I didn't say it doesn't benefit from haste, I said it doesn't benefit from haste caps. Being refreshed 100% of the lime Lb scales with haste linearly, unlike, for example, Rj which gets additional ticks at certain levels.
I think it was explained earlier in this thread - reaching haste caps increases hot HPCT, which is very good in current GCD capped environment, but is not true for Lb, which never ticks fot its full HPCT value.
Spreadsheet might not not take this fact into account depending on how it calculates haste benefits - hence the unexpected results...

Took this from another thread which is from this website: [Cataclysm Beta] Haste and HoTs – A Quick Example � Type "H" For Heals

Edit: In the full article, it explains the HPS exactly as Hamlet said.

Technically - yes, increasing haste from 1248 to 1249 gives you about 0.74 seconds of free time every 10 seconds that you can use for casting other hots. This is true if you always manage to refresh Lb right before or during the last tick. In real raid situation, however, Lb rarely gets refreshed at exactry the right moment. You usually dont want for it to fall off so you will try to refresh when it is more convenient because you might be doing something else or GCD locked during the last tick.
The original question was whether it is worth it to try to reach haste caps beyond 1016, and I think gettng 14th Lb tick doesnt justify getting 200+ more haste rating at the cost of something else. You won't even always get benefit from this cap.

Has anyone done HM Dreamwalker on 10 man as a resto druid yet? We've always only run 1 healer in and 1 healer out, even on hard mode and it hasn't been a problem. I thought I would be ok with my build which skips out on HT/Nourish to pick up other talents as we are only doing 10's and I really don't like HT/Nourish from a comfort level standpoint as opposed to almost 100% crit rate on regrowth.

I couldn't do jack diddly on her in comparison to what I could do pre 4.0. Not even close. I did a bunch of math tonight and came to the conclusion that I *have* to use HT, even with my crit, RG doesn't hold a candle to HT even with a lower crit rate. When you factory hero, HT skyrockets.

Where I am curious and playing with combination is priority of HoT applications. It seems 100% pointless to bother with dropping WG on her as it seems to be a waste of a GCD. Lifebloom really seems to be the most important one. So it almost seems like the optimal set up is to start dropping LB on her as you fall out of the portals, and get LBx3+Rejuv up while making your way to the next portal, spam HT like it's going out of style and watch timers on the portal spawns and try to refresh LB+Rejuv before you pop in.

Thoughts? Unless I'm missing something on scale, it's going to be really hard to pull this off on a Druid period.

Do we know spell power coefficients for 4.0.1?

The ones in the spreadsheet should be accurate, they predict heal size in-game exactly. Don't think we have them in a post anywhere (except buried in one of the Balance threads when someone looked up the datamined ones from SimC).

Using the default values (stats/talents/other inputs), and ignoring mastery (affects all spells equally), I calculated a priority rotation for Dreamwalker based on HPET values:

Swiftmend > Rejuv >> Lifebloom > Regrowth (no hot on target) > Healing Touch = Regrowth (hot already up)

With the Regrowth HoT already on the target, Healing Touch and Regrowth are nearly the same HPET (HT won by 70 HPET). Lifebloom should be slow stacked and allowed to bloom on the third stack, unless the portals are about to go up, in which case you should refresh it and allow it to bloom while you are inside the portal. A competitive but inferior rotation is to immediately stack lifebloom up to two, and then slow stack the third stack, which may be worth it if the portals will be up in just over 12 seconds.

During Heroism, Healing Touch is much better than regrowth spam:

Swiftmend > Rejuv >> Lifebloom > Regrowth (no hot on target) > Healing Touch > Regrowth (hot already up)

I'll double check my math later tonight and post it if people are interested or in disagreement.

EDIT: Used TreeCalcs version 101019-1

EDIT2: I found a mistake and am now concluding that it is better to roll LB. I'll post the math as soon as I get a chance.

It depends on BL/Heroism timing. If you know, you have 3 spare minutes, use ToL, then use it again when BL/Heroism comes up. If you are not sure you do, use it only during BL/Heroism.

If Slourette's priority list is right, then I assume we should start with ToL (or without it if BL/Heroism is too close) , then Rejuv+Swiftmend, LBx1 followed by NS+HT macro, spam HT or RG while slow rolling Rejuvs and LBs, letting LB bloom on 3 stacks and using Swiftmend every time it comes off cd. We should also try to stack LBx3 before going into portals and before leaving tree form. During BL/Heroism we pop up ToL and RG is being replaced with HT. NS+HT should be used the second time either before or after BL/Heroism.

Hope I did not forget anything. Also looking forward to check out Slourettes math, I'm quite interested.

As for Dreamwalker optimal ToL usage will vary depending on your raid's healing output onto Dreamwalker. You'll definitely want to use ToL during Bloodlust when you have the most stacks. If it's worth using ToL in the beginning of the fight depends on whether the fight lasts long enough to allow for two ToL usages.

Yes, see previous page for this.

I got lost in my thoughts and imagined a situation when BL is popped not strictly in the end, but much earlier. So that you either use tree form in the beginning and in the end, but not during Bloodlust, or use it only once during Bloodlust. Maybe in this case not using ToL during BL would have been better, but all of this is really stupid, I'm sorry. I'd better edit my previous post once again.

Maximising Hps is not like maximising DPS. Either you can't heal enough and people die and you wipe, or you succeed to heal enough so that peolple stay alive until the boss is dead. The most important points for me would be

- Is there a phase when you absolutely need to pop ToL?
- Is the fight hard on mana ?
- Is the fight regular
- Is your team experienced in the fight?

For a fight with hard phases, no questions, pop ToL at this moment. If the fight is hard on mana, maybe pop ToL to stack Lifebloom?, If the fight is regular, I would not pop ToL and keep it in case some guys in the raid made mistakes. And I also find a little bit weird to pop ToL during BL, cause we are going to cast more RG/ LB than HT/Nourrish, so they won't benefit from the casting buff.

(I hope my english is not so bad, sorry I'm from Switzerland.)