[Feral-Cat] 4.2 Fire Cat funtimes (OLD) - Page 5

TheJinchuuriki · 07/19/11, 3:53 PM

There seem to be alot of opinions that its a non-issue that clearly berserk is best suited for a full energy bar and that other computations are berserk blastphamy and 100% un-needed, however as i note by my shotty napkin math its only a difference of 2000 total damage, over coarse of the two 46 second time intervals that boils down to 43 dps, a VERY close contender in my opinion. If this comparison is THAT close to the full energy berserk it is certainly worth looking into.

@Vaccine I was pretty sure it was clear that the rotation was to TF-->burn to 12 energy-->berserk+rip(with tf buff) to begin fb spam rotation, and once again it was only to be considered w/ heroism's energy gains. Obviously a single TF doesn't merit 6 gcds worth of constant actions, however if your leading into a berserk i do not see how you would lose active time by choosing when you lead into berserk.
Just incase that somehow is still difficult to grasp, it would be option a: tf-->zerk option b:tf-->burn to ~20 energy-->zerk; either way your tf gcd's should be full.

@Vaccine "You've used minus 60 energy as your starting point. That energy must be spent outside of Berserk then, as opposed to the model spending it inside Berserk. That 60 energy will be spent on non-Berserk Shreds instead. Therefore without doing any math other than knowing that the conversion on FB is better DPE than Shred, I already know which is the better scenario. "
The major point is that even without a full energy bar to begin the ration you could continue to shred/rake/fb on every cd of berserk. Once again the difference in total damage output was only ~2000 damage over 46 seconds, enough to merit investigation.
The numbers I used sourced from my previous post entailing a break down of the dpe of shred+fb, which sourced from Simcraft; when I attempted to run the same test in Mew i found that mew's expression of the dps of abilites is misleading as it partains to the amount of dps relative to the breakdown, not the damage per execute time of attacks. I could likely be looking in the wrong place for a damage per execute time, but without having a solid grasp on the dps of shred + FB I did not feel comfortable calculating the different dpe's of FB during berserk. The previous calculations are using The dps per ability based on Simcraft divided by the energy cost of each ability; I suppose you could get the dpE of each ability from mew and multiply by the energy required to find the dps, ill retest this way and see how the results come.

@byjiang "Without 4pT12, TF 0~5s before berserk doesn't lose you TF uptime"
The reason you lose up-time is because any time you add is more time between uses of tiger's fury, since you cannot use tiger's fury during berserk and berserk's duration is much longer than the cooldown of tiger's fury, anything other than using tiger's fury immediately before and after berserk will cause a loss of uptime, a dps loss I have not accounted for. Unless this 5second difference is enough to lose/gain a total tiger's fury over the coarse of the fight, it would have no affect.

@byjiang " There is no way your "higher DPE FB" is going to make up for the effective energy lost in not having a full energy bar."
The founding point of the comparison is that no energy is 'lost' in either situation; the berserk+heroism energy flow should sustain the rotation regardless of how much energy you start with.

If something I have posted is confusing and you are having a difficult time grasping it, I humbly plea that you pst me for deatils vs cluttering the forum. Also, before posting against my posts please read them in depth, several of my replies have been re-stating things that someone skipped over or failed to read before posting.

Dragilion · 07/21/11, 4:37 AM

Ive never done a post here before, im just reading around abit but i would concider myself as a high end raider feral cat with world 100 ranks in 25 man last tier and currently around the same with some kills like beth'tilac world 70. Ive been testing alot of gear setups and theorycrafted alot sins the changes and what i find being the most optimal is beeing atleast softcaped for hit/expertise due to the mixes of boss encounters you dont want to miss a finisher when its time to move to a new target etc.

With this taken in concideration ive been checking the end bis gear and found out that haste is the best stat to go for combined with a decent amount of crit and mastery. The key is atleast to have haste as our prime stat to proc of Ragnaros trinket, this is a huge dps boost to be able to use. Im currently not going either for the 4th set T12 due to alot of mobility fights and imo u dont get all the time you need to make it worth it. 2 set is pro though with shoulder/gloves as sets to be able to get haste head from Lord, haste legs from Beth and haste chest from Baleroc. I personaly think blizzard made us realy fun this tier, giving us fire staff and a comparable dps output. Now i just need to convince the locks to give me dark intent aswell and im golden

Ive been able to have over 30k dps on baleroc ( World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis )and today we begin progress on baleroc 25hc, we have live logs at all times so if you want feel free to check there if it helps you to figure out stuf of your own. My guild is Aurora Borealis @ Grim Batol EU.

pychodruid · 07/23/11, 8:47 AM

Can someone post the values of the secondary stats when;
T11 2 Set + T12 2 set.
T12 2 Set + Offpieces.
T12 4 Set.

