The answer to this posted a few pages back

It's really not hard to crunch these numbers yourself by taking the AEP values and figuring out the average buff provided.

222+ (.22 * (613 * 1.95)) = 485

Edit: This is assuming 251/258 gear, if you have the gear to crunch AEP at higher levels I'm guessing you can get a better trinket also, however if you have no luck and still have dark matter with full ilvl 277 gear it would be worth 523

There is really no point going after Mjolnir's, since the 5 man heroic Forge of Souls trinket is better anyway, but yeah. It's all more a matter of what's better for the gear you have and what all is available to you. You have to take into account what each trinket does for your gear setup, because in the long run, each trinket has different values dependent on how you've set your gear up.

I'm pretty sure the uptime on Scorpion has been proven to be inferior to Grim toll and Mjolnir actually, and the minor difference in stats doesnt make up for that.

I have been going through worldoflogs.com and checking out the damage parses from the top Unholy DKs on Deathbringer Saurfang. I found it interesting that the top damage dealers had 0 points in Necrosis or maybe 1-2 in it. They went for Morbidity/Reaping instead. I got curious about this because I was looking at my damage parses first and see that Deathcoil is my 3rd highest damage on single target fights whereas Necrosis is about 2.4% of my damage on Deathbringer Saurfang.

I was using the OP's spec. I feel like if I moved the points from Necrosis into 2/3 Morbidity and 3/3 Reaping like the following DKs did in these parses then I may have done much more damage. I'm going to test this next week and see how it plays out.

It seems to me that Morbidity/Reaping pulls ahead even on single target fights. See the damage parses for yourself of the top 5 Unholy DKs for that fight (not to mention the many more DKs after the top 5 doing the same thing).

World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis <---- Top DPS/Damage to Deathbringer Saurfang 25 man

Edit: Sorry I was going through the 10 man charts when I first looked, but the same things reflects in the 25 man parses for the majority of the Unholy DKs, no Necrosis.

Just because top parses do X or do Y does not make doing X or doing Y most optimal. There are several factors which go behind a top parse - RNG, gear, raid strategy, raid composition, professions, so on and so forth. Although, yes, talent choice does certainly matter, you can pick an inferior talent and still get the best parse, but that doesn't make that talent any less inferior. It just means that individual would have done even more damage if they had chosen the proper talent(s). It's like looking at a top parse, saying the guy is using Justicebringer and not Bryntroll, and thus Justicebringer must be the superior weapon!

Using top parses to justify a talent choice is simply flawed.

The fact is: Necrosis is superior to Morbidity on a single target.

If you wish to use parses...

It's not complex math, so actually use those parses properly and look at them to some depth: Top Unholy parse for Deathbringer. His auto-attack did 390836 damage (21.5% dps), meaning a point in Necrosis would have given him 15,633 damage (0.86% dps). His Death Coil + Unholy Blight did 223621 damage (12.3% dps) + 18536 (1% dps) = 242157 (13.3% dps). Thus a point of Morbidity was worth 12108 damage (0.665% dps).

Necrosis is superior, and the top parses confirm as much. Looking at the parses of others has its value, but only if you know how to properly analyze them, and what conclusions you can - and cannot - justifiably draw from them.

I'm not a math guy in any way and so that's why I brought these thoughts here. I understand that talent choices definitely don't make a top damage ranking. It seems odd that the majority of them do not have Necrosis though. The math concludes that Necrosis is better than Morbidity on single target. What about the points left behind that would possibly go into Reaping, the extra Scourge Strike + Morbidity would outweigh the damage gained from 5/5 Necrosis or no? (assuming that player went 0/5 Necrosis and 2/3 Morbidity + 3/3 Reaping)

As already said Morbidity is weaker than Necrosis on single target so my question is: why you hate so much Necrosis?

You are asking questions that have been fully tested and answered in either sims or plain math in the last 5-10 pages.

1 extra SS is not superior to 2 Blood Strikes + 3 talent points, until you get 2xT10. This has been simmed, and I believe it was even explained with maths a few pages back, if not feel free to do so yourself, it's not really hard.

Morbidity for single target purposes is not better than Necrosis, Consider has just explained it with pure math. You can not question that as it is Math 101 and cold hard facts.

Then WHY do people spec morbidity ?
Because they prefer that. Because the same math has proven that the points in necrosis only provide a mimimal dps gain (BUT A DPS GAIN AT THAT) on single target, whereas the 2 points in morbidity provide a large dps gain on AoE.
Some people, mostly in big guilds, have the luxury to spec for 2 dps specs. Other people keep a tank spec for 10 mans, offtanking 25 mans, heroics (you get a daily heroic 10 times as fast if you queue as tank) or simply for some pvp action.

On top of that most guilds have, definitely all top guilds, have all 4 bosses in ICC on farm. Their train of thought might be: What benefits clear speed (because clearing speed is what you're talking about when you have everything on farm) the most. A few thousand so extra DPS on trash, or 75 extra dps on the bosses.
I'd opt for the former.

As for why people take reaping, that could simply be preference as well. Being an Unholy DK since the beta of WotLK, one of the reasons I enjoyed unholy over blood and frost, was the fact you had a lot more free GCDs left. Maybe they do too.

Has anybody developed a model for runspeed on boots?
We loose about 20 AP for a 8% runspeed increase.

Should be worth it on Lady Deathwisper and could be worth it on Marrogwar and Gunship. Dont know the other encounters in ICC.

I've followed this thread from the beginning, but I have never posted because I never felt I had anything substantial to contribute. However last night I was running some sims with Kahories's and found a possible imrovement for single target dps.

I started with the 17/0/54 no Reaping and 5/5 Nec build. With that build my simmed dps with my current stats was 8369. I started moving points around to pickup Reaping. Most had negative results. Then I tried taking 2 points from BA and 1 from DC to get Reaping and to my suprise the simmed dps was 8460. Naturally I assumed I had input some information wrong so I went over it several times to check and recheck before giving it any credit. I could not find anything wrong. So I bring it here. Does anyone else get the same results with my current armory stats? If not are there any ideas what I may have done wrong with my simming?

I appologize in advance for any spelling or grammatical errors. I am posting from my phone during down time at work.

Edit: Typo