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Old 04/15/08, 11:39 PM   #1186
nakedduck
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Arthas
a quick look, change your metasocket to a CSD, i'll look in better detail tomorrow. a CSD will a lot more umph.
21 crits@ an average of 6134

A CSD would have made those:
6410.03
6410.03-6134 =276
276*21 = 5796.63
fight was 3:18
5796.63/198= 29 more dps

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Old 04/16/08, 12:27 AM   #1187
Pudgeball
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Vengeful spirits are listed as a pet. Everyones DPS will be skewed.

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Old 04/16/08, 12:51 AM   #1188
Jazzdruid
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It looks like Vengeful Spirits are separated even though they are classified as pets.

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Old 04/16/08, 1:20 AM   #1189
Bellawynn
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Teron also has a significant amount of pushback and is very much about blowing everything you have as quickly as you can. Probably anything in Hyjal or Council would be a better representation of the damage you can do compared to other raiders.

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Old 04/16/08, 2:59 AM   #1190
Aenerion
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Zangarmarsh
any pointers

I just got my 4p t6 bonus and i have 1166 spell dmg unbuffed, 47 haste, 18.77% base crit chance out of form. I was just wondering if anyone had any pointers on how i could improve my dps. my armory is The World of Warcraft Armory, please check it out and if possible give me some pointers that could even remotely increase my dps (gear that i could pick up, regeming, etc...)



much appreciated,



Ænerion

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Old 04/16/08, 4:40 AM   #1191
Sorail
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As the most visible upgrade could be to drop some spellhit. You need 151-152 max to be capped. Don't know if you are ever groupped with elemental shaman, if you are, regem your gear so you have possibility to equip low hit gear for that cases.

Your talents aren't maximised for raid utility but that wouldn't raise your personal dps (except for when you are threatcapped at any fight - if you are, drop Celestial Focus for more points in Subtetly) so won't go there.

Not sure if you can do Zul'Aman but according to your gear it shouldn't be a problem. The spellhaste cloak from the first chest, the spell haste neck from Zul'Jin and the trinket from Hexlord all would be significant upgrades and aren't hard to get.

Gemming for crit/hit is generally lowering your dps, you should go for spelldamage/haste and get better results probably.

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Old 04/16/08, 7:39 AM   #1192
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Originally Posted by Jazzdruid View Post
It looks like Vengeful Spirits are separated even though they are classified as pets.
Hmm fair enough. I didn't examine your specific parse that closely (WWS has been slow last night/this morning ), but I just know in the past a lot of parses with them listed as pets ended up having a problem somewhere with correct DPS numbers.

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Old 04/16/08, 8:24 AM   #1193
Nano Gurth
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one simple question, not directly related to spellhaste.
wich are the best trinkets available at 4xt6, when starfire spam is the "almost" ideal rotation ?
let's pass on the skull of gul'dan that obviously is awesome.

would the lighting capacitor scale well enough to be still competitive? or will it fall short in comparison with the hex shrunken head, and the new alchemist stone?

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Old 04/16/08, 3:05 PM   #1194
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Originally Posted by Nano Gurth View Post
one simple question, not directly related to spellhaste.
wich are the best trinkets available at 4xt6, when starfire spam is the "almost" ideal rotation ?
let's pass on the skull of gul'dan that obviously is awesome.

would the lighting capacitor scale well enough to be still competitive? or will it fall short in comparison with the hex shrunken head, and the new alchemist stone?
It depends.

Do you have a shadowpriest? JoW? Do you have heroism/bloodlust? If so, how many times in a fight? How long is the fight? Drums of Battle - no, sometimes, all 5 group members? Do you keep up IS/Moonfire - if so, Timbals might be good?

There are trinkets that are good depending on the situation. I have yet to test Timbals as I haven't been moonkin since I got it. But a lot of the questions people post can be answered depending on their circumstances. Yes, I think most people realize trinket / trinket procs aren't modeled very well. But it's not hard to test yourself. A few pulls wear one trinket, and then another pull wear another one. Examine the results from WWS/Recount. I'm pretty sure though Lightning Cap is mildly worthless since there's the cooldown on it stacking I believe, especially if you have HSH or Pew Alch Stone. I'd rather use the Exalted BT trinket over Light Cap if I was spamming starfires

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Old 04/16/08, 4:19 PM   #1195
thedopefishlives
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Assuming the modeling I've done is correct, Lightning Cap and Timbal's are both pretty good trinkets, right up there with the Skull and seemingly ahead of the Hex Shrunken Head. However, to qualify that statement, the frame of reference is from an early T4 (i.e. no 25-man gear yet) moonkin. I'm not sure how well they scale with better gear.

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Old 04/16/08, 4:49 PM   #1196
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Originally Posted by thedopefishlives View Post
Assuming the modeling I've done is correct, Lightning Cap and Timbal's are both pretty good trinkets, right up there with the Skull and seemingly ahead of the Hex Shrunken Head. However, to qualify that statement, the frame of reference is from an early T4 (i.e. no 25-man gear yet) moonkin. I'm not sure how well they scale with better gear.
Hmmm, is Lightning Cap still up there? I know it used to be quite good in the past, but after they implemented that cool down thing on back to back crits, I used it for a night and it just didn't seem to be as good with the amount of additional damage it did.

I wouldn't mind testing it again, but I doubt I'll be raiding as Moonkin much anymore now that we have more Locks & Elem Sham.

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Old 04/16/08, 4:53 PM   #1197
thedopefishlives
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Originally Posted by Pudgeball View Post
Hmmm, is Lightning Cap still up there? I know it used to be quite good in the past, but after they implemented that cool down thing on back to back crits, I used it for a night and it just didn't seem to be as good with the amount of additional damage it did.

I wouldn't mind testing it again, but I doubt I'll be raiding as Moonkin much anymore now that we have more Locks & Elem Sham.
It's possible that I didn't model the cooldown thing. I'll check the code when I get home. You're right; if I didn't model the cooldown, that would probably lower its effectiveness significantly. Offhand, anyone know what the cooldown is?

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Old 04/16/08, 5:07 PM   #1198
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Originally Posted by thedopefishlives View Post
It's possible that I didn't model the cooldown thing. I'll check the code when I get home. You're right; if I didn't model the cooldown, that would probably lower its effectiveness significantly. Offhand, anyone know what the cooldown is?
"The 2.5 second internal cooldown does not actually prevent you from gaining charges faster than 2.5 seconds. What it does do, is prevent you from gaining the *first* charge, less than 2.5 seconds after a lightning bolt has been fired. So the nerf is really not as bad as it may seem, and yes the tooltip on the item is misleading."

That was taken from wowhead, but it sounds familiar. Obviously they're talking about Elemental Shammy. Maybe it is still pretty decent... It'd be kind of fun with Timbals! Lots of proc pew pews going off

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Old 04/16/08, 5:44 PM   #1199
Aenerion
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Zangarmarsh
thank you very much sorail

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Old 04/17/08, 3:33 AM   #1200
Benita
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Dentarg (EU)
For trinket questions check this: 2 pages/1 week ago

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