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Old 06/15/11, 4:42 PM   #31
Xenoborg
Von Kaiser
 
Tauren Druid
 
Illidan
I too got fed up with the limits of paging, to the point where one day I converted all my buttons to macros on static bars. For example the macro for my "t" key:
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/cast [stealth] Pounce; [stance:1] Growl; [stance:3] Savage Roar(Cat Form); Hibernate
It will show up as and cast Pounce when in stealth, taunt while in bear, roar while in cat, and hibernate while in moonkin/resto

This will make the button seem to page the same as normal paging bars, but gives allot more control since you are not restricted to a single bar. It also take a lot longer to setup and move where skills are so your mileage may vary.

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Old 06/18/11, 2:43 PM   #32
Blakhoof
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Sentinels
Just use the build in bar option, turn on the extra 5 bars, so you can have all 6 of your bars up at once, bar 1 will swap with form, so put bear, cat, boomkin specific abilities on that one, put buffs, defensive CD's like barkskin and such that can be used in any form on the other ones.

I tried using some of the other bar add ons, but found that they would glitch badly on some fights, with the stock bar setup, no issues. There are nicer cleaner setups, but if your having issues the stock interface can be set up to work fine.

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Old 06/20/11, 11:22 PM   #33
Astinea
Glass Joe
 
Human Paladin
 
Burning Legion
Call me new, but i have been playing around with my haste and haste rating. What should i be aiming for? Currently i have just under 9% haste.

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Old 06/28/11, 1:42 PM   #34
Psychowolf
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Rogue
 
Dark Iron
Quick question about Thick Hide cause I don't want to misunderstand it. Am I right to assume the 78% boost to Armor (3/3 Thick Hide) is a boost to ALL armor, including Armor on Trinkets and from Potions? I have neither of these at the moment as I'm just starting on getting more tank focused trinkets (currently using full Cat gear/gem/enchants for normal mode tanking and it's been working fine with a tank spec), and curious if this 78% (not the 10% to Cloth/Leather) is similar to the original Thick Hide boost back in BC.

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Old 06/28/11, 1:56 PM   #35
Ilmatar
Piston Honda
 
Worgen Druid
 
Feathermoon
Originally Posted by Psychowolf View Post
Am I right to assume the 78% boost to Armor (3/3 Thick Hide) is a boost to ALL armor, including Armor on Trinkets and from Potions?.
This is not correct. Thick Hide applies only to armor, not (what is called) "bonus armor". Any armor which comes from a cloth or leather item (ignoring enchants) gains the Thick Hide benefit. This does include cloaks, but does not include rings, trinkets, necklaces etc. I do not know about potions, but my guess is no. I just tested it, potions are considered bonus armor.

Last edited by Ilmatar : 06/28/11 at 7:52 PM.

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Old 06/28/11, 7:32 PM   #36
Psychowolf
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Rogue
 
Dark Iron
Originally Posted by Ilmatar View Post
This is not correct. Thick Hide applies only to armor, not (what is called) "bonus armor". Any armor which comes from a cloth or leather item (ignoring enchants) gains the Thick Hide benefit. This does include cloaks, but does not include rings, trinkets, necklaces etc. I do not know about potions, but my guess is no.
Alright thanks. The wording confused me cause it says both 10% to armor from cloth/leather, and 78% increase to "armor" while in bear form.

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Old 07/07/11, 11:47 PM   #37
Iceypoi
Glass Joe
 
Troll Druid
 
Earthen Ring
Just a simple question: What amount of dmg does Ferocious Bite do when it is used with a clearcasting proc? The same as 25 energy, 50 energy or something in between?

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Old 07/08/11, 6:50 AM   #38
Nelkanor
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Blade's Edge (EU)
It depends on your energy state at time of use. It will use the Clearcasting proc to give you a free FB with regards to its initial cost, namely the first 25 energy will be free. From there on, it will use whatever energy you have (up to 25) for additional damage. So, for any energy state over 25, a Clearcasting FB equals to a max energy FB, but costs only 25.

