[Resto] TreeCalcs - Page 4

• Hamlet · 11/28/11, 11:10 PM

I didn't have time to get to TreeCalcs tonight, but if WrathCalcs was an indication, Tect is putting in haste proc trinkets correctly. So the sheet shouldn't need much updating from me w.r.t. handling items.

♦ Tecton · 11/29/11, 3:30 PM

Should be up to date, but if anyone notices anything out let me know and I'll sort it out. Gear is just thrown in.

Regarding the higher haste breakpoints, I'm not sure now that we know what loot doesn't have Heroic versions if you can still sensibly get to them, but if someone puts together a BiS I'll put that on the front profile.

♦ Tecton · 12/01/11, 5:19 AM

A couple of bug fixes:

Removed a dead link to Wrathcalcs when adding the Ti'takh calculations. Sorry about that!
Fixed meta gem import for Revitalizing, added Burning.
Removed a couple of trinkets which aren't in live files.

• Hamlet · 12/01/11, 11:30 AM

I had fixed the WC link issue myself before uploading a few days ago, so I think there's nothing urgent. I'll put that one up later today. Did they fold Revitalizing into Burning now? I'll have to note that in the guide (it would also change meta reqs).

♦ Tecton · 12/01/11, 6:59 PM

Yeah, Burning now just applies crit effect, rather than strictly healing or damage crit effect. I've updated the meta reqs in the sheet too.

Burning Shadowspirit Diamond - Item - World of Warcraft

♦ Tecton · 12/02/11, 6:11 AM

Updated to correct epic gem importing and remove the spirit for Lightweave. Socket bonus added to Mycosynth Wristguards.

Anabolix · 12/02/11, 9:43 AM

Mycosynth wristguards have a 10 int socket bonus that isn't currently listed.

♦ Tecton · 12/02/11, 10:14 AM

Updated above link, thanks!

♦ Tecton · 12/03/11, 6:40 AM

I'd tagged the tier robes incorrectly, thanks for the catch. New version:

diegoa · 12/05/11, 12:04 PM

Hello,

I've updated treecalcs.com to support latest treecalcs.xls. Also, online version of Spells table now shows same info as an Excel one.

There is probably an error in Rotation sheet of Excel version in the formula for Wayward Heart: parameters for RF version are the same as for Heroic one.

More updates to come after New Year: profiles and Haste table.

Ultis · 12/05/11, 1:36 PM

Just noticed that the Windward Heart formula doesn't seem to include the spellpower scaling that I posted about in [Resto] Gear Discussion 4.2 (Firelands) OLD, thereby significantly undervaluing the trinket.

♦ Carebare · 12/05/11, 6:11 PM

Just a reminder: If your post has to do with TreeCalcs and nothing else, it belongs here rather than the discussion thread. Thanks in advance. We really strive to keep the spreadsheet stuff separate.

♦ Tecton · 12/07/11, 4:31 AM

A few changes:

20 Intellect added to the crafted bracers as this has now been hotfixed.
Intellect added to each of the Unliving trinkets.
Made a bash at adding the SP scaling to the Windward Heart trinket proc, and reduced the ICD to 20 seconds. Previous ICD was at 45 seconds because I couldn't find any info, this significantly improves the throughput of the trinket.

Thanks for the information everyone who reported the above. I'm not going to lie, Hamlet or someone else mathematically minded should probably cast their eye over the Windward Heart procs to make sure I've not missed any multipliers or anything.

Erdluf · 12/28/11, 10:37 AM

Ruthless Gladiator's gear (at least Wyrmhide Helm and Pendant of Alacrity, didn't check the rest) are still showing Season 10 numbers.

diegoa · 01/03/12, 1:37 PM

I've applied 111207 version to treecalcs.com. One new feature: HPS log, each calculated HPS is stored to log. Double clicking log item restores character/gear/stats/buffs configuration.

