[Balance] Simple Questions + WoL Feedback - Page 9

qae · 04/15/12, 8:40 AM

For HC spine I also recommend to have full Solar to start the Tendon. Put 3 mushrooms near the tendon spot, pop treants right after the add explode, and as soon as the tendon is targetable, use this macro :

/target boss2
/petattack
/use Bottled Wishes
/cast Insect Swarm
/cast Wild Mushroom: Detonate

"/target boss2" will always target the tendon (using the name of the tendon will sometime not work)

Don't refresh your dots, just put them once then spamm wrath and starsurge until the end (dots stop doing damage once the armor closes).
Don't stand too far from the tendon, to reduce travel time (spells in the air while the armor closes will not do damage).

saeedswat · 04/28/12, 10:34 PM

hi guys i have a porblem with my dps on ds hc

i checked my stats and my gear and i know all is ok

i guess my rotation is wrong

here is my armory:Iswat @ Burning Legion - Game Guide - World of Warcraft

here is my last dps on ult hc:World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis
here is warmaster:World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

i use warthcalcs it says ur dps is : 32465.34

Alafeya · 05/05/12, 8:57 AM

The biggest thing I noticed in comparing your Ultraxion log to my own is your Nature's Grace and Eclipse % times are both significantly lower. Try to tighten up your rotation to maximize these buffs. It's quite a challenge on Ultraxion due to Fading Light, and you'll still have good pulls and bad pulls. FYI, my eclipse up time was close to 80% and Nature's Grace was over 60%. I have DTR, and the procs help with these, but you could still improve in that area. Also, Glyph of Focus is a DPS increase on Ultraxion.

Romner · 05/05/12, 10:49 AM

Hey,

I'm unsure as to when I should be getting my NG popped. Should I refresh MF/IS (whichever one has least ticks left) as soon as I reach eclipse, regardless of how long MF/IS has left? Since that would, I would have thought, give more DPS. Or should I just refresh the dots when they run out and therefore NG is just popped when it's popped?

XtremeOmega · 05/06/12, 10:48 PM

Lunar shower for end-game, PvE. Yes or no?

thedopefishlives · 05/07/12, 9:17 AM

Originally Posted by Romner

Hey,

I'm unsure as to when I should be getting my NG popped. Should I refresh MF/IS (whichever one has least ticks left) as soon as I reach eclipse, regardless of how long MF/IS has left? Since that would, I would have thought, give more DPS. Or should I just refresh the dots when they run out and therefore NG is just popped when it's popped?

You should always refresh your DoTs when you hit Eclipse to maximize the NG uptime. Outside of that, the generally accepted wisdom is to also refresh right before leaving Solar. I'm not sure if it was ever determined if it was worthwhile to refresh just before leaving Lunar.

Romner · 05/07/12, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by thedopefishlives

You should always refresh your DoTs when you hit Eclipse to maximize the NG uptime. Outside of that, the generally accepted wisdom is to also refresh right before leaving Solar. I'm not sure if it was ever determined if it was worthwhile to refresh just before leaving Lunar.

Thanks for the advice.
Refresh both DoTs? Isn't that kinda a waste of a GCD since you only need to refresh one to proc NG?

Originally Posted by XtremeOmega

Lunar shower for end-game, PvE. Yes or no?

No. Put your points in Perseverance or a mana talent instead. There is so little constant movement in Dragon Soul that there really isn't any need for it. (And yes, it no longer refreshes while moving but it's a severe DPS loss anyhow, so the only place you'd use it is while on the move)

thedopefishlives · 05/07/12, 1:13 PM

Originally Posted by Romner

Thanks for the advice.
Refresh both DoTs? Isn't that kinda a waste of a GCD since you only need to refresh one to proc NG?

No. The primary beneficiary of NG is your Moonfire, which is why you want to hit IS to proc NG, then cast Moonfire/Sunfire so that it receives the benefit.