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Old 07/10/11, 10:27 PM   #39
Aceswild
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Korgath
I was talking to a rogue and is there a soft cap for crit rating? I am sitting at a crit rating of 1809. I was wondering if should reforge some of the crit i forged from haste

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Old 07/11/11, 3:02 AM   #40
kalja
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Druid
 
Steamwheedle Cartel
Ok i haven't seen anything on this so i will ask. I know for bear tanking you want the highest iLvL you can get with agi on it. would this include replacing some 353/359 pve items for some 371 pvp items till you can replace them with the pve upgreades? i am new to bear tanking and still learning so any and all advice would be great (my toon is US>Steemwheedle Cartel>Kalzan) Also how important is Exp/Hit i know with pally tanking you reforge everything out once you don't have problems with threat is it the same for bears or do you want to cap both since you are needing the hits to land for your procs?

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Old 07/11/11, 11:22 AM   #41
Finwe_Bear
Glass Joe
 
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Night Elf Druid
 
Lothar
Kalja, in most cases, a bear will find the 371 pvp items to be a small upgrade over the 359 pve pieces. The difference is very small, and you probably shouldn't go out looking for the pvp upgrades unless you have a lower ilvl piece in your set (346 or 353 items). The only exceptions would be breaking a set bonus or switching to a pvp item with a poor secondary stat (like haste). The benefit is slightly higher for armor pieces vs jewelry pieces, since the higher ilvl also affects the amount of armor on an item.

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Old 07/12/11, 12:32 AM   #42
kalbear
Bald Bull
 
Tauren Druid
 
Balnazzar
Kalja, in most cases, a bear will find the 371 pvp items to be a small upgrade over the 359 pve pieces. The difference is very small, and you probably shouldn't go out looking for the pvp upgrades unless you have a lower ilvl piece in your set (346 or 353 items).
This is actually pretty incorrect. By most gauges a 371 will be a good upgrade over a 359, and a huge upgrade over a 346. The main reason is not only the large difference in agility and stamina (41/61 agi/stam for an upgrade for a head/chest/legs spot, 33/45 for a glove/shoulder) but the difference in armor. Armor is one of the biggest wins for a bear in general, and an upgrade of 12 ilvls is a huge boost. 94 armor in this case. That doesn't sound like much, but with the bear multiplier that's a very large upgrade. The loss of secondary stats is minor and with reforging you actually get more avoidance over the other piece. What you lose is (at best) some mastery and SD and possibly a bit of threat.

In virtually every case for a bear the 371 pvp gear is more than a small upgrade over the 359 available gear. The only time this isn't as true is when the pve piece has mastery on it natively - and in that case keep in mind that dodge is 3-4 times more valuable than mastery, and agility is 4-5 times more valuable. Which means that in order for that pvp piece to be comparable you need to have (in the above example) 164 mastery on the piece - and that doesn't include the bonus stamina or armor.

Note that the above isn't true for any non-armor pieces. jewelry is not as big an upgrade compared to armor pieces, but depending on the piece can still be a win.

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Old 07/12/11, 9:33 AM   #43
TÃ dus
Glass Joe
 
Worgen Druid
 
Azuremyst (EU)
Hey there, posting from my phone so I appologize for any spelling mistakes; just curious on applying Savage Roar into the rotation, where does it come in? and have done so a few tines with a 5 cp savage roar but lots my 5 point rip to it? what's the solution for 100% uptime?

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Old 07/14/11, 10:11 AM   #44
Akutsito
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Ragnaros
I remember reading back in WoTLK that opening with SR (1pt) was an increase of dps, is this still the case? (so, Charge, Ravage, SR and start the rotation), or should i go for Rip (5pt) asap?.

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Old 07/14/11, 11:03 AM   #45
• Melthu
Confused
 
Troll Druid
 
Alterac Mountains
In WotLK Savage Roar increased all damage, so it only made sense to get it up as quickly as possible. Now that it only buffs auto-attacks you're better off going straight for a 5CP Rip.

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