[Resto] Cataclysm Simple Q & A - Page 5

Groat · 12/30/10, 1:25 PM

I think it is all pretty fuzzy, especially when you factor in Reforging. There isn't an exact way to tell what the "best" is - it does change based on play style. I've gone the haste route (haven't been doing any real raids due to laziness), but it really depends on how you like to heal. Also, consider that you can get Darkmoon Cards pre-raid (rolls back around next week).

Ridiculer · 12/31/10, 2:56 PM

Simple question about the haste breakpoint of 1219.59 to gain the 12th tick of lifebloom.
What's the exact purpose of this, I mean, we basically have this on the tank or maybe in ToL on as much people as possible. I presume this lifebloom tick will tick at the last 0.1 seconds before it blooms?
Then why would we want to get that extra tick, since it'll never tick because ur refreshing it earlier anyways. or am I completely wrong here?

nesf · 12/31/10, 4:46 PM

Originally Posted by Ridiculer

Simple question about the haste breakpoint of 1219.59 to gain the 12th tick of lifebloom.
What's the exact purpose of this, I mean, we basically have this on the tank or maybe in ToL on as much people as possible. I presume this lifebloom tick will tick at the last 0.1 seconds before it blooms?
Then why would we want to get that extra tick, since it'll never tick because ur refreshing it earlier anyways. or am I completely wrong here?

If you refresh between the second last and the last tick, you'll still get that last tick of the HoT before the new duration starts. So you don't need to refresh in the last 0.1 second of LB to get the advantage of that extra tick. So refreshing in the last second will get you the extra tick. Small window but doable if there isn't a whole lot of raid damage distracting you.

You'll also get the benefit of the extra tick when you blanket the raid during ToL form.

Playered · 12/31/10, 7:25 PM

With LB it's better to think of it as making the ticks happen faster (thus increasing the HPS) rather than the refresh rate as that is rather redundant with Nr/HT doing that for us now in a manner which does not reset the tick timing.

Talayska · 01/01/11, 12:16 PM

I've seen lists of the haste breakpoints for all of the hots' ticks, but what's the current amount of haste needed for a one second gcd?

If this is attainable sometime in this expansion, then wouldn't that be a clear point to spec out of Swift Rejuvenation?

Shelendil · 01/01/11, 1:07 PM

5489 haste from gear with raid buffs. Unlikely to be attainable this expansion.

Pyrates · 01/03/11, 6:52 AM

I could only find threads from beta, and none of them seemed conclusive. So how does efflorescence interact with mastery? Afaik Swiftmend does not benefit from mastery, so the base height of ticks is unaffected by mastery, but what if someone having a hot gets healed by my efflorescence? What if he loses it inbetween, what if he only gains it after some ticks of efflorescence?

Amrasellion · 01/03/11, 7:50 AM

I have a question regarding Omen of Clarity. Does the chance of getting a Clearcasting proc go up with the number of applications of Lifebloom you have on your target? That is, does a stack of 3 Lifeblooms have a higher chance to proc Clearcasting than a stack of 1 Lifebloom?

This is valuable information when in Treeform when covering lots of people with Lifebloom and thereby getting lots of Clearcasting procs. If the chance of getting Clearcasting procs does not go up with the size of the stack it would make more sense to apply 1 Lifebloom to each target before increasing the stack to 2 and 3 instead of applying 3 stacks to a target before moving on to the next target.

Avena · 01/03/11, 8:44 AM

Originally Posted by Amrasellion

Does the chance of getting a Clearcasting proc go up with the number of applications of Lifebloom you have on your target?

No.

it would make more sense to apply 1 Lifebloom to each target before increasing the stack to 2 and 3 instead of applying 3 stacks to a target before moving on to the next target.

Exactly.

Puckey · 01/03/11, 7:51 PM

Simple question, it's not clear from the spell description if Tranquility is considered an HoT or not. Wondering if I should be applying WG immediately before Tranquility for maximum healing.

smallrabbit · 01/04/11, 5:17 AM

Little testing with Tranquility: It benefits from mastery, and it's "updating" live. I mean as long as your WG is active on the target the ticks from tranq are higher.

My ingame example: tranq without WG: 9060+9060+13591(crit)+3395(hot)+9061+3395+3395+3395+3395
My ingame example: tranq with WG: 10313+10313+15469(crit)+3864(hot)-WG fades-9061+3395+3395+3395+3395

Mawic · 01/05/11, 2:03 PM

Has anyone found a good way to track how effectively they're using Symbiosis? I think I'm using it effectively, but I haven't found a way to prove it.

I'd love to be able to tint my Grid indicator for Lifebloom so I get a red-flag in combat if it's missing the Symbiosis bonus, or at the very least use a WorldOfLogs report after the raid to figure out what percent of my healing received the bonus.

jthoov · 01/05/11, 4:17 PM

am i just a dumb and weak healer!?

forget about 10 man or 25 man and pvps

i'm just talking about dungeon heroics. i'm geared enough to be able to get into the dungeons but i keep running out of mana and everyone drops their health so fast.

every group i've been in so far is constantly at like 30% hp even on trash mobs.

is this normal?? i feel like i'm going crazy because i'm doing everything "by the book"

i've read the Resto guide posted on the forum. i copied the spec exactly, got the same glyphs, read all the skills, watched healing videos on youtube, downloaded the addons..

1 - lifebloom, reju on tank with the occasional regrowth and swiftmend if tank is going down but swiftmend barely heals anymore
2 - reju on anyone hurting
3 - the aoe heal thingy

i just dont get it... =(

my question is .... are your heroic groups dropping a lot of hp and eating up your mana even on trash!?

Groat · 01/05/11, 4:32 PM

For heroics at least, in general, I'm always keeping a 3-stack on the tank, spamming nourish non-stop (as it is basically free with regen and keeps the lifebloom rolling), use Rejuv ONLY for Swiftmend or rarely on the tank. Wild Growth any time 3 or more people have taken damage, and use Healing Touch any time you get a clearcast proc from your lifebloom rolling. Use the Healing Touch on the tank unless they're near topped off, in which case blast a DPS with it.

Higher haste = more frequent clearcast procs, and in general, your primary heals should be Nourish + Healing Touch (depending on how hard the targets are hitting). There also is plenty of individual accountability on the groups to not stand in crap, as per usual. I would advise AGAINST using Rejuv on anyone hurting though - spam Nourish + Rejuv ONLY for the Swiftmends.

Hobnaker · 01/05/11, 9:50 PM

[Chelley's Staff of Dark Mending] (Non-heroic) dropped in a raid tonight, and I have the chance to take it over Vicious mainhand and JP offhand. The thing is, I don't want to take it if it's not really worth the upgrade, or if it would benefit the guild more than it would me.

Thoughts?