I need to find a better guild to test, but your numbers are roughly the same as mine on our multiple failed attempts...

Also, the various bugs are really starting to bother me. Having to target for Lifebloom is really screwing with my head, and tank healing is a wash without being able to refresh Lifebloom with HT/Nourish.

EDIT: I could just not be very good!

I guess so, makes the LB+Regrowth spam strategy a lot easier.

I'm not really rejuv-blanketing, although I'm using it a lot. I am using WG basically on cooldown, it's great. Lifebloom is a pain right now due to both bugs, but still useful.

Still very little Nourish. I'm often more likely to just wait for something to do than to cast Nourish--but I might just need to change habits there.

Rejuv-blanketing wouldn't be viable in the sense that you can just cast Rejuv on any person no matter what and expect to not run out of mana. Although I'm using Regrowth to patch instead of Nourish and not having mana problems, probably I don't even need to use HT/Nourish still. If Carebare's logs are any indication, she didn't use either spell at all, and presumably she didn't run out of mana, so...

I can't tell whether Halfus is broken or not, but he's kind of trivial. Is there any besides these two?

It's hard to adequately gauge HT/Nourish, since honestly if they're not going to refresh LB I wasn't going to waste time casting them.

The BWD boss was great fun and actually challenging to figure out, though moderately easy once we had it nailed.
The TH boss was a joke and the healing ridiculously easy after the first minute or so, to the point that we were yawning on vent.

Mana was totally fine for me, all of my gear is gemmed with haste, int/haste, and stam/haste. I did use a spirit flask though.

Healed both the 25 man bosses. I have to say I really wasn't using HT/Nourish much on these bosses. Part of this is the fact that the LB refresh mechanic isn't working on other players.


Halfus Wyrmbreaker -

Wild Growth = 33%
Rejuv = 29%
LB = 16%
Regrowth = 7%
Tranq = 7%
Swiftmend = 5%
HT = 2.5%
LS = 1.7%

Other boss I didn't save the log, but it was similar healing style.

Halfus isn't a pushover in 25 man. Some of the dragons nearly one shot tanks. Rdruids are very potent against the drake that only allows instant casts.

Unless something changes, 4 piece pvp will probably be bis for pve. 400 int and 2 secs off swiftmend vs 320 or so spi and I don't even remember what the 2 piece bonus is.

You would not use the PvP chest as it has no bonus stats except Resil and you only need 4 parts so you would end up with:
PvP 365 set - 470 Int (+400 Int due to set bonuses = 970 total), 102 Sta, 172 Crit, 32 Mastery with -2 sec on SM.
PvE 359 set - 595 Spi (+540 Spi due to set bonus = 1135 total), 178 Haste and 5% bonus crit on LB.

The mana regeneration between the extra Int/Spi works out roughly equal using a 7/3/31 (regen focused) spec but you have a potentially better set bonus and more SP. You also have reforging to throw into the mix however which complicates things but generally favors the PvE set due to not being able to lower Resil and a larger pool of stats to reduce.


If nothing else it highlights the reason to keep regeneration mechanics based off Spirit rather than max mana (I guess Blizzard haven't learned this after all this time). I would say the best way to go about this would be to make Revitalize trigger a buff boosting our Meditation by a further 50% for 6 seconds instead of 3% max mana but as it is 3am that could be wrong and that excludes balance issues for PvP.

My healing binds via Vuhdo are exactly the same as live atm, but lifebloom is a macro instead of spell. The macro is this:

/target vuhdo
/click ActionButton12
/targetlasttarget

and you need to have lifebloom on the bar at spot 12 (or w/e).

I also killed both bosses pretty easily, I'm kind of surprised you went with total haste setup, Mana is far from irrelevant, and SP is never irrelevant, I kinda figured everyone would be int gemming.

Reforging wise its Haste>Mastery>Crit>Spirit. I was considering re setting up my gear a bit less recklessly to get some spirit back and just went for it instead. I definitely needed to watch mana, but as long as you aren't spamming Regrowth or recklessly overhealing it's quite doable. Also get used to finding a good spot to use potion of concentration! This will be our new potion for awhile. And obviously Int flasks. And I used the Hurricane weapon chant instead of w/e garbage chant it is that procs 200 spirit.

I am extremely unimpressed with spirit atm. I'm pretty sure I would lose it all for boomkin haste/crit/mastery gear. Consider this, 1 Rejuv, costs 3725 mana. Divide that by 12 for 310.4 mp5, which takes 620.8 Spirit. So it takes 620 frickin spirit to get 1 rejuv worth of mana a minute? That is like all the spirit on 4 pieces of gear.

I haven't run the math, but Haste/Mastery/Crit have to do more throughput then that... Spirit seems like a complete waste.

The brd boss was a pretty long encounter, and I was in blues, and I managed my mana. I'm pretty sure we'll get all the regen we need from int which is also substantial throughput, screw spirit, it seems to be wasted item points in the current state of it.