Panzer,

For the most part, our DoTs use the buffs we had at the time they were cast. That includes Eclipse, Haste, Mastery, and crit rating.

Note that 4t11 (crit%, not crit rating) was different. Its changes applied to existing DoTs.

When testing this, don't trust tooltips (which do update dynamically). Look at the numbers in a combat log.

@Erdluf: Thanks!

Our stat priorities are (as stated in Hamlet's main thread)
- Int
- Hitcap (17% = 1742 ratings)
- Haste
- Mastery
- Crit

I would say it's a big deal, at least. I haven't tried going all crit or something, but most people agrees that this is the best stat prio.

Ignoring any nice trinket/enchant procs, you basically reapply dots when you hit an eclipse and refresh them just before you leave the eclipse, and hope that that last refresh will last you until next eclipse.

Hello, for this entire expansion i have been playing with Restoration, but now my 10-man has 4 healers and someone must change to dps.

Since i have played a ranged dps class before i said i could and i have been trying to learn about balance spec since then. I haven't tried it on FL heroic bosses yet, but since my raid is 7/7H i need to learn how to max my dps.

But the problem is: following the instructions given on the balance thread i can't get more than 19k DPS on the raider's dummy. I got the 17% hit cap, reforged crit to haste/mastery and mastery to haste (when possible)

My armory is this: Daniboy @ Ursin - Game - World of Warcraft
As you can see all my gear is from the Restoration spec, i have been farming justice points to buy the other parts of the tier on 4.3 (i got the heroic token to buy heroic chest and legs already).

I really don't know what i'm doing wrong. I use IS/MF (always starting with IS) on the beggining of a fight/eclipse, i always refresh the dots before the eclipse goes off, starfall and force of nature on CD, starsurge and its proc everytime i can and wrath/starfire on its proper times.

The tests that i run are done without any buff (only the ones from moonkin form), flask, pre-pot/pot, food.

I read that as ONLY selfbuffed. In that case it's not so bad, mate.

Only thing I would say is, dont use Starfall directly on CD, wait til next lunar eclipse.

And check on wowreforge.com - no matter how smart i think I reforge, it does it better than me..

I have been raiding on my druid for quite a while now (though mainly as resto). As fights permit I find myself going Boomkin alot more often, however I constantly find my DPS being lower then the rest of the raid (in Firelands its 5kish lower) but for example our recent tries on madness of Deathwing it was around 10k lower (I was doing 30k, average of other DPS was 40ish) then the rest of the raid (unfortunately I do not have a WoL link for this yet)

This is a link to our last ragnaros kill where I considerably lower then the rest of the raid.
WoL - Nedge - Balance Druid
WoL - Nedge - Balance Druid Madness of Deathwing tries (Have a look at different tries)
Armory

It could be that I am a complete idiot and do not watch my DoTs propperly, or I am doing something fundamentally wrong al together. Any input after reviewing the log would be greatly appreciated.

I am currently running around in Tier12 Balance gear, and a few heroic pieces here and there. I feel like I should be doing alot more DPS then I am doing now.

Appreciate the help.
Cheers


EDIT: Madness of Deathwing tries Added

Hey there,

I am slightly concerned about the performance of our Balance druid, unfortunately, I don't understand Balance well enough myself to correctly identify any potential issues.

Unfortunately, our guild's logs are private, so I cannot share them here. Currently, we are taking note of DoT uptime, which seems decent now, the rate of alternation between Solar/Lunar phases, which appears questionable to me, and the number of casts of Wrath/Starfire, which also seems unreliable.

We are comparing our logs to those of better performing druids, and it appears that other druids shift phases far more frequently, and in general, complete far more casts, more than can be accounted for by haste differences.

So, what other issues should we be looking for, and are there any obvious explanations for the issues we seem to have diagnosed so far?

Also, we have noticed the power gains recorded in WoL seems odd, for what reason are negative power gains recorded, and could we infer anything from large positive or negative power gains in a log? Our Druid's log records greater gains than other druids.

