[Balance] WrathCalcs - Page 12

• Hamlet · 05/05/11, 5:45 PM

I posted the conclusion a while back that it didn't proc beyond 35 energy, which is still what's reflected in WC. I'm just trying to remember if we never noticed any changes since then. Somehow I thought we had, but I'm not sure.

Arythorn · 05/05/11, 7:54 PM

Well, what I was trying to say what I've observed is Starfire procs take me from 40 to 80 or from 55 to 95 but never anything after 60. I was also trying to say I've observed Wrath procs take me from 46 to 73 but never from 73 to 100. Now based on what I just read on the plus or minus 35 bit, I slowed my rotation down to single casts across the bar this evening and, like Hamlet, I am not seeing any procs past 35 energy either way. When I *thought* I was seeing 40 to 80 or 55 to 95 or 60 to 87 type procs it was really just BPT catching up after the fact on a spam rotation. Long and short, Euphoria continues to affect only a very narrow band of our casts (even narrower than I thought) and has still not been fixed.

• Hamlet · 05/05/11, 8:01 PM

Here was the initial discussion:
http://elitistjerks.com/f73/t110353-...7/#post1854439

This seems like confirmation that it's unchanged.

aceofsween · 05/05/11, 9:28 PM

To my knowledge that has remained unchanged and we never did get any sort of response in the thread I started on the main boards about it. At least I have yet to see a difference.

copialinex · 05/06/11, 3:40 AM

Originally Posted by Arythorn

When I *thought* I was seeing 40 to 80 or 55 to 95 or 60 to 87 type procs it was really just BPT catching up after the fact on a spam rotation. Long and short, Euphoria continues to affect only a very narrow band of our casts (even narrower than I thought) and has still not been fixed.

This happened because when the energy went from positive to negative energy or vice versa, it stopped a moment at 0.
This time was significally reduced in 4.1, and it shouldn't happen anymore (fixed in BPT), however, any Euphoria procs will be updated when they happen, and the proyected energy will be updated accordingly.

Arythorn · 05/06/11, 9:38 AM

Originally Posted by copialinex

This happened because when the energy went from positive to negative energy or vice versa, it stopped a moment at 0. This time was significally reduced in 4.1, and it shouldn't happen anymore (fixed in BPT), however, any Euphoria procs will be updated when they happen, and the projected energy will be updated accordingly.

Understood, Euphoria procs on Wrath in particular though -- if you are spamming through a rotation -- look like they happen later as BPT is already predicting energy for the next cast when the cast that procs Euphoria lands. This isn't a problem with BPT really, just something that made me think I was seeing Euphoria procs in a wider band than +/- 35 Energy until I slowed to single casts to test.

Also, throw me a PM on Calculated at TMR or Arythorn here when you get even a test version of BPT for 4.2 PTR. I'm copied over and ready to start throwing the rotation and BPT through their respective paces.

♦ Tecton · 05/10/11, 10:59 AM

Small update with random stat loot properly implemented (Hamlet, if you've got anything in your personal version, just roll with that and I'll add this back on top of yours). The profile system is updated to work for the new fields, but if you're importing a profile with any random stat loot you'll need to reselect the name/type by hand. A dropdown menu now appears with the stat options if you select an item with random stats, which should make it easier to compare the different random drops.

Apologies for that taking so long, but it looks like we'll be seeing more of the same in T12 so figured I'd better get it sorted!

♦ Tecton · 05/10/11, 5:24 PM

Another version with the latest loot added, as well as the tier loot being picked up automatically by the sheet. I've put a profile where I've simply swapped the tier pieces Hamlet is wearing with the T12 equivalents for comparison. Legendary weapon has been added, obviously it's in a placeholder state for now without a proc though.

• Hamlet · 05/10/11, 10:23 PM

I don't think I've made any changes since the last time I posted. You can just keep updating this one. It doesn't seem like today's notes require any significant changes anyway.

• Hamlet · 05/10/11, 10:31 PM

Actually, here's a small update. I put in the data tables for the T12 set bonuses, since people might want to look at those.

Moonwhisper · 05/12/11, 8:07 AM

@Tecton
Is there a currently working Open Office version of Wrathcalcs for patch 4.1 (or for 4.2PTR)?

I have trouble with the wrathcalc versions starting with the version WrathCalcs 110330.xls upto the most current version. The release version WrathCalcs 110423.xls is not working too. However, the version wrathcalcs WrathCalcs 110323.xls does not show this error.
I am using OO 3.3.0

All of the mentioned wrathcalcs versions show err502 in haste/mastery head summary and in the reforge sections of the trinket1 and 2. resulting in err502 in the stat summary of these trinkets.

I assume that something went wrong in the reforging sections.

Can you have a look into it. Thx in advance!

♦ Tecton · 05/18/11, 9:09 AM

Not sure why I missed your post Moonwhisper, but I'll get a look at that as soon as possible (new job & new guild allowing). Is it the same error on the PTR version?

Armory update is being worked on still, I promise. Soon! I'm also going to add an ilvl filter to the dropdown menus before the patch hits too, so that you can restrict your dropdown choices for gear.

Updated the PTR items, a few changes:

The legendary staff is now haste/hit rather than crit/hit, and has had it's spellpower adjusted to be more in line with it's item level. The un-legendary versions are still crit/hit, though, which would make sense.
Necromantic Focus corrected to no longer allow reforging the mastery bonus (as it's a stacking buff).
Item stats/sockets/names have been updated for tier sets, they aren't just an upgraded version of T11 any more.
PvP gear added. Some of it is tagged heroic, oddly. I removed the spell pen items, since I didn't think they were really serving any purpose. If someone really wants them added back in, let me know.

As always, let me know if anything is missing/etc.

♦ Tecton · 05/19/11, 7:16 AM

Small update with today's items added. Also updated the T12 profile on the front page so that it has more Firelands level drops. DMC Volcano is in the profile as it remains highly competitive.

♦ Tecton · 06/09/11, 6:37 AM

Hamlet, are you working on anything (or in Treecalcs) at the moment, or am I ok to add another raft of items?

• Hamlet · 06/09/11, 7:11 PM

Originally Posted by Tecton

Hamlet, are you working on anything (or in Treecalcs) at the moment, or am I ok to add another raft of items?

The newest versions I have here are from 5/10 and 5/11, which I think are both posted on the threads. Why don't you throw items into both now, and then I'll look into updating afterwards.