Or something along the lines of:
For ever X mastery, crit increases to Y, haste decreases by Z
For ever W haste, hit and expertise increases to X, crit increases by Y, and Mastery decreases by Z.

Has anyone noticed if Primal madness is working properly? TFed pre-beserk and had the 20 extra energy, but when TF ended i lost the energy. I know TF and then Berserking wont stack the Primal madness buff (resulting in 40 energy) but shouldn't i still have the 20 energy during my berserk duration. But i may never of noticed it before if it used to do this.

Herb · 07/23/11, 8:44 PM

Rake currently hits, then immediately ticks at 0 seconds (so it effectively deals 5 x (56 + 14.7% AP) damage) - the AP-scaling change is in the patch notes, but the additional 0-second-tick seems strange: is that a bug?

Cluey · 07/25/11, 1:00 AM

Originally Posted by Herb

Rake currently hits, then immediately ticks at 0 seconds (so it effectively deals 5 x (56 + 14.7% AP) damage) - the AP-scaling change is in the patch notes, but the additional 0-second-tick seems strange: is that a bug?

Given the way the patch notes are worded I thought it was obvious that that would be the result, so not a bug.

Rake initial damage on hit now deals the same damage as each periodic tick (and is treated the same for all combat calculations). Periodic damage now gains 14.7% of attack power per tick, up from 12.6%, and base damage per tick has been lowered from 557 to 56. There is a known issue with Rake's tooltip being incorrect from this change will be corrected in a future patch.

david0925 · 07/25/11, 9:26 AM

I think people are interpreting it as "the initial damage of Rake will hit as hard as the periodic tick" and not "the initial application rake will also deal another tick in addition to the frontend damage". I know I assumed it to be the former.

I don't think this changes anything that we do, however, so it's a nice little buff.

ceelion22 · 07/25/11, 8:57 PM

Concerning [Ricket's Magnetic Fireball] the Equip is a meteor that hits for ~350 and can crit (I've seen up to 600 dmg from it). The interesting thing is the Use doesn't share the usual CD with other trinkets/tinkers. So you can macro it to go off with your other trinkets, etc. Personally I have TF+Synapse Springs and this macro'd together.

Vaccine · 07/26/11, 5:24 AM

I doubt that will last, the caster version had the same issue of not sharing cooldowns with other items and has already been hotfixed.

ceelion22 · 07/26/11, 5:19 PM

Originally Posted by Vaccine

I doubt that will last, the caster version had the same issue of not sharing cooldowns with other items and has already been hotfixed.

So far it still works with my springs, I don't have another use trinket to test that part of it though.

yakut · 07/28/11, 6:09 PM

Originally Posted by Vaccine

The proc on Unheeded is incredibly strong especially after the weapon % buffs we got on abilities in 4.2, which is why its still up there as a 359. I've read a lot of complaints about Ferals in arena recently and lots seem to hinge around this trinket so I wouldn't be suprised if it took a major hit shortly, but for now its above the 378 trinkets.

I suspect, but would need confirmation on this, that the reason it is too strong (Unheeded Warning) is because the proc looks like it's over budget. If I do napkin math, it suggests that the value should be closer to 490 weapon damage (vs the current 680) for an item of ilvl 359.

Confirmation would be helpful.