Thanks a lot for any help,
Caldera

Power gains for balance druids just record how far from his start position he ended the fight. So if he started at -100 (lunar) and ended at 100 (solar) it would show up as a much larger power gain than if he started and ended at the same position on the eclipse bar.

Hey everyone,
I started raiding again a few months ago and I've noticed my dps to be pretty low compared to my guildies. I been messing around with wrathcalcs today and would really like some input from other more experienced moonkins =)
Ollivia @ Garona - Game - World of Warcraft
I only have this for logs:
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis
After completing all the gear setup , talents and glyphs in Wrathcalcs, I noticed that with the target dummy option selected, my dps should be around 23500k. and I'm not close to that at all, usually between 18500.
rotation is as follows:
IS-MF-W( treants) W till eclipse, SF, SS, Starfall and reapply dots as they fall off, keep using SF until Solar and so forth. I use Starfall on lunar at the beginning but afterwards its mostly never up with other lunar eclipses.
The main issue I'm seeing is that most of the times my dots fall off in between eclipses, not just against the target dummy sometimes in raid as well.
I've read so many different views on when to refresh dots, that I'm a bit lost, Do I need to refresh them before NG expires? or just at the start of an eclipse ? Should I just apply them twice per eclipse to guarantee that they don't fall of in between eclipses?
I'm working to better my dot uptime atm, I know its on the low side.
Any help and tips are really appreciated.

Thanks in advance

With the t124pc and your level of haste you should be able to get between eclipses fairly easy. Essentially, you never want to refresh dots outside of eclipse unless you are greater than 2 casts away from said eclipse, and even than..non eclipsed dots are just so weak its a toss up. If you are exiting an eclipse and have <8 seconds left on your dots than you should refresh them but this number is really only with the 4pc. Without the 4pc you would need a few more seconds to get between eclipses. I find going from solar -> lunar I have plenty of time left on my dots but going from lunar -> solar i find myself reapplying sometimes at the end of solar. Looking at your gear again it looks like you are about 13 haste points away from a major DI haste breakpoint at 2639. Judging from your logs it looks like you get DI on most encounters so this breakpoint applies to you. With a couple more haste points you'll see a nice improvement in dps just from that a lone.

Looking over your logs there is one main thing hurting your dps that you can definitely improve and will result in pretty much an automatic dps boosts. Im referring to your dot up time. It doesn't really hit 90 percent on any encounter in those logs and sits much lower around in the 70 percent range most of the time. It should be in the 90 range or realistically above if you want optimal DPS. DO you use any trackers like tell me when, need to know, power auras, etc? Because your dot uptime is so low it leads to a low natures grace uptime and in your logs considering you have DI, your NG uptime is really low and could be double what it is on some of those fights. The only way to really improve it is to make sure your refreshing your dots in eclipses and as close to the end of them as possible.

You may want to look into getting a new trinket to replace fiery quintessence because you should be able to reach your hit level just fine without it and have the benefit of a stronger trinket. Hope this helps

Thank you for the quick reply =)
Yes I know my dot uptime in those logs is horrible, on previous ones it has been on average in the high 70s to low 80s, but that still needs improving. I do have power auras, but I guess I need to work on repositioning the timers of my dots. A guildie suggested Raven, so I will try a few different ones to see what works better for me. I know my main problem is my dot uptime, so hopefully with a little bit of addon repositioning, I'll do better.
The trinket fiery quintessence is not by choice, that's pretty much what I've been able to get.
Thanks again for your help =)

Need To Know (NeedToKnow - Buffs & Debuffs - World of Warcraft Addons - Curse) is my favorite.

I use to track everything, Inquisition and AW/Zeal duration on my pally as ret, duration left of tank CDs as tank, MF/IS on my moonkin, and trinket procs. Flame Shock on my shaman, you name it.

I'm a huge fan. It takes a bit of manually configuring each bar to track desired thing, but it's worth it.

I didn't like PowerAuras, since that didn't give me those nice intuitive duration bars.