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Old 09/06/11, 7:44 AM   #136
Pintofbrew
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Frostwhisper (EU)
I'd like to ask for some relative theorycraft regarding how the value of Furor vs. Moonglow changes when gaining 2pT12. Before 4.2 it was understood that your point investment in MG would result in a net mana gain provided encounter length passed a low threshold, which in turn meant MG was always a better choice. Now that 2pT12 is a flat % of mana, does this push Furror into an equal/better point investment?

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Old 09/06/11, 8:30 AM   #137
Erdluf
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Night Elf Druid
 
Echo Isles
Wowhead says 2pt12 yields a percentage of base mana. Unless that has changed, it favors Moonglow. 4pt11 also favored Moonglow, but according to TreeCalcs, the effect was not as large.

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Old 09/13/11, 7:59 AM   #138
Lingering
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Earthen Ring (EU)
ok so maths is destroying my brain today, so please do clarify something for me:

Do you have to have mastery to a % before it has effect?

So is it worth me working on rounding my Mastery or just dump excess into it? How much Mastery do you need for 19 and 20% and pleasse show me the calc for it.

Thanks all... Zan

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Old 09/13/11, 6:10 PM   #139
Zenigen
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Night Elf Druid
 
Ursin
There is no reason to specifically round your Mastery number and/or percent, as it still gains benefit from adding more Mastery, even if it isn't a round number percent. The tooltip just doesn't show decimal points for Mastery %.

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Old 09/14/11, 5:05 AM   #140
Lingering
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Earthen Ring (EU)
Ok if people are sure, other classes DO get decimal points hence my confusion.

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Old 09/15/11, 12:57 PM   #141
tmenzel
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Khadgar
Mastery

I think you may still be confused. Every point of Mastery Rating will be of value to you.

The game does not do a good job of displaying this to you, but you are gaining benefit mathematically from any additional mastery. No "breakpoint", and no "whole numbers" are important to your Mastery Rating.

And so far as I know, this is true of every spec and every class.

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Old 09/15/11, 2:49 PM   #142
 Hamlet
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Mal'Ganis
As far as I know it is too, although I don't know if they have the same display issue on their character sheets. Moonkin are often confused though since there actually was a patch cycle where it did round.


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Old 09/20/11, 3:24 PM   #143
tmenzel
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Khadgar
Does anyone know the (measured) proc chance of the 2xT12 under ToL?

I'd swear I remember that being discussed in one of the threads (the proc chance when in ToL is lower than otherwise, to compensate for the fact that you can spread LB to many more targets). However, I can't find any source that confirms just how much the proc chance is reduced.

If the proc chance was 5% in ToL instead of the normal 40%, you'd need to have LB on 8 targets in order to get the same regen from the 2xT12.

Obviously one could say that keeping LB on as many targets as possible is optimal, however many that happens to be. But I'd like to have a way to compare the expected performance of the 2xT12 under ToL with its normal behavior.

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Old 09/27/11, 8:23 AM   #144
jengholm
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Night Elf Druid
 
Silvermoon (EU)
Trinket

Hi all,

I need a little help to choose the right trinket.

Engholm @ Bronzebeard - Game - World of Warcraft

At the moment I have these two

Darkmoon Card: Tsunami - Item - World of Warcraft
Vibrant Alchemist Stone - Item - World of Warcraft

I have access to these two as well

Fiery Quintessence Fiery Quintessence - Item - World of Warcraft
Moonwell Chalice Moonwell Chalice - Item - World of Warcraft

In most boss fights I am almost OOM at the end. I am healing raid

When it comes to play style I perfer not to have to time the use of the trinkets, but I will of cause not miss out on a lot of healing.

I am leaning towards the Moonwell Chalice, but I am afraid to lose the 540 sprit from the Tsunami card.

Thx in advance.

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Old 09/30/11, 9:58 AM   #145
Mesitara
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Ahn'Qiraj (EU)
I'm wondering if there's an addon which calculates distribution and average number of Wild Growth targets. That would help to see the effect of WG glyph.
Edit. Thanks for tip of checking WoL. Hoped to get the answer in easier way though,
I was asking because most of the time I saw 2-3 people+pets getting it. Probably worms and other guardians were eating it.

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Old 09/30/11, 10:14 AM   #146
 Hamlet
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Originally Posted by Mesitara View Post
I'm wondering if there's an addon which calculates distribution and average number of Wild Growth targets. That would help to see the effect of WG glyph.
You could by parsing log, just checking for applications of the WG buff. The spell's cooldown will make it easy to tell how many targets are in each batch.

It has to be very close to 6 though, just given the huge radius that it uses.


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Old 09/30/11, 11:03 AM   #147
Hotfixmon
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Troll Druid
 
Kirin Tor
Hi all,

Between the 4.2 crit buff and planned 4.3 WG nerf, the 2005 haste breakpoint will no longer be the clear goal for all, yes? After the 916 breakpoint, we should reforge into Mastery (for predictable throughput increase) or Crit (if you also like to flip fortune cards)?

Thanks!

HFM

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Old 10/03/11, 2:13 PM   #148
ChickenSuit
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Mal'Ganis
Seeing as how 2005 is so easy to get in firelands gear and our efflorescence needs the same breakpoint, I'll be keeping it. Also I don't want to nerf my WG anymore than it has been. There's still a lot of ptr time left. I wouldn't plan on anything too specific yet.

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Old 10/28/11, 5:34 PM   #149
boeggla
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Night Elf Druid
 
Todeswache (EU)
Hey guys,

long time quiet reader...my quild usually does not take logs, but today I happened to be listed in a raid where I joined random.
It is maybe quite low level for most of you, 10 normal FL... anyway I would be happy to collect any feedback!
Some remarks from anybody?
World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

I think I am doing quite fine for my level, but as I said, happy to learn something. In the heat of a fight I guess many things go wrong

- Rhyolith I was running with the meeles, a little low healing
- Alysrazar had two healers on the other tank, I was alone, a little higher healing
- Baloroc nothing special, three healers though
- Majordomus nothing special.

regards, Boeggla

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Old 10/30/11, 12:03 PM   #150
thedudeabides
Von Kaiser
 
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Draenei Paladin
 
Stormrage
If I cast tranquility during the last 1-2 seconds of Tree of Life, will the entire channeled spell benefit from +15% healing buff or does it recalculate my healing coefficient each tick? I assume the answer also applies to Power Torrent and Trinket procs.

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