XtremeOmega · 05/10/12, 12:25 AM

Hi guys. I'm here once again to ask if (except the off-hand, because I was raiding with Ti'tahk (procs haste) instead) is there something wrong. I use the wrong back, since I had to go hybrid for a while, but now I changed to full balance.

My DPS is around 50k burst and 30~32k sustained (with the Ti'tahk, not the dagged as equipped).

Denroz @ Goldrinn - Game Guide - World of Warcraft

Thanks

saeedswat · 05/12/12, 4:03 AM

Originally Posted by Alafeya

The biggest thing I noticed in comparing your Ultraxion log to my own is your Nature's Grace and Eclipse % times are both significantly lower. Try to tighten up your rotation to maximize these buffs. It's quite a challenge on Ultraxion due to Fading Light, and you'll still have good pulls and bad pulls. FYI, my eclipse up time was close to 80% and Nature's Grace was over 60%. I have DTR, and the procs help with these, but you could still improve in that area. Also, Glyph of Focus is a DPS increase on Ultraxion.

May i have ur logs?

saeedswat · 05/12/12, 4:13 AM

Which one do u prefer ?
Variable Pulse Lightning Capacitor - Item - World of Warcraft
Will of Unbinding - Item - World of Warcraft
Darkmoon Card: Volcano - Item - World of Warcraft
Necromantic Focus - Item - World of Warcraft
Bottled Wishes - Item - World of Warcraft
Insignia of the Corrupted Mind - Item - World of Warcraft

really i cant decide which one is better

qae · 05/12/12, 12:56 PM

Will of the Unbinding will be first, of course, and Variable pulse capacitor second. The others are well behind.

Caoimhin · 05/26/12, 9:31 PM

Does anybody have any useful macros for a boomkin that might help to maximize use of the eclipse. I'm just starting 85 lvl heroics (just recently made 85) and anything I can get would be of assistance, except unnecessary criticism, of course.

Tuscarora · 06/23/12, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by thedopefishlives

You should always refresh your DoTs when you hit Eclipse to maximize the NG uptime. Outside of that, the generally accepted wisdom is to also refresh right before leaving Solar. I'm not sure if it was ever determined if it was worthwhile to refresh just before leaving Lunar.

If my understanding of what you're saying is right, that advice is wrong. The only situation where you should clip DoTs at the start of an Eclipse phase is if 1) it's Solar (because of buffed IS instead of non-buffed IS) 2) NG is down (so you don't lose uptime) and crucially 3) you're sure that you're going to refresh twice in that Eclipse anyway because of some boss mechanic. Refreshing DoTs when entering Eclipses is a waste of GCDs since you're refreshing too often in that case (and it doesn't improve NG uptime since you're always getting a full NG per Eclipse)

Optimal DoT refreshing aims to minimize amount of refreshes while keeping near 100% Eclipsed uptime. That's currently accomplished by:
1) Refreshing DoTs at the end of an Eclipse if they are going to expire before the next Eclipse phase.
2) Otherwise, refreshing DoTs when they expire.

Because of 1), when you refresh under condition 2) you're going to refresh on Eclipse.

Those conditions are not optimal under all situations but they're very close to being optimal.

Romner · 06/25/12, 9:18 PM

I have a couple of questions which I would be very grateful if you could answer.

- Why is Gale Winds always taken? I see an extreme minority of people without this talent, yet with the exception of some fights such as Madness where loads and loads of little adds spawn, Hurricane is never used. (And Typhoon is rarely used too, and obviously it's not for DPS)

- Why is Blessing of the Grove rarely chosen? It's clearly a DPS increase, albeit a very minor one, but a DPS increase all the same. If you don't need mana talents then I don't really see why more people aren't taking this.

- Greater Mastery or Haste on gloves? WrathCalcs shows a ~12 DPS increase with the mastery, but I am not sure if I have even seen someone with this enchant ever!