Obblivion · 08/02/11, 1:16 PM

With the Mew topic locked, I hope it's ok to post it here...
I'm getting very wierd stat weights for haste, here's a report:

{BonusArmor=0, WeaponSpeed=100000, Strength=112, Talent.Survival Instincts=1, BloodInTheWaterTime=0.25, Buff.UnholyFrenzy=false, Debuff.Armor=true, Mew.Class=yawning.mew.cat.CatModelSimulation, Buff.Crit=true, Talent.Pulverize=0, Talent.Perseverance=0, Glyph of Mangle=false, Talent.Berserk=1, Target.CastInterval=0, Bug.BerserkProcRate=true, Stamina=6345, Talent.Heart of the Wild=3, Simulator.Rebirth=false, Glyph of Frenzied Regeneration=false, DodgeRating=0, Talent.Fury Swipes=3, Talent.Primal Fury=2, TalentSpec=Feral Combat, Simulator.Threads=0, Buff.DarkIntent=true, Buff.MajorHaste=true, Buff.Stamina=true, Buff.PhysicalDamageIncoming=true, Simulator.PrePotion=true, Simulator.FeralChargeTravelTime=0, Talent.Endless Carnage=2, Talent.Furor=2, Target.CastLength=0, Debuff.SpellVuln=true, Pivot.StatScale=0, Simulator.AssumeExternalBleed=true, Talent.Thick Hide=0, Procs.potion=80495, Glyph of Berserk=true, Buff.TricksOfTheTrade=false, Pivot.GenerateRsv=true, Glyph of Shred=true, MetaGem=Agile, Buff.APMult=true, Glyph of Lacerate=false, Debuff.SpellCrit=true, Talent.Feral Aggression=2, Race=Night Elf, Talent.Predatory Strikes=2, Simulator.PRNG=org.apache.commons.math.random.Well19937c, Buff.StatMult=true, Talent.Stampede=2, HasteRating=1608, Talent.Blood in the Water=2, MasteryRating=1293, Talent.Master Shapeshifter=1, Talent.Natural Reaction=0, ExpertiseRating=782, Procs.items=69001,59520, Simulator.StrategyArg=, Debuff.PhysVuln=true, Simulator.AssumeExternalFF=true, Talent.Feral Swiftness=2, Buff.AgiStr=true, Level=85, Bug.GlyphOfShredSimCraft=true, Debuff.BleedDmg=true, Simulator.Iterations=50000, Glyph of Rip=true, Simulator.Tranquility=false, Armor=11147, Tier_12_4pc=false, Simulator.DurationJitter=0, Talent.Feral Charge=1, Agility=5816, Glyph of Tiger's Fury=false, Tier_12_2pc=true, Simulator.AggressiveFeralCharge=false, AttackPower=445, WeaponTop=74397, ArmorSpec=true, Simulator.HighResHz=false, Bug.PooledProcEffects=true, Simulator.Duration=420, WeaponBottom=74395, Debuff.ShatteringThrow=false, Simulator.GenerateLog=false, Buff.SpellHaste=true, Tier_11_4pc=false, Class=Druid, Simulator.AssumeExternalMangle=true, Talent.Primal Madness=2, Buff.MeleeHaste=true, Glyph of Savage Roar=false, Talent.Rend and Tear=3, Talent.Leader of the Pack=1, Glyph of Feral Charge=true, Simulator.FrontalAttacks=false, HitRating=961, Tier_11_2pc=true, Pivot.ReseedPRNG=false, Talent.Infected Wounds=0, Talent.King of the Jungle=3, PvP_gloves=false, Buff.DamageMult=true, Talent.Brutal Impact=2, Buff.Armor=true, CritRating=1059}

DPS: 31244.37328 +/- 5.32201
Min/Max DPS: 28835.3381 / 33837.16667
StdDev: 607.16151

DPS (> 25%): 29684.93222
DPS (< 25%): 35922.69646

External Buffs:
 Heroism uptime: 9.52381%

Resource Stats:
 Energy:
  Energy gained: 5925.74572
   Passive: 5009
   King of the Jungle: 840
   Primal Madness: 76.74572
    Average energy gain: 4.51445
  Energy overflow: 15.29482
  Energy spent: 5992.20688
  Omen of Clarity:
   Nr. OoC procs: 32.10042
    Procs spent: 31.80102
    Procs wasted: 0.29016
   Effective PPM: 4.58577
   Average energy return: 34.9467
  Berserk:
   Nr. Berserks: 3
   Average duration: 25 sec
   Uptime: 17.85714%
  Effective regen. rate: 17.9567 e/s
 Combo Points:
  Combo Points gained: 247.5802
   Primal Fury: 72.76336
  Combo Points overflow: 51.21376
  Combo Points spent: 194.40456
  Gen. rate: 0.58948 cp/s

