Recount doesn't separate shadow from physical. Thats why you're getting funny numbers with SS.

Using the aforementioned spec for current gear levels, I get the following stat weights:

AttackPower	1
Strength	3.02
Agility	1.49
CritRating	2.13
HasteRating	2.32
ArmorPenetrationRating	1.9
ExpertiseRating	0.25
BeforeMeleeHitCap<8%	1.59
SpellHitRating	1.22
WeaponDPS	6.67
WeaponSpeed	380.95

• Agility, crit, and WeaponDPS all down, about as much as expected.
• ArP down slightly, but not a ton, once again, as expected.
• Haste jumped a lot, and I can't quite explain it. Some increase is expected, of course, but near doubling in value? Worth more then it is now? That doesn't seem right.
• Not sure what hit is doing, but I'm assuming that's a sim issue.

I'll try to get some more accurate numbers for haste/hit, as soon as I can identify what the issue with those two numbers are. Everything else seems accurate and logical, however.

Currently working on the weights for the end-of-ICC spec/gear, and should have those momentarily.

If anyone can figure out the cut-off point for when to take Reaping and when to max out BA, it would be much appreciated, as I those are the other two points of gear I would like to get stat weights for.

What set bonuses were you using for these?

At the moment I'm getting similar numbers with 2 piece/4piece t9. Slightly different spec 17/0/54
0/3 Morbidity 5/5 BA and Necrosis is giving best single target so far.

AttackPower	1
Strength	3.11
Agility	1.37
CritRating	2.00
HasteRating	2.13
ArmorPenetrationRating	1.78
ExpertiseRating	1.21
BeforeMeleeHitCap<8%	2.86
SpellHitRating	1.04

Tooltips usually take a client patch to change. The only thing that happened is the shadow part cannot crit anymore, so the tooltip shouldn't need to be changed.


Someone mentioned to me that Spell Penetration is affecting magic damage on bosses, which it hasn't done since Molten Core to my knowledge. The person told me they tested some magic damage with and without Curse of Elements on the test Dummy and he saw an increase. I don't have an 80 Warlock to test on the dummy (which is always level 83).


e: I asked this here since DKs do lots of magic damage, and bosses don't have holy resistance.

Expertise rating seems too low, which may be throwing other weights off.

Pretty much confirming everything on the last page.

In my gear, mostly HToC25, Reaping is no longer worth it. I am getting the previously mentioned spec, Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft , to be the highest for single target.

Not everyone will want to use their dual spec for an AoE DPS spec, so 2 out of Conviction into Morbidity will be a better 'general' spec.

GoD only comes back in pretty much the best gear possible (including Shadowmourne) and AoE.

In better gear, Reaping once again becomes worth it, and dropping points out of Dark Conviction is the way to go, unless you want a separate spec for AoE and single target DPS.

Was running some sims as well to try it out in my current gear - 258/245 with 264 MH, and current 17/0/54 (current spec) came out as 90 dps below your 15/0/56, curernt 17/0/64 with GoD as ~300 lower dps. What sort of stats did you use to make GoD come that much closer?

I also found this curious little thing though, for some reason the sim has listed
Pestilence| 0 | 0| 1| 100| 0| 0| 0|
without using GoD. There's only one there, but I'm still finding that quite odd.

I'm also getting a really weird number for weapon speed value:
WeaponSpeed | 183.33
Could this be because I'm using a 3.4 weapon currently?


Also tried some simming in a regular 51/0/20 spec with some people here still claiming blood is superior for single target, but I keep getting it ~500 dps below 15/0/56. Is there something about blood dps the sim doesn't sim accurately, which would account for the differences in dps, or is everybody just assuming blood is better without having actually tested it?

So if GoDD seems to stay would that mean the rotation would look like: IT-PS-BSx2-SS / SSx3 / Repeat from start...

If so,

Will there need to be 2 full points in epidemic? From my tests one point seems to cut it with the above rotation.


I personally favor the above rotation over the GoD one as I had trouble on any movement fights with diseases reapplication.

Edit: This wasnt the case as far as epidimic. 2 points is needed. I also noticed that DC isnt utilized as much with the above rotation, and with the nerf to SS, It leaves us a bit crippled imo.

Anyone one come up with any better rotations utilizing GoDD?

A level 83 does indeed have 15 resistance against level 80 player attacks - but it can't be reduced by any amount of Spell Penetration - or couldn't.

If it can be reduced though he should be seeing 75*(15/415) = 2.7% increase on his magical damage.

And if this does indeed work - negative Resistance should be possible with sufficient SPen.

This might seem like a silly comment, but doesn't Curse of Elements also increase magic damage taken by the target by 13%? If so, did the person who calculated the magic damage increase take this into account?

Since we no longer get reaping, it means you have 2x BS instead of the 3rd SS in your second rune set.