[WOTLK 4.0] Balance Discussion - Page 5

sokie · 10/13/10, 12:17 AM

I've got IS, but a guild mate has the "not in spellbook and not available from trainer" issue.

Cube · 10/13/10, 1:41 AM

Our feral tank(who never specced balance) has it, but none of the other druids in my guild can train it. They've all been balance at one point or another, so I think the bug is related to the talent ability versus the new baseline ability.

Kluian · 10/13/10, 9:11 AM

I'm pretty sure IS bug is the same one that was on beta. If you were spececd Moonkin and it was on your bar before the patch, you should have it when the patch it. If you didn't.... then you're out of luck until they fix it.

This was similar to Beta where if you copied your character from live you had to be moonkin spec with IS already trained otherwise it wouldn't appear on Beta. The moonkin spec had to be your current active spec.

Royalite · 10/13/10, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Arawethion

So, does anyone else not have Insect Swarm? :P

Blue post about it here:
World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> [4.0.1] Insect Swarm Bug Persists

They knew about the bug but their fix didn't work when the patch dropped on live. No ETA for the fix though.

Kicking myself for not logging out as moonkin.

Milou · 10/13/10, 12:18 PM

I had a similar issue, though the trainer in Thunder Bluff did let me train Insect Swarm but not the trainers in Moonglade nor Silvermoon.

Starfox · 10/13/10, 12:20 PM

Not like this bug was in beta since IS was made trainable, sometimes I don't get it, not really testing stuff like that :S

• Hamlet · 10/13/10, 1:03 PM

Looks like IS was fixed.

ryd3l · 10/13/10, 1:07 PM

Originally Posted by ryd3l

Shamans, DKs, Druids and Pallies all use relics in the ranged slot now instead of one type of gear each.

And on the Soulstone shared cd: I think so, but I'm not sure. I'll test it after heroic id reset later today

according to guildmates, the shared cd seems to be gone with the current beta build

the shared cd is however active on live servers in ICC

Royalite · 10/13/10, 1:27 PM

Originally Posted by Arawethion

Looks like IS was fixed.

Can you give some more information?

Cause I read the blue post:
World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> Patch 4.0.1 - Issues and Updates

There is currently an issue with some Druids where your spellbook directs you to visit a trainer to learn the spell. Unfortunately once you get there the trainer indicates that you already know it.

No update is available at this time.

Did you have to go to another trainer like a previous poster or did they patch it?

• Hamlet · 10/13/10, 2:12 PM

Originally Posted by Royalite

Can you give some more information?

Cause I read the blue post:
World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> Patch 4.0.1 - Issues and Updates

Did you have to go to another trainer like a previous poster or did they patch it?

I just went to Moonglade again a few minutes ago and it was there.

ryd3l · 10/13/10, 3:40 PM

Update on the raidwide Rebirth CD: It currently seems random whether you can use it more than once during an encounter. On live today the cooldown was triggered while doing HDeathwhisper, but not while doing HLK.
Similar with beta apparently.

Ereshmilor · 10/13/10, 3:44 PM

I'm not sure if this is new, but the debuff-tooltip of MF and IS shows that they interact per tick with NG, i assume haste in generall.

• Hamlet · 10/13/10, 4:29 PM

Originally Posted by Ereshmilor

I'm not sure if this is new, but the debuff-tooltip of MF and IS shows that they interact per tick with NG, i assume haste in generall.

That's been the case the whole time (maybe that's why people keep bringing this up), but the DoT's don't actually reflect it, at least as of the beta. Will look again on live.

Nassir · 10/13/10, 5:44 PM

Great work here guys!

weaselmortis · 10/13/10, 6:03 PM

Is Sunfire still not affected by haste like it was in the past, I haven't been able to get in to actually test it correctly.

And if so, is it still valid to try and avoid it assuming a 0 movement fight where you won't need lunar shower and at least at one point sunfire was actually a DPS loss?

Sorry if this is out of date, so much has happened the last couple weeks that I may have lost that update.