What about unholy blight? I grew tierd of seeing tics for 40 so I took 1 pt in morbidity? Am I missing something here about unholy blight?

Unholy Blight is 10% of your DC's damage. Morbidity is 5% per point.

Regarding the BiS lists, I can see the logic in not having a 10 man only list, but how about a 'only normal modes' list? The current 'non-heroics' list only disregards 25 man heroic loot, but not 10 man heroic loot.

So during shitty trash and bosses which are on farm (Marrowgar, Deathwhisper etc...) my fellow DK uses a cast sequence macro as he cant be arsed.

He uses this;

#showtooltip
/startattack
/castsequence reset=2 Plague Strike, Icy Touch, Blood Strike, Blood Strike, Scourge Strike
/use [@pettarget,harm] Claw
/cast !Rune Strike
/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()

I was just wondering what your thoughts are on it? Is it a serious no no, or could you actually get away with it and do pretty much as the same dps as someone who keybound everything? Ultimately I guess the main factor is latency, but for the purpose of the arguement lets say they are both at the same latency.

The Unholy DPS priority system is not rocket surgery. No, there is no way to get even close to the same DPS using a castsequence-macro, since RP-generation / rune cooldown resets don't follow a perfect order (i.e. you don't always have x RP every y seconds / minutes). Since I figure that most posts asking for castsequence-macros have been shitheaped there actually is a realistic chance that you searched the thread and didn't find anything - so let it be said once and for all: castsequence macros suck and cannot possibly perform even close to good play. If your guildmate can't be bothered to press 5 buttons in an order that even a newborn chimpanzee could manage you might want to look for a new one. Something being "on farm" usually implies that it dies faster, not that it dies slower because people think they can be lazy and / or stupid.

Any DK that can't be bothered to at least use Pestilence on trash to speed things up is a pretty terrible player.

Would using Blood Tap at the end of your first rotation would add or lose dps? I am reaping Unholy spec'd right now. I have only tried it once last night in ICC25 but couldn't tell a difference in the dps. My rotation with it thrown in would go as

PS - IT - BS - BS - SS - DC - BT - SS
SS - BS - SS - DC - BS - PS - IT

I know some people use Blood Tap to recast Boneshield so its a free cast and I haven't done or tried that before because most of the ICC fights you move around so much you can cast it while running.

I've stated a few times that from a logical perspective it's most efficient to use BT to move your death rune SS one rotation up. That way you gain one SS every two minutes instead of 2 BS.

So basically your initial rotation becomes
PS-IT-BS-BT/SS-SS
SS-SS-BS-BS

You continue with
PS-IT-SS-SS
SS-SS-BS-BS

until the BT cooldown is up again and switch back to
PS-IT-SS-SS
SS-SS-BS-BT/SS

and then again until the next BT
PS-IT-SS-BS-BS
SS-SS-SS

This exploits the fact that if you use BT when you just used BS (so that one death rune is on CD) and your second blood rune is up, the death rune CD is reset and you blood rune turns into a death rune, such that you have two death runes to use immediately.

As for Bone Shield: If you cast it right at the start of the encounter, most encounters in ICC are either dead before the 5 minutes have passed or there is some time during the encounter where you can't dps anyways and just recast the shield then.

Hey Guys, i just wanted to ask, if anybody is able to tell me, why ARP-Rating is scaling so high, allready when i'm at ca. 550 ARP...
Here are my Statweights:

EP AttackPower	1 (0,66 DPS/per AP)
EP Strength	2,91
EP Agility	1,67
EP CritRating	2,48
EP HasteEstimated	2,42
EP HasteRating1	2,45
EP ArmorPenetrationRating	2,91
EP ExpertiseRating	2
BeforeMeleeHitCap<8%	4,18
EP SpellHitRating	0,68
EP WeaponDPS	7,12
EP WeaponSpeed	242,42
EP 2T9	122,58
EP 4T9	627,42
EP 2T10	412,9
EP 4T10	580,65
EP DeathbringersWill	435,38
EP DeathbringersWillHeroic	504,62
EP DeathChoice	415,38
EP DeathChoiceHeroic	472,31

Or can anybody help me and tell, whats wrong with my spreadsheet?


btw: is a fix for the Putricide-Trinket incoming, so it will be better?

Gargoyle is one of the only cooldowns available as an unholy death knight which makes it that much more important, and when your main cooldown loses a large amount of damage due to it using its melee attacks on the target, it can be detrimental to your overall dps. Fortunately, there is a way to avoid your gargoyle from being summoned in melee range which allows it to cast freely and reach its fullest potential with no loss to your own personal dps.

When you actually summon the gargoyle, you will notice it is actually flown down about 10-15 yards in front of you. SO, if you were to turn around 180 degrees and summon it then, it will actually fly down a good distance behind you, and since you should be behind the boss in the first place, this puts it at a perfect ranged position far from melee range. I have personally tested this several times and in each case it hasn't used a single melee attack on the target.