Sasazuka · 01/05/12, 1:55 PM

[Foul Gift of the Demon Lord] is missing from the list of trinkets. It is +383 INT with "Your healing and damaging spells have a chance to grant 1149 mastery rating for 20 sec". Around 40% uptime and reported 45 sec ICD.

EDIT: Also it seems after a Battle.Net import, the calculation of stats isn't correct. If I re-select the epic gems then they get calculated correctly (with TreeCalcs 111207). It looks like it's missing the "(Red)" from the name of the gem. Extra Blacksmithing sockets are not filled with gems.

EDIT: Ring of the Riven needs to have its haste updated to the correct value.

♦ Tecton · 01/10/12, 3:58 AM

Quick update fixing the following:

Foul Gift of the Demon Lord updated (was showing the previous, datamined version still).
Ring of the Riven (Normal) added.
Gem names corrected. I'd fixed this on Wrathcalcs while on holiday, but forgot to pick it up here too, thanks for the reminder.
Small fix for belt gem importing.

I'll take a look at blacksmithing when I get some time, never noticed that bug before since so few druids seem to use it! I don't have time at the moment to go through and add PvP gear right now, if there's a demand for it I'll get it soon.

PawsomeOZ · 01/13/12, 2:08 AM

Originally Posted by Sasazuka

[Foul Gift of the Demon Lord] is missing from the list of trinkets. It is +383 INT with "Your healing and damaging spells have a chance to grant 1149 mastery rating for 20 sec". Around 40% uptime and reported 45 sec ICD.

I read that you must refresh your harmony when the trinket procs to gain the actual benefit

Erdluf · 01/13/12, 9:00 AM

Originally Posted by PawsomeOZ

I read that you must refresh your harmony when the trinket procs to gain the actual benefit

It is symmetric. On average what you lose at the beginning, you gain at the end.

Harmony picks up (or loses) the trinket buff when Harmony is refreshed. HoTs snapshot Harmony when they are refreshed.

Timeline, No weapon or second trinket:

11 Gain Foul Gift
...
30 Regrowth (Harmony, Lb rfefresh)
31 Lose Foul Gift
34.3 Rj falls off
34.9 Rj cast Full duration benefits from the trinket.
37 Lb cast to refresh stack, Full duration benefits from the trinket (not sure about the bloom).

The last strong Lb and Rj ticks were both at 46 (Foul Gift expired at 31, and Harmony expired at 40).

colhd · 01/14/12, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by Erdluf

It is symmetric. On average what you lose at the beginning, you gain at the end.

Harmony picks up (or loses) the trinket buff when Harmony is refreshed. HoTs snapshot Harmony when they are refreshed.

Timeline, No weapon or second trinket:

11 Gain Foul Gift
...
30 Regrowth (Harmony, Lb rfefresh)
31 Lose Foul Gift
34.3 Rj falls off
34.9 Rj cast Full duration benefits from the trinket.
37 Lb cast to refresh stack, Full duration benefits from the trinket (not sure about the bloom).

The last strong Lb and Rj ticks were both at 46 (Foul Gift expired at 31, and Harmony expired at 40).

This suggests that refreshing Harmony as soon as the buff is gained, heal as required, refresh Harmony just before the buff expires, then avoid a direct heal or Swiftmend for as long as possible. Would prolonging the effect of the buff to Harmony by using HoTs after Foul Gift expires be worth delaying Swiftmend (and as such Efflo)? My gut says this would be situational but sometimes worth it if you can keep track of it. And obviously, if you were able to use a Swiftmend to refresh Harmony at the end of the Foul Gift buff this may be the ideal use.

Erdluf · 01/14/12, 12:08 PM

As you say, that would be very situational. I think it will rarely be wise to cast what would otherwise be the "wrong" spell. That buff is rougly as strong as the power torrent buff, and it isn't often that I'd change things up just because of power torrent.

If you were in a fight where HPM was much more important than "urgent" heals, you might want to try that.