calculating the EP Value of the spellhit-cap but a single pestilence miss can screw our whole rotation and has a major impact on our dps.
It's not just a gcd that we get pushed back in our rotation like it is with expertise. It means, that we need to built up our whole rotation including to double apply our diseases and so on.

As stated it's not very hard to get the spellhit-cap with the current ulduar/coliseum gear without losing too many important stats.

Im just curious if there is a DW BIS thread anywhere?

Ive seen several UH/BLOOD/2H FROST BIS charts but no DW BIS charts. Anyone know where one might be? =D

Erekose while in a perfect world ITx6 might be able to keep up in RP heavy environments with the BP rotations I find it hard to believe the itemization for it will continue to exist. Blizz seems to be pushing ArP, as it is rather overflowing on gear, and I don't know if the itemization for an ITx6 build would persist. I'd view it as the problem SS UH had/has, where it just doesn't scale well enough with the provided gear, and in top end gear starts to (or now with the nerfs has) fall behind.

Now, there is the possibility it won't be outscaled sufficiently enough to make ITx6 too much weaker in WotLK, however I think it would need to be tested, and I'm not sure how you'd do that as last I checked RP soaking wasn't something the sim handled all that well. Might want to be something to keep note of, but I just don't see it being able to sustain similar damage as you'd have to take subpar peices or get gear for it that isn't quite right.

AP 100

Strength 261

Agility 114

Crit 144

Haste 126

Armor Pen 185

Expertise 347

Hit 388

Spell Hit 120

Weapon DPS 691

Weapon Speed 36029

2T8 12000

4T8 13076

2T9 26615

Based on this stat table, I was wondering how much hit(8%) and expertise(26) are worth AFTER the cap.
I have been told that after hitting expertise cap, its weight drops significantly. What do you guys think?

@wizkhalifa
Just THINK for a second what the expertise softcap really is. If you just think about it you should have the answer yourself.

What does expertise do ?
Why do we go for 26 expertise ?
What happens if I'm below ?
What happens if I'm above that ?

As for the value of hitrating after the special softcap, it should be in the lists of numbers we have here. It's at the spellhitrating part.

@skullxlord
Not really sure if i understood what you meant, but if you use that macro before the last obliterate, You will use a deathrune for UA, then convert another deathrune, and then cancel the deathrune with the cancelaura.

You are left with a blood and deathrune.

That macro you have only works right before you do the double blood strikes, or right AFTER the last obliterate of the rotation.

Is expertise worth geming? Epic expertise gem is 20 expertise rating which equals around 2.5 expertise. Strength gem is +20. Isn't 20 Strength of greater value then 2.5 expertise or are you guys talking about expertise rating? Because expertise looks to not stack up to strength gems if you compare the values of the gems.

If Expertise is worth 347, wouldn't expertise rating be worth 43.375 and epic gems value expertise rating equal to strength. Maybe I am just confused. I hate when they added the rating system, so confusing at times.

If you guys meant expertise and not expertise rating, I would suggest basing your math on expertise rating since gems value 1 expertise rating equal to 1 strength. This also includes ArP rating, Crit rating, Haste rating, and Hit rating which are all 1 to 1 with strength on gems.

Epic Gem Scores
Strength 261
Attack Power 200 (Epic AP Gem is 40 so 100x2)
Agility 114
Expertise Rating 43.375
ArP Rating 26.429
Special Hit Rating 11.833
Crit Rating 6.521
Haste Rating 3.843
Spell Hit Rating 3.66
White Hit Rating 3.507

All the epic gems = 20 rating (Expertise, ArP, Hit, Crit, and Haste) and 20 stats (Strength and Agility) except Attack Power which is 40.

So is this correct? Would Strength still be the greatest gem for us Death Knights?

From Wowwiki 32.79 Hit rating = 1% Hit, 32.79 Haste rating = 1% Haste, 45.91 Crit rating = 1% Crit, 8.2 Expertise rating = 1 Expertise, and 12.31 ArP Rating = 1 ArP, Hopefully I did my math correctly since I am tired.

The values in the chart are obviously ratings

Unless you think that 2 AP is better than 1% hit.

Which means it might be worth gemming expertise before you reach 26 expertise.

Anyone tried new simulator? I've ran EP calculation yesterday in a new simulator (1.0.2.1 or something) and it showed spell hit as 4th best stat with value of 200, only str, melee hit and expertise were better. Is this me doing something wrong or is it simulator or is it really true?

It's possible it's calculating spell hit as both spell hit and melee hit above the softcap(which'd be correct). I'm honestly surprised if it works out to be above arpen in effectiveness though. I could see it being above crit and haste, but above Arpen?

Arpen was exactly 200 too. So according to my sim tests arpen = spell hit. Haste and crit were close to values in OP, not much changed.