Great thanks. Will delete line about using other boot enchants.

For JC only gems, use Int. JC-only secondary stat gems don't get the 2:1 benefit found elsewhere on gems.

I made this point in the WrathCalcs thread a couple of weeks ago, but given this is the the primary location for Moonkin TheoryCrafting, I thought it should be a part of this discussion. Please pardon the duplication.

In the OP, Hamlet recommends HotW over NV. I assume that recommendation is based upon his results from WrathCalcs, and if so it's important to understand how WC values cooldowns.

WrathCalcs values cooldown abilities by multiplying the benefit by the uptime divided by the cooldown. For example, a simplified version of the calculation for Nature's Vigil looks like this: (20%*(30/180) = 3.333%). This minimizes the value of the ability since it assumes the lowest uptime possible if the ability is used on cooldown. However, these types of abilities are used at the beginning of the Cooldown, not the end. So, it is possible to have a significantly higher uptime in a fight then is used in WrathCalcs. For example, lets assume the fight is 4 minutes long. If I change the equation above the value changes to: (20%*(60/240) = 5.000%). This is significantly better then the minimum value that WC assumes.

The default settings in Simulation Craft use an average fight length of 7.5 minutes that varies by 20%. So the fights are between 6 and 9 minutes long. Therefore it uses a variety of uptimes to evaluate a cooldown talent like Nature's Vigil. Using the canned gear sets available in SimC, it values NV about ~1% better then HotW. It's not entirely fair to compare WC and SimC since they use different assumptions and such, but with all things considered I do think it's fair to say that WC and Hamlet's guide undervalues Nature's Vigil on the average.

So to properly evaluate which talent is better for a specific encounter you need to know two things.

1) Typical Fight Length
2) How many times can you use your CDs in that Length.

Regarding the first point, the important thing to remember is that your CDs have a much higher potential uptime in shorter fights then longer fights (ex: using the CDs twice in 4mins results in a higher uptime then using them 4 times in 10mins). So CDs are potentially much more powerful in short fights then longer fights.

Regarding the second point, it's important to remember that determining the number of times you can use your CDs in a fight is more difficult then dividing the fight length by 3. In reality, it is extremely unlikely that a moonkin would be able to use his cooldowns on cooldown all the time. Given how they stack and work with Eclipse, there will typically be some delay between when they come off cooldown and when they are used. So, in a 3.5 minute fight you can theoretically use your CDs twice, but in reality you are very unlikely to get the full benefit of that second set. Just keep in mind that the time between uses is going to be longer then 3 minutes.

Are there any plans to make WrathCalcs work with 64bit office?

The sheet should