It'll proc sometimes, on some fights.
Not like you can pick up any other dps increase talent if you decide to not take it though.

Hi,

Sorry if this is the wrong thread in which to post, and also sorry if this has been asked before.

I'm currently using Vagaries of Time (normal) and Demonic Skull. WrathCalcs tells me that I should be able to do 33k dps. When I replace the weapon with Tita'hk the Steps of Time (LFR version) it tells me that I should be able to do 31.5k dps. Is the spreadsheet calculating the haste proc properly? Or does the weapon just suck? (Yes, the enchant is on it)

Thanks!

Tita'hk has part of its item budget used by the haste proc given to 3 people around you, so in a sense, by using it, you give up 1023(lfr)/1158(normal)/1305(heroic) haste to others for 10sec every minutes, which means that you "lose" roughly 170/193/217.5 points of item budget compared to another weapon/weapon combination of the same ilvl.


Edit : simple answer, Vagaries of time + demonic skull is most likely better. Just get the Valor offhand and you are set.

Is there a valor offhand? Or you are talking about a pvp offhand, converting valor points?

Delete please.

I have a question regard the Glyph of IS and Glyph of SS. I'm focusing on mastery (already have 2640 haste + DI on raid), and it seems GoIS is working better than GoSS in almost every fight, but Wrathcalcs says the opposite. Can anyone clarify this to me?

My current value of mastery is 17.54, but im aiming for 18.50ish with more heroic gear, also my average ping is around 120ms. Also in my rotation, i only use IS, MF once each eclipse.

Thanks in advance!

Oops, my bad, for some reason I thought [Ledger of Revolting Rituals] was a valor item.. Good luck looting it or [Dragonfire Orb]!
Alternatively, [Lightning Rod] is pretty good.

Simcraft puts the value of the extra tick around 227 dps. I used the Balance T13H BiS profile, with overrides for the haste breakpoint:
gear_haste_rating 3100: 47370 dps
gear_haste_rating 3101: 47597 dps

My personal scale factors run about 4 dps per int and 2.5 dps per haste. So the break even point would be around 150 int. Though presumably you're looking for a gain, not to break even. I'd be hesitant to go for the breakpoint unless you could do it by swapping 2 red gems with oranges.

YMMV, the actual value probably varies quite a bit based on when you refresh your dots. Simcraft sometimes refreshes dots before leaving Solar, and if you're clipping ticks you reduce the value of the breakpoint slightly.

It would definitely have to be more than 2 red gems swapped out and that would be putting the less favourable haste enchant on boots (as opposed to Lavawalker). It's difficult to test without a fairly hefty gold investment as well, so it's probably better for me to 'play it safe' for now and continue on as I am (and pray for a new raiding Warlock to join us!).

The most red -> orange gems I'd do would be three. With a full T13H BiS setup without DI, you should only have to swap out 3 reds for 3 oranges to get the 3101 haste breakpoint. Make sure you get haste on boots and gloves before swapping intellect, as with the glove enchant you're trading away some mastery (better alternative) and boots mastery + run speed (you can get away with the lack of run speed in most Dragon Soul fights).

A couple questions about dots (and kinda general dps) -

1. When to refresh? If you have just hit a haste breakpoint I assume you should wait till MF/IS wear off before putting the respective dot back up. If you are mid way to a breakpoint, how do you know when the last tick goes off to know when to refresh or is it just feel?

2. I feel like in multidoting situations I loose too much time targeting the different mobs. Tab targeting seems to work half the time if they are within a certain range, but not all the time. How do people target 'fast enough'? For example on Blackhorn as the drakes fly by I am moving my camera every which way to try to be able to click on the drakes and quite often it seems to take more than finishing a global to get the next target. I know it's just seconds, but on fights where you switch targets so much and some seem difficult to target how do you not waste time?