The shadow portion of Scourge Strike does not seem to be critting anymore as of today (yes, recount screenshot):



Edit: Too slow!

How much of a DPS nerf is the hotfix going to be?

I was just about to post that .

I modified the sim.
Fotm GoD spec with ToC items:

Before	10426
After	9409

That's about 10% less damage.
DC/IT/Ghoul glyphs are the top choice again.
New (ToC level with T10 bonuses) weights are:

AttackPower	1
Strength	3,02
Agility	1,3
CritRating	1,97
HasteRating	0,86
ArmorPenetrationRating	2
ExpertiseRating	1,56
BeforeMeleeHitCap<8%	3,33
SpellHitRating	0,85

Seems a bit extreme, but i'm sure other classes would have demanded change soon anyway.

Modified simulator is showing that we go back to our old ways. No Reaping. No Glyph of Disease on single target. A gain of about 60 DPS in my gear with these switches.

In better gear, both eventually come back into style.

Leather gear is now extremely unattractive for Unholy DKs. Arpen has dropped in value enough so that it is less than a 100 dps gain gemming it in the best of the best gear on a single target.

I'm getting Haste and Crit to be about the same level of EP. Crit has dropped a ton, which explains why the leather is now very undesirable.

Could you please show me that spec? I can not copy that with my results. 12-0-59 with max Necrosis is the top spec for me.

Anyone have an idea on the spec in response to this nerf?

Edit: Beat to the punch.

I originally just compared 3/3 Reaping 2/3 Morbidity 0/5 Necrosis to 0/3, 3/3, 2/5 in my current gear and got slightly higher results without Reaping. Loading in some ICC gear brought Reaping back into style. GoD, too!

GoD only gets about 30~ dps higher than Dark Death in the very best ICC gear.


I do get the highest DPS with 12/0/59. Necrosis seems to edge out Dark Conviction by about 10 dps.

Now with quickly optimized BiS lists: http://pastie.org/738441.txt

On the plus side, I had a song title ready for the thread and the inevitable. On the down side, didn't really see it coming a day after.

At any rate, so far, my findings are mirroring Daia, more or less. Expect a front post update tomorrow (or Saturday, pending work), as I figure how to frame some areas, and ensure all conclusions are completely accurate. That, and I'm not really in the mood to completely revamp the entire front page after having just done so, except this time nothing could be done in advance.

That aside, not much else to say. Dps will still be ahead of what it was last patch, simply behind what it was for the past 24 hours, although the loss of dps is the least of my concerns regarding this change.

did the scourge strike tooltip change accurately as well? Now says 60% + 576 physical

[20:39:25.956] Jonneh casts Scourge Strike on Fjola Lightbane
[20:39:26.031] Jonneh Scourge Strike Fjola Lightbane Absorb (15006)
[20:39:26.513] Jonneh Scourge Strike Fjola Lightbane Absorb (90582)
[20:39:31.648] Jonneh casts Scourge Strike on Fjola Lightbane
[20:39:31.666] Jonneh Scourge Strike Fjola Lightbane *14934*
[20:39:32.100] Jonneh Scourge Strike Fjola Lightbane *97190* (R: 4541)

It was nice while it lasted

Hardly surprising though really, but even so I think there could have been better solutions. How could they have failed to see this on the ptr and catch it then if its so unacceptable? The above paste is from one fight with insane buff available (Which has always done similar on WP), I suppose 20k double crits on normal targets is still on the high side.

Will have to wait and see where we stand after all is said and done!

Voicing my support here for your thread Consider, as I can't do so on the US forums. Nobody will listen, but it should still be said.