Ability Overview:
 White Attack damage: 21.14915%
  Uptime: 100%
  Swing timer: 0.76364 sec
 Fury Swipes damage: 3.74161%
  Interval: 7.51732 sec
 Ravage damage: 0.43112%
 Shred damage: 28.94981%
  Energy spent: 64.39791%
  OoC spent: 87.85038%
  DPE: 658.45132
 Rake damage: 16.84155%
  Energy spent: 14.90301%
  OoC spent: 4.14494%
  DPE: 2139.79089
 Rip damage: 19.30164%
  Energy spent: 5.36792%
  OoC spent: 4.01912%
  CPs spent: 33.37979%
  DPE: 4781.10087
 Ferocious Bite damage: 6.11834%
  Energy spent: 10.02695%
  OoC spent: 3.94974%
  CPs spent: 46.41471%
  DPE: 1073.9789
 Savage Roar:
  Energy spent: 5.13732%
  CPs spent: 20.2055%
  DPE: 3571.36113
 Fiery Claws damage: 3.46679%

Tiger's Fury:
 Nr. Tiger's Furys: 14
 Interval: 30 sec
 Uptime: 19.99999%
 Ravage coverage: 95.098%
 Shred coverage: 31.43498%
 Rake coverage: 39.84201%
 Rip coverage: 29.23347%
 Ferocious Bite coverage: 37.23143%

Feral Charge:
 Nr. Feral Charges: 1

Savage Roar:
 Nr. Savage Roars: 13.66162
 Average CP cost: 2.42884
 Uptime: 97.22463%

Target - Yawningstraza:
 Target Debuffs:
  Major Armor uptime: 100%
  Bleed Damage uptime: 100%

 White Attack:
  DPS: 6605.96884
  Nr. White Attacks: 550
  Miss/Dodge/Glance/Crit/Hit: 0%/0%/24.00142%/40.82327%/35.17531%
  Average damage: 5044.55802

 Fury Swipes:
  DPS: 1169.00991
  Nr. Fury Swipes: 56.27214
  Miss/Dodge/Crit/Hit: 0%/0%/40.81377%/59.18623%
  Average damage: 8725.19682

 Ravage:
  DPS: 134.65214
  Nr. Ravages: 1
  Miss/Dodge/Crit/Hit: 0%/0%/97.406%/2.594%
  Average damage: 56553.89954

 Shred:
  DPS: 9047.40965
  Nr. Shreds: 144.29992
  Miss/Dodge/Crit/Hit: 0%/0%/41.30305%/58.69695%
  Average damage: 26338.05264

 Rake:
  DPS: 5260.96123
  Direct Damage:
   DPS: 848.79711
   Nr. Rakes: 29.51692
  Miss/Dodge/Crit/Hit: 0%/0%/41.37515%/58.62485%
   Average damage: 12079.47424
  DoT:
   DPS: 4412.16412
   Nr. Ticks: 138.79874
   Crit/Hit: 41.43069%/58.56931%
   Average damage: 13351.11824
  Uptime: 99.54424%

 Rip:
  DPS: 6029.84005
  Nr. Rips: 12.95918
   Nr. Rips (> 25%): 12.94594
   Nr. Rips (< 25%): 0.01324
  Miss/Dodge/Hit: 0%/0%/100%
  DoT:
   DPS: 6029.84005
   Nr. Ticks: 201.87698
   Crit/Hit: 41.08984%/58.91016%
   Average damage: 12544.55262
  Uptime: 96.37459%

 Ferocious Bite:
  DPS: 1912.94161
  Nr. Ferocious Bites: 18.14584
   Nr. Ferocious Bites (> 25%): 8.44426
   Nr. Ferocious Bites (< 25%): 9.70158
  Miss/Dodge/Crit/Hit: 0%/0%/67.57935%/32.42065%
  Average extra energy: 16.25697
  Average damage: 44309.71947

 Fiery Claws:
  DPS: 1083.58986
  Nr. Ticks: 172.9803
  Nr. rolled: 20.21488
   Rolled damage: 78003.23006
  Average damage: 2631.79149

Trinkets/Procs:
 Ancient Petrified Seed (378) uptime: 25%
 Potion of the Tol'vir uptime: 11.90476%
 Unheeded Warning uptime: 18.93067%


