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Old 10/10/10, 7:04 AM   #16
Starfox
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Originally Posted by M� nze View Post
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Engineering tinkers are now a different class than enchants, so each item can have echant AND engi tinker at the same time

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Old 10/10/10, 7:23 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by Starfox View Post
Engineering tinkers are now a different class than enchants, so each item can have echant AND engi tinker at the same time
My point was that you don't get the +24 crit anymore, which are still mentioned in the professions section.

E&M : WM currently applies the debuff. I think this warrants to be noted somewhere (both here and maybe with some tips for AoE situations as currently only DKs can AE debuff, and since we will have the ability to plant the mushrooms in advance).
Affliction warlocks have same ability as well : Jinx
I guess it will end up them providing the debuff on some aoe havy fights, since it just got far more range, then WM do.

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Old 10/10/10, 11:14 AM   #18
Suatha
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Arawethion,

I had some questions on your choice of talents WoW Talent Calculator - Sigrie
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You currently have 3 points in Owlkin Frenzy. From what you had posted, you stated that many of the boss abilities do not proc this ability. This ability seems to have more use in a PvP environment rather than raiding. Would it be better to put these points into either Moonglow, Dreamstate, or Furor? In addition, there is the 1 point that you placed in Fungal Growth. This is another ability that seems to have a better place in a PvP spec. If you drop Owlkin Frenzy and Fungal Growth there are now 4 points that can be placed elsewhere.

From what I am seeing in the Balance tree, there is nothing to give Balance Druid's addition mana regen, other than the 12% from Euphoria upon gaining either Solar or Lunar eclipse. While I do not have any spreadsheet data to back up my research, I have been working on the Beta client with my current gear set, and by sticking to the needed rotation my mana seems to disappear fairly quickly.

For this reason, wouldn't those 4 extra points be better served by putting 2/3 Moonglow & 2/3 Furor. This would give a 6% mana cost reduction on damaging/healing spells and give our mana pool a 10% increase.

To include the change in talents and the addition of glyphs, here is the new tree:

WoW Talent Calculator - Sigrie

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Old 10/10/10, 11:23 AM   #19
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More minor edits scattered throughout. Remembered to include Astral Leather in Int figures. Changed head/shoulder enchants to the healer versions (Int/Spirit). Removed point in Fungal Growth since we don't have Wild Mushroom.

Originally Posted by Suatha View Post
I had some questions on your choice of talents
I'm currently working under the assumption that mana is a nonissue at level 80. Once you get above level 80, spell costs grow quickly, and at level 85 we'll probably be taking all available mana talents.

Owlkin Frenzy is a weak filler talent, but still should add some DPS (probably more than Blessing of the Grove).


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Old 10/10/10, 11:36 AM   #20
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The sheet still has 931 base MP5, which is the L85 value. The L80 value is 174 MP5. I'll put up a new version at some point, but the rotation is still mana-positive with raid buffs (even assuming Blessing of Might is weaker at L80, I'm not sure what that value is).


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Old 10/10/10, 11:13 PM   #21
Kluian
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Weren't people reporting Eclipse uptime to be around 66%? Not sure if the rotation also involves casting the dots before you leave, but that extends some of the eclipse use.

This was just in regard to your statement that mastery rating was worse than crit.

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Old 10/11/10, 10:21 AM   #22
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I have a question, with the Talsiman of the Resurgance's int now be amazingly more useful, is this trinket way better now for people who don't have access to some of the higher trinkets.

Also, and I have not checked the lastest build of the PTR, but the Flask of the North was only giving me 40 instead of 47.

Last edited by footstomp : 10/11/10 at 10:26 AM.

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Old 10/11/10, 10:48 AM   #23
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Yes, Talisman of Resurgence will suck less now

As to the Alchemy piece, good catch -- Flask of the North has indeed changed to 40 INT instead of 47 sp (which is a positive change really). Frost Wyrm is still 125 sp. Double-duration flasks (Mixology) are bugged and not functioning.


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Old 10/11/10, 1:48 PM   #24
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Just a couple of edits/disagreements:

Under "Overall damage multiplier (Nature/Arcane):" the number at the end is correct but the equation includes Master Shapeshifter, which is incorrect.

Under Glyphs:
I disagree with the comment about the Glyph of Starsurge. I think it is much more situational then you imply. For example, it could be very useful during Saurfang if it allows you to pop Starfall for each add phase. However, if it doesn't then it's a completely useless because you obviously want to save Starfall for that phase.

Under Gems:
At level 85 skipping socket bonuses will probably be the standard since the secondary stats get very devalued when compared to Int. At level 80 I don't see that being true. The only time I found it to be favorable to skip the socket bonuses at level 80 was if the item was a Double Yellow, Triple Yellow, or had secondary stat socket bonus.

That said, all of these difference are very small and probably not worth really debating.

Under Mods & Tools:
I realized you haven't changed this section yet, but if you get a chance I would add the Mod Balance Power Tracker.
Balance Power Tracker : Cataclysm Beta : WoWInterface Downloads

It's a nice little addon that is a big improvement over the Blizzard UI.

www.GrayMatterWoW.blogspot.com - My Moonkin related Blog.

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Old 10/11/10, 1:56 PM   #25
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Yeah, it's probably simplest you say you should just color-match at 80 as long as the socket bonus is spellpower.

I'll try out that addon today when I'm redoing my UI for tomorrow.


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Old 10/11/10, 5:20 PM   #26
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Missing wowhead thumbnails

You can plug in the following urls for the missing wowhead thumbnails at least until they switch Cata over to the live website:

Glyph of Starsurge "http://cata.wowhead.com/item=45603"
Brilliant Cardinal Ruby "http://cata.wowhead.com/item=40123"

On the live website they will show Glyph of Nourish and Brilliant King's Amber.

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Old 10/11/10, 6:13 PM   #27
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Yeah, I was just going to wait, because linking the pre-transformation versions of those itemID's might confuse people.


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Old 10/11/10, 6:52 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by Arythorn View Post
Yes, Talisman of Resurgence will suck less now
Also Darkmoon Card: Greatness and Pandora's Plea.

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Old 10/11/10, 7:20 PM   #29
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Quick question about the Spell queing section. Does this mean that stop casting macros will be broken? Such as...

/cast Starsurge
/stopcasting
/cast wrath

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Old 10/11/10, 11:29 PM   #30
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http://treebarkjacket.com/patch-4-0-guide/

Rebirth can only be used once every 30 minutes, and once used, puts all of the Rebirths in the raid on cooldown. That is, all druids in a group share the same 30 minute cooldown.
I don't know if this is true or not for 4.0 but if someone can confirm it, it probably would be a good idea to include it.

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