[Balance] WrathCalcs - Page 51

♦ Tecton · 03/08/13, 7:26 AM

Ok, new version:

All TF gear on WoWDB also added. I filtered for ilvl 528 and 541. I'm doing this by hand as I don't want to build another import tool for WoWDB, so let me know if there's anything missing/etc. This doesn't seem to be the comprehensive list, I'll update as more appear on databases.
T15H profile updated (made Slippy's recent changes and swapped in two new TF items).
ToT weapons given a prismatic socket. Just don't use it if you're not using the questline item for now.
Several trinket procs for Thunderforged gear added.
Conditional formatting fixed.

Just a quick question: since we're doing a proper uptime calculation on trinket procs now, should we go through and do something similar for the previous tier's trinkets (rather than just proc amount x duration / ICD) to allow for slightly more accurate comparison for people looking to upgrade?

• Hamlet · 03/08/13, 1:43 PM

Previous tier trinkets haven't changed to RPPM I think, so there isn't to change there. Could always try to estimate the slight delay on procs, but doesn't seem worth worrying about now that RPPM seems like the wave of the future anyway.

TF items could generally be estimated in the same way that VP upgrades were--use the same formula for a 6 ilvl increase.

Slippykins · 03/08/13, 5:51 PM

Just a couple of oddities: Passionfire Choker (TF) only has crit on it, should have spirit as well. I can add the stats in manually of course, but just for everyone else to be aware.

Also, Cha-Ye's Essence of Brilliance - Trinkets - Armor - Items - WowDB shows to have a red socket in WrathCalcs, but I don't see any of the versions on Wowdb with a socket. Also has a socket bonus of 60 spirit, so I'm not sure what's happening there. Actually, for some reason it's transposing the stats of Durumu's Captive Eyeball in my Ring 1 slot... the spirit/crit/redsocket/sockbonus are all exactly the same.

Edit: it's because Cha-Ye's (TF) has the same item ID as Durumu's Captive Eyeball (TF) of 96114. Cha-Ye's (TF) should be 96144.

Also, I was having problems importing my previous builds into the new WrathCalcs, all it would do was update name/server/race/battlenet. Not sure what's happening, but I just manually made a new one, no big deal. I'm using Excel 2010, shouldn't have caused any issues.

♦ Tecton · 03/08/13, 7:40 PM

Thanks for catching those, I added them quickly on my lunch break. Will check out profiles over the weekend. Updated:

Lilija · 03/09/13, 9:22 AM

I've found a little error in the Gear List:

Invocation of the Dawn normal version was named (Heroic) which lead to taking heroic stats when trying to import normal version.

♦ Tecton · 03/09/13, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Lilija

I've found a little error in the Gear List:

Invocation of the Dawn normal version was named (Heroic) which lead to taking heroic stats when trying to import normal version.

Hmm, now that one was imported automatically. I wonder if it was flagged incorrectly earlier in the PTR process, fixed below:

♦ Tecton · 03/10/13, 6:48 PM

Hmm, while looking at the Heroic TF gear, a lot of it seems to be uniquely named with different stats to the Heroic gear itself so I'm not sure how valuable just multiplying up the gear is going to be. Example:

Robes of Contagious Time - Item - World of Warcraft
Robes of Concussive Shocks - Item - World of Warcraft
Robes of Treacherous Ground - Item - World of Warcraft

Latas · 03/10/13, 8:25 PM

Originally Posted by Tecton

Hmm, while looking at the Heroic TF gear, a lot of it seems to be uniquely named with different stats to the Heroic gear itself so I'm not sure how valuable just multiplying up the gear is going to be. Example:

Robes of Contagious Time - Item - World of Warcraft
Robes of Concussive Shocks - Item - World of Warcraft
Robes of Treacherous Ground - Item - World of Warcraft

Not sure what you are getting at, last item is from council and the second item is from Tortos. They are all completely different items with no relation to each other.

♦ Tecton · 03/10/13, 8:39 PM

Yeah, that's my point. The items don't appear to just directly scale up from the heroic items (at least, for some of them). There isn't any other version of Robes of Contagious Time except for the Heroic Thunderforged item, the two other items I linked are the only other non-set/non-thunderforged heroic items in the tier.

• Hamlet · 03/10/13, 8:56 PM

The Heroic TF drops that are there now, with no non-TF version, are Ra-den loot. It all only exists at ilvl 541. The other Heroic items from regular bosses will all have TF versions that aren't in the database yet since nobody's gotten them on live.

♦ Tecton · 03/10/13, 9:35 PM

Ah, I see. I'd read someone saying Ra-den just dropped TF loot that came from other bosses, guess that wasn't accurate. Thanks for clarifying!

Duba · 03/14/13, 7:06 PM

do we have Wrathcalcs with the upgraded proc chance?

• Hamlet · 03/14/13, 7:31 PM

Not with the new stuff. If you want to check easily yourself, multiply all ToT trinket proc rates by 1.05*1.13, and then UVLS by another 1.3.

♦ Tecton · 03/18/13, 8:26 AM

Added the latest Heroic TF gear showing on Wowhead (haven't touched trinket proc rates/etc):

Furein · 03/19/13, 5:59 AM

is it able to be updated for use on 64bit? casue im getting whenever i try to import/save with the macro buttons under profile and sometimes as soon as i open it.:

"Compile error:

The code in this project must be updated for use on 64-bit systems.
Please review and update Declare statements and then mark then with the PtrSafe attribute."

or is there a way to run the 2013 exell im running at 32bit?