Elapsed Time: 874.970156794 seconds

Relative Stat Values:

Strength: 1.4757444089995244 +/- 0.07542388713249508
Agility: 3.8758597085699513 +/- 0.07564349719202243
Attack Power: 1.4054708657138326 +/- 0.07542388713249508
Haste Rating: 0.1474267314260942 +/- 0.07524412662710073
Crit Rating: 1.292475989046943 +/- 0.07534573329253176
Mastery Rating: 1.3344734938059992 +/- 0.07535353454215994
Hit Rating: 1.2687680239829322 +/- 0.0078346724908752
Expertise Rating: 1.2663645483813657 +/- 0.009628749480549315
Weapon DPS: 6.737508699521313 +/- 0.07614146826967777

Mew-20110726
I'm just wondering if I'm somehow doing something wrong myself or could it be something to do with haste breakpoints (surely not? or at least it wouldn't affect the weight so much) or a bug?

Edit: I just noticed it reports weapon speed as 100000, but that shouldn't matter much?
I did import from armory and all I changed was taking 3 pts from Perseverance (have them there for heroic rhyolith) and put them 1 to Furor and 2 to Brutal Impact, toggled raid buffs on, feast, flask and double potting on

Edit2: Swapping Ancient Petrified Seed with The Hungerer (both normal) seemed to fix it. I also added 20% Encounter Duration Randomization, but doubt that changed haste value. Just in case, report with normal weights:

{BonusArmor=0, WeaponSpeed=100000, Strength=112, Talent.Survival Instincts=1, BloodInTheWaterTime=0.25, Buff.UnholyFrenzy=false, Debuff.Armor=true, Mew.Class=yawning.mew.cat.CatModelSimulation, Buff.Crit=true, Talent.Pulverize=0, Talent.Perseverance=0, Glyph of Mangle=false, Talent.Berserk=1, Target.CastInterval=0, Bug.BerserkProcRate=true, Stamina=6345, Talent.Heart of the Wild=3, Simulator.Rebirth=false, Glyph of Frenzied Regeneration=false, DodgeRating=0, Talent.Fury Swipes=3, Talent.Primal Fury=2, TalentSpec=Feral Combat, Simulator.Threads=0, Buff.DarkIntent=true, Buff.MajorHaste=true, Buff.Stamina=true, Buff.PhysicalDamageIncoming=true, Simulator.PrePotion=true, Simulator.FeralChargeTravelTime=0, Talent.Endless Carnage=2, Talent.Furor=2, Target.CastLength=0, Debuff.SpellVuln=true, Pivot.StatScale=0, Simulator.AssumeExternalBleed=true, Talent.Thick Hide=0, Procs.potion=80495, Glyph of Berserk=true, Buff.TricksOfTheTrade=false, Pivot.GenerateRsv=true, Glyph of Shred=true, MetaGem=Agile, Buff.APMult=true, Glyph of Lacerate=false, Debuff.SpellCrit=true, Talent.Feral Aggression=2, Race=Night Elf, Talent.Predatory Strikes=2, Simulator.PRNG=org.apache.commons.math.random.Well19937c, Buff.StatMult=true, Talent.Stampede=2, HasteRating=1455, Talent.Blood in the Water=2, MasteryRating=1063, Talent.Master Shapeshifter=1, Talent.Natural Reaction=0, ExpertiseRating=782, Procs.items=68927,59520, Simulator.StrategyArg=, Debuff.PhysVuln=true, Simulator.AssumeExternalFF=true, Talent.Feral Swiftness=2, Buff.AgiStr=true, Level=85, Bug.GlyphOfShredSimCraft=true, Debuff.BleedDmg=true, Simulator.Iterations=50000, Glyph of Rip=true, Simulator.Tranquility=false, Armor=11147, Tier_12_4pc=false, Simulator.DurationJitter=20, Talent.Feral Charge=1, Agility=6199, Glyph of Tiger's Fury=false, Tier_12_2pc=true, Simulator.AggressiveFeralCharge=false, AttackPower=445, WeaponTop=74397, ArmorSpec=true, Simulator.HighResHz=false, Bug.PooledProcEffects=true, Simulator.Duration=420, WeaponBottom=74395, Debuff.ShatteringThrow=false, Simulator.GenerateLog=false, Buff.SpellHaste=true, Tier_11_4pc=false, Class=Druid, Simulator.AssumeExternalMangle=true, Talent.Primal Madness=2, Buff.MeleeHaste=true, Glyph of Savage Roar=false, Talent.Rend and Tear=3, Talent.Leader of the Pack=1, Glyph of Feral Charge=true, Simulator.FrontalAttacks=false, HitRating=961, Tier_11_2pc=true, Pivot.ReseedPRNG=false, Talent.Infected Wounds=0, Talent.King of the Jungle=3, PvP_gloves=false, Buff.DamageMult=true, Talent.Brutal Impact=2, Buff.Armor=true, CritRating=1059}

DPS: 31071.90583 +/- 5.44272
Min/Max DPS: 28732.9575 / 33701.35525
StdDev: 620.93329

DPS (> 25%): 29386.18881
DPS (< 25%): 36129.05687

External Buffs:
 Heroism uptime: 9.53277%

Resource Stats:
 Energy:
  Energy gained: 6028.23634
   Passive: 5091.87034
   King of the Jungle: 853.326
   Primal Madness: 83.04
    Average energy gain: 4.81953
  Energy overflow: 14.08042
  Energy spent: 6093.9655
  Omen of Clarity:
   Nr. OoC procs: 32.65808
    Procs spent: 32.3518
    Procs wasted: 0.28612
   Effective PPM: 4.66011
   Average energy return: 35.04733
  Berserk:
   Nr. Berserks: 2.99836
   Average duration: 24.81166 sec
   Uptime: 17.7148%
  Effective regen. rate: 18.21564 e/s
 Combo Points:
  Combo Points gained: 250.74124
   Primal Fury: 73.44204
  Combo Points overflow: 52.21826
  Combo Points spent: 196.49916
  Gen. rate: 0.59645 cp/s

Ability Overview:
 White Attack damage: 21.75064%
  Uptime: 100%
  Swing timer: 0.7516 sec
 Fury Swipes damage: 3.75094%
  Interval: 7.57934 sec
 Ravage damage: 0.40141%
 Shred damage: 29.42269%
  Energy spent: 64.37032%
  OoC spent: 88.5467%
  DPE: 655.18404
 Rake damage: 16.18172%
  Energy spent: 14.69213%
  OoC spent: 4.2393%
  DPE: 2041.99702
 Rip damage: 18.82415%
  Energy spent: 5.45924%
  OoC spent: 3.25874%
  CPs spent: 33.40908%
  DPE: 4601.66025
 Ferocious Bite damage: 6.13501%
  Energy spent: 10.25307%
  OoC spent: 3.92182%
  CPs spent: 46.48815%
  DPE: 1040.49899
 Savage Roar:
  Energy spent: 5.06082%
  CPs spent: 20.10277%
  DPE: 3656.85326
 Fiery Claws damage: 3.53344%

Tiger's Fury:
 Nr. Tiger's Furys: 14.2221
 Interval: 29.57744 sec
 Uptime: 20.15185%
 Ravage coverage: 95.148%
 Shred coverage: 31.59504%
 Rake coverage: 38.56134%
 Rip coverage: 30.74266%
 Ferocious Bite coverage: 38.5059%

Feral Charge:
 Nr. Feral Charges: 1

Savage Roar:
 Nr. Savage Roars: 13.67716
 Average CP cost: 2.43692
 Uptime: 97.48226%

Target - Yawningstraza:
 Target Debuffs:
  Major Armor uptime: 100%
  Bleed Damage uptime: 100%

 White Attack:
  DPS: 6756.30053
  Nr. White Attacks: 559.43306
  Miss/Dodge/Glance/Crit/Hit: 0%/0%/23.99743%/41.03343%/34.96914%
  Average damage: 5077.99434

 Fury Swipes:
  DPS: 1165.44258
  Nr. Fury Swipes: 55.86258
  Miss/Dodge/Crit/Hit: 0%/0%/41.00718%/58.99282%
  Average damage: 8772.32961

 Ravage:
  DPS: 124.71356
  Nr. Ravages: 1
  Miss/Dodge/Crit/Hit: 0%/0%/94.372%/5.628%
  Average damage: 52330.01352

