As well as the EP/range issues, it's less than a gain of 13 dps. If you look at the sim results, everything did (slightly) more damage on that second parse. Your gargoyle had a higher crit rate, for instance. Your ghoul somehow did an extra 200k damage the second sim. You had an increased number of Death Coils. A few more IT/PS (number wise, not damage wise, the latter of which is expected, of course, the first should be unchanged). So on.

A dps increase, perhaps, but certainly not 13 dps over 100 hours. If you accept your buffed BP+FF doing 400 more damage than your buffed BS, and then your buffed PS+IT is another 400ish damage, that's 0.00222 dps over 100 hours, or 2 dps in a five minute fight. The loss of EP from the boss for even a second, or the gain of ITing sooner easily wins out.

I disagree with this. I once did a test with a guildie of mine who was not convinced that keybinds was better than clicking. So I took him to a target dummy and using the same spec and rotation and no outside interferance, ran a 10 minutes parse. At the end, we had equal amounts of white hits (using same speed weapons) but I had more rune attacks and death coil attacks.

This is because when you click, you almost always activate the ability slightly slower than a person who keybinds, especially if they rapid fire the keybinds. Imagine if I use abilites 0.1 or even 0.05 seconds faster than you. That adds up to roughly 0.35 to 0.7 seconds in EACH rotation. After just 2 rotations, you lose a whole global cooldown. That GCD can be used for an extra deathcoil or horn of winter. This also affects run cooldowns as well. After about 10 to 12 rotations of being less than a 10th of a second behind a keybinder, you could potentially lose a whole set of runes from the added time lost.

It adds up.

Edit: Neffir beat me, but still, the point stands.

We're getting pretty far off-topic, but my guess is that clicking could give you almost equal performance to keybinds if everything goes well. Say a standard pull, you open with IT, then hit PS when you get to melee range, then BS, then SS, and so on. I use keybinds so for me it would be Alt-Q, Alt-E, Q, E. I'm sure for keybind users and competent clicker's it's basically the same thing. As soon as you've used one ability, you're ready with the next one in sequence, and when it's time to use it, the only difference is spamming a keyboard key vs. a mouse button.

The difference probably comes up when things *don't* go well. For example, if IT is resisted, it's really easy for me to shift my fingers slightly and hit it again. If I were using a mouse, I'd have to move the mouse over, make sure the pointer is over the right button, and click it. Time spent glancing down at the action bar is time not spent paying attention to what's going on in the fight, and my guess is that it's probably on the order of 1/10s slower to have to move to click a button unexpectedly than it is to just shift your fingers slightly to a new key.

The other time when I would expect clicking performance to be slightly worse is when you have to do something unusual that isn't part of your normal rotation, like interrupt a cast. If you have to move your mouse over the interrupt button and click it, I'm almost positive I can shift my finger over to the backquote key and mash it faster.

The main point I was trying to make is that there's no way that clicking vs. keybinds is going to make a 2000-3000 DPS difference. I could see on the order of 100 DPS averaged out over a long and complicated fight, but if your DPS is 2000 below what you think it should be, there's something else going on. There's no question in my mind that keybinds are better, I just don't think they're 2000 DPS better.

If you're behind by that much, I think it's time to log the fights, and compare your parses to the parses from people who are doing much better than you. If frost fever is the #2 source of damage for them, is it #2 for you? How does the damage from your SS hits compare to theirs? What fraction of your total damage comes from your ghoul and from your gargoyle, and how does it compare to theirs? In most cases if the ratios are all similar, someone's just doing better damage than you overall, often the difference is they just have better gear, or a better raid makeup. On the other hand, if Gargoyle makes up only 2% of your damage, but it's 5% of someone else's damage, they're probably doing something you're not to boost the gargoyle's damage.

Maybe that's something that could be added to the first post: "If everything goes well over the course of a typical single-target fight, your top 5 sources of damage should be melee: (about 20%), scourge strike (about 20%), death coil (about 10%)..."

ok so its as i originally thought and that stat weight is for after cap?


so it should read

T10 Content: Hit > Strength > ArP > Crit > Haste > (Expertise>27) > Agility ????