I noted an update from yesterday (08/02) which said the following

"Additional Bryntroll nerf noted - Bryntroll FAQ question removed as SE/CM is (almost) always superior."

I have looked at bluepost trackers as well as read through the recent posts but can't find any additional nerfs to Bryntoll. Or is it referring to the nerf which came a few weeks ago?

That explains it...I was wracking my brains out this morning after reviewing our logs from last night.

Pre-nerf Saurfang:
Drain Life 97557 4.7 %

Post-nerf Saurfang:
Drain Life 58883 3.0 %

I'm seeing more and more Death Knights sporting the 12/0/59 Reaping build with 2 points in Morbidity and -2 in Dark conviction. Obviously this is better for aoe purposes, but considering the lower value of crit nowadays with the loss of 4pt9, how does the +10% death coil damage compare to +2% crit on single target? I'm thinking of trying it out. Thanks.

I simmed for my gear and it's a 40dps difference, so I went with 2/3 Morb.

Just running a quick sim with my gear shows a DPS loss of only 7 DPS switching to 2/3 Morbidity from 2/5 Dark Conviction. This is with 0 RP coming in from AMS/replenishment, so the actual DPS difference will be negligible.

It depends on how much crit you have to begin with. The value of crit tapers off the more of it you have and eventually they will pull even. I prefer morbidity simply due to its utility on aoe fights and high movement fights where I can dump death coils on the move to maximise GCD usage. For crit levels around ~1.1k and down, dark conviction is better on a patchwerk type encounter. All this is of course, assuming no RP, as mentioned above, coming in from revitalise/AMS etc.

That's not a problem at all. Gemming for hit is really ideal if you think about it. It's the strongest stat you can possibly gem in those slots. Three yellow slots (of which you have plenty) for Rigid Ambers, and you're done. Equipping weaker items with more hit on them only to go around and gem more strength isn't going to be better.

Gemming hit in itself is never a good thing. As itemlevel goes up, str goes up in a similar fashion. The trade off should never be str v hit (like it is when gemming), but more so hit v haste or hit v exp (for example). Unless you choose low level items because of their hit, then gemming hit isn't a good thing, but an unfortunate necessity.

Not exactly, if you're using gemming optimally then most of the time you're actually swapping the non-strength part of an orange gem in a yellow socket from crit or haste to hit rating when you'd still be going for the socket bonus anyway.

Looking at the BiS loot list, it seems that the expertise on the heroic 10+reg 25 loot excluding shadowmourne loot list has extremely low expertise. I know in the OP that expertise is not simmed high, but yesterday I ran a 2000 hr sim with 150 ms using my current gear (890 arpen, 17 expertise, 4pt10) and got the following weighings. I'm pretty confident that all my inputs are correct as I used Bllet's armory grabber (Armory Grabber for Kahorie's DK Simulator).
Here is my results, showing expertise at an unusually high level and crit rather low. Its also showing spell hit to be abnormally high but I'm not too worried about that.

EP AttackPower | 1 (0.69 DPS/per AP)
EP Strength | 3.04
EP Agility | 1.3
EP CritRating | 1.88
EP HasteEstimated | 1.74
EP HasteRating1 | 1.88
EP ArmorPenetrationRating | 2.61
EP ExpertiseRating | 2.9
BeforeMeleeHitCap<8% | 4.93
EP SpellHitRating | 4.35
EP WeaponDPS | 7.83
EP WeaponSpeed | 362.32
After spell hit cap | 0
EP 2T9 | 54.55
EP 4T9 | 380.3
EP 2T10 | 342.42
EP 4T10 | 425.76
| Template | 14-00-57
| Rotation | Unholy-Reaping
| Presence | Blood
| Sigil | Virulence
| RuneEnchant | FallenCrusader /
| Pet Calculation | True

That's interesting as I just got a PM from a trust-worthy person arguing expertise was being shown too high at the moment. It's a difficult thing to sort out, but I'll look into it.

Anyways, two Bryntroll notes: On top of the application of debuffs no longer having a chance to proc, Blood-Caked Blade no longer appears to as well. I'm not exactly sure how recent this change is or isn't, but I'm fairly positive it didn't coincide with the SS change, so it's more likely from the same time as the debuff change. Disheartening regardless. Secondly, the heroic version appears to have the same proc rate (2PPM, or ~11.333%) as the normal version, as expected.

Testing:

(Still hitting away at the dummy, but I figure this is a large enough sample size)

77/666 = 11.561%

Suffice is to say that, of the 277 weapons, Bryntroll heroic is the worst and of the 264 weapons, Bryntroll normal is the worst.

That makes sense because with reaping, we have alot of spare GCDs, thus we can afford to have out special attacks be parried as it does not consume a rune. I'm not quite sure since my sims for blood w/ GoD showed expertise to be abnormally high too (Probably due to rune misallignment from parries using GoD now that I think about it).