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Old 07/03/11, 8:36 PM   #46
Greentouch
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Tauren Druid
 
Kel'Thuzad
Its a free (no mana no gcd) smart Swiftmend every 15 seconds. I guarantee it will save lives on some tough progression, for once its a tier bonus that actually can make a real difference saving lives, rather then just a bit of meter padding.

It's actually worth more, in my opinion, then the 5% or whatever you get from it on the meter.

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Old 07/03/11, 9:25 PM   #47
♦ Carebare
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Tauren Druid
 
Mal'Ganis
I also like how they've staggered the bonuses this expansion. Like you break your 4 piece mana bonus and pick up the 2 piece mana bonus, then get a 4 piece throughput bonus. Hopefully they'll invert that for next tier. It's a nice break from T8/T9 where you were definitely not breaking 4 piece until you had your next 4.

<Nite_Moogle> i miss raiding with carebare :< she makes me feel like i am not the only person that hates everyone
Aldriana: I am an asshole, it just so happens that some of my colleagues are even *bigger* assholes.
[R] [85:Neux:2]: i hear if you die on Good Friday they are going to make it where you can't get rezzed until easter sunday
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Old 07/05/11, 6:15 PM   #48
Kluian
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Tauren Druid
 
Korgath
For people not aware the reputation gear can be upgraded by the firestones. Oddly it works differently that the relic slot / trash boes. Instead of a vendor you just right click the firestone on the item.

http://www.img-share.net/uploads/16388gmfirestones.jpg


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Old 07/05/11, 6:23 PM   #49
♦ Carebare
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Mal'Ganis
Thanks, I think I updated the list correctly. If not, someone PM me where I screwed up.

<Nite_Moogle> i miss raiding with carebare :< she makes me feel like i am not the only person that hates everyone
Aldriana: I am an asshole, it just so happens that some of my colleagues are even *bigger* assholes.
[R] [85:Neux:2]: i hear if you die on Good Friday they are going to make it where you can't get rezzed until easter sunday
Khazal: Yeah, I don't know about Magic Rainbow Unicorn Land, but here in Reality, Rhyolith is the worst encounter Blizzard has ever designed.

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Old 07/05/11, 7:14 PM   #50
csar
Glass Joe
 
Troll Druid
 
Burning Blade
I just did some quick napkin math before the raid and it seems possible with BIS 391 gear and some 372-378 gear to get to the 3478 haste breakpoint needed with DI to get the next RJ and WG. Is it worth all the stat loss of mastery and crit and the loss of int on 372 gear vs the 391 to gain those extra breakpoints?

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Old 07/05/11, 8:11 PM   #51
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Mal'Ganis
Unlikely at this tier. You'd have to sacrifice a fair amount of Mastery and Crit, along with Intellect to hit it which would diminish your throughput fairly significantly. Also, without meaning to be rude, every raid is different, "wasting" a DI on a healer is generally not worth it ever because it's not like your raid would be able to carry an extra DPS just because a healer has DI.

<Nite_Moogle> i miss raiding with carebare :< she makes me feel like i am not the only person that hates everyone
Aldriana: I am an asshole, it just so happens that some of my colleagues are even *bigger* assholes.
[R] [85:Neux:2]: i hear if you die on Good Friday they are going to make it where you can't get rezzed until easter sunday
Khazal: Yeah, I don't know about Magic Rainbow Unicorn Land, but here in Reality, Rhyolith is the worst encounter Blizzard has ever designed.

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Old 07/05/11, 8:23 PM   #52
tritus
treetus
 
Troll Druid
 
Mal'Ganis
Made up a little table indicating the stat differences for set piece replacement. In the cases where the sockets and/or bonuses are different, 2 numbers are displayed in the format [difference socketing for bonus] / [difference socketing pure int].

SlotSet PieceReplacementIntHasteMasteryCritSpiritNotes
Head[Obsidian Arborweave Helm][Obsidian Arborweave Cover]0+246+400-289 
Head[Obsidian Arborweave Helm][Cowl of the Clicking Menace]0+256-2610+5 
Shoulder[Obsidian Arborweave Mantle][Obsidian Arborweave Shoulderwraps]+20 / +10-227+195+231-229 / -209Blue (set) vs. Red (offset) socket
Chest[Obsidian Arborweave Robes][Obsidian Arborweave Vestment]0+20 / 0+2690-271 / -291Yellow+Blue (set) vs. Blue+Blue (offset) sockets
Chest[Obsidian Arborweave Robes][Incendic Chestguard]0-2300+23Yellow+Blue+20int (set) vs. Red+Blue+20haste (offset) sockets+bonus
Hands[Obsidian Arborweave Handwraps][Obsidian Arborweave Gloves]-20 / -10+251 / +231-230-202+202Red (set) vs. Yellow (offset) socket
Hands[Obsidian Arborweave Handwraps][Cindersilk Gloves]-20 / -10+191-230-202+258 / +238Red (set) vs. Blue (offset) socket
Legs[Obsidian Arborweave Legwraps][Obsidian Arborweave Leggings]00-244+300-38 
Legs[Obsidian Arborweave Legwraps][Firecat Leggings]-40 / -20+295-2440-11 / -51Red+Red (set) vs. Blue+Blue (offset) sockets

I didn't list the random enchant shoulders, but they should be pretty easy to figure out (I believe the heroic version will have 213 of each stat and a yellow socket).

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Old 07/06/11, 5:29 AM   #53
Nihlo
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Tauren Druid
 
Alleria (EU)
Here are Armorylinks to the random enchant shoulders:
Flickering Shoulderpads (normal)
Flickering Shoulderpads (heroic)

The socket is always yellow and there are five healer types:
2x Int + mastery
2x Int + haste
1x Int + crit

The Int + mastery and the Int + haste enchants have exactly the same value but other names. Probably to make sure that mastery & haste drop more often than the crit version.

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Old 07/06/11, 7:20 AM   #54
Pleinair93
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Worgen Druid
 
Kargath
Actually, the types you've listed are wrong on wow armoury.

There can be haste mastery(feverflare), spirit haste(undertow), crit haste(fireflash), spirit mastery(wavecrest), hit mastery(flameblaze), hit crit(wildfire).

So, take that as you will.

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Old 07/07/11, 2:48 PM   #55
oopsminded
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Night Elf Druid
 
Neptulon (EU)
I see it in the original list, [Firescar Sash], with a heroic variant, which, although I can find it on Wowhead, it doesn't specify a source, and it's not on the [Crystallized Firestone] vendor in game. Does it exist, or not?

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Old 07/07/11, 3:14 PM   #56
Pleinair93
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Worgen Druid
 
Kargath
There is a post with a screen shot of a gm conversation on last page. But its from a gm so take it as you see fit.

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Old 07/09/11, 12:28 PM   #57
DiNet
Glass Joe
 
Troll Druid
 
Tarren Mill (EU)
Hello to you all. I somewhat struggle to make my mind about Tsunami card VS Eye of Blazing Power.
Actual numbers: Majordomo
Overall for 3 bosses

Spell is called Blaze of Life

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Old 07/10/11, 2:04 AM   #58
Greentouch
Piston Honda
 
Tauren Druid
 
Kel'Thuzad
Originally Posted by DiNet View Post
Hello to you all. I somewhat struggle to make my mind about Tsunami card VS Eye of Blazing Power.
Actual numbers: Majordomo
Overall for 3 bosses

Spell is called Blaze of Life
First time I saw logs for that actually... been crazy busy with a new job. I looked at your overall for all bosses, and you have 3% even healing from the proc. Not too shabby. With 46 hits and 12 crits I'd say its a fair guess that it scales with your crit.

And its not just a bit of meter padding either, its a big enough smart heal to save somebody, basically a free(no mana, no gcd, no thought) Regrowth (not counting hot).

I'd call that worth more then 400 spirit. But then its also a substantial upgrade in INT so it's really an easy call, its definitely an upgrade.

I'd still call it 3rd BIS after SoW, and JoD, but not bad at all.

I like the INT trinkets currently, but I'm still going to pick up the [Mark of the Firelord], and or [Fiery Quintessence] once no one wants them anymore, because their real value as I see it, is being able to reforge for haste next tier when we go for next breakpoint.
But for this tier's progression since we are stuck with 2005(or 2032) haste still I'll be using INT trinket + SoW.

Last edited by Greentouch : 07/10/11 at 2:10 AM.

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Old 07/10/11, 3:57 AM   #59
Nihlo
Von Kaiser
 
Tauren Druid
 
Alleria (EU)
I like the combination of int & mastery in the [Moonwell Chalice]. The only other trinket with no regen-stat has crit instead of mastery. Unfortunately you can't upgrade the Moonwell and a lot of player will have access to 391ilvl trinkets with higher int-values before they can buy it.

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Old 07/11/11, 11:46 AM   #60
goodolarchie
Von Kaiser
 
Tauren Druid
 
<tys>
Spirestone
Originally Posted by Nihlo View Post
I like the combination of int & mastery in the [Moonwell Chalice]. The only other trinket with no regen-stat has crit instead of mastery. Unfortunately you can't upgrade the Moonwell and a lot of player will have access to 391ilvl trinkets with higher int-values before they can buy it.
I've been racing to get [Moonwell Chalice] myself. I think it would really pair well with some of the heroic fights with tranq, and does not appear to share cooldown with other trinkets. That would make this + SoW a stellar combo.

Unfortunately, I'm afraid it will come too late. It requires 20+150+150+125 of the firelands daily marks just to open it up. By then, most heroics will be down, and I surmise many of us will have a proper 378 trinket, if not a 391.


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