 Shred:
  DPS: 9144.82408
  Nr. Shreds: 146.71234
  Miss/Dodge/Crit/Hit: 0%/0%/41.15521%/58.84479%
  Average damage: 26207.3616

 Rake:
  DPS: 5026.70728
  Direct Damage:
   DPS: 813.32682
   Nr. Rakes: 29.58686
  Miss/Dodge/Crit/Hit: 0%/0%/41.05275%/58.94725%
   Average damage: 11559.58356
  DoT:
   DPS: 4213.38046
   Nr. Ticks: 139.33154
   Crit/Hit: 41.04825%/58.95175%
   Average damage: 12715.82287
  Uptime: 99.6277%

 Rip:
  DPS: 5847.82411
  Nr. Rips: 13.1137
   Nr. Rips (> 25%): 13.07322
   Nr. Rips (< 25%): 0.04048
  Miss/Dodge/Hit: 0%/0%/100%
  DoT:
   DPS: 5847.82411
   Nr. Ticks: 202.39564
   Crit/Hit: 41.00632%/58.99368%
   Average damage: 12149.76139
  Uptime: 96.50234%

 Ferocious Bite:
  DPS: 1907.72273
  Nr. Ferocious Bites: 18.35432
   Nr. Ferocious Bites (> 25%): 8.50208
   Nr. Ferocious Bites (< 25%): 9.85224
  Miss/Dodge/Crit/Hit: 0%/0%/66.78019%/33.21981%
  Average extra energy: 17.00205
  Average damage: 43707.81656

 Fiery Claws:
  DPS: 1098.37096
  Nr. Ticks: 174.50698
  Nr. rolled: 20.81896
   Rolled damage: 81675.4771
  Average damage: 2647.45476

Trinkets/Procs:
 Potion of the Tol'vir uptime: 11.91597%
 The Hungerer (378) uptime: 24.11105%
 Unheeded Warning uptime: 18.93444%


Elapsed Time: 860.561326888 seconds

Relative Stat Values:

Strength: 1.4687073630698124 +/- 0.07713248011717151
Agility: 3.888946889564977 +/- 0.07746788875763462
Attack Power: 1.3987689172093452 +/- 0.07713248011717151
Haste Rating: 1.429106240520632 +/- 0.07727135934574768
Crit Rating: 1.299566635438059 +/- 0.07720547826498397
Mastery Rating: 1.3208637717151577 +/- 0.07704271682291264
Hit Rating: 1.2757466481610915 +/- 0.007999286038431147
Expertise Rating: 1.2745750816904031 +/- 0.009861498300900785
Weapon DPS: 6.8384641910305435 +/- 0.07789674023791854

Hinalover · 08/03/11, 4:38 PM

I would like to notify the Feral community that the Unheeded Warning has been changed. The trinket was changed from 680 Weapon damage proc to a 2648 AP proc. As of this writing it does not appear that it has hit the US servers YET but it does appear to have hit the EU servers already.

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I don't suspect the proc rate has changed though.

edit: once the patch makes it to the US servers I'll do some more testing.

Reesi · 08/03/11, 4:41 PM

The testing was done with a Cat Spec, as noted by the buffs. The proc is approximately 1926 AP, not 2648 AP (Feral Aggression and Heart of the Wild modifiers). 2648 AP would be absurd.

Duilliath · 08/04/11, 5:07 AM

1926 is correct and in line with the other trinkets of the tier. So while it drops Shred/Mangle damage by a lot, FB/Rake/Rip will be affected. The change is more than plenty to drop it out of the top list of trinkets though. Might be a bit weak compared to other 359 trinkets (seeing how other trinkets proc Haste/Crit), but it's definitely closer to where it should be for its ilevel.

Additionally, this will tone down Feral (and Rogue) burst in Arena a fair amount.

Koril · 08/04/11, 11:52 AM

I'm on EU server so I tested out myself, I have 2860 AP up from 452 in caster form. Taking in account agressivity 25% bonus, the proc is actualy (2860-452)/1.23=1926.

Assuming the ICD didn't change, and assuming perfect uptime for both, the Napkin math suggests UW is now a ~70 DPS loss compared to Fluid Death. It's now in line with 359 trinkets, I think it's more fair that what it was. Let's just get firelands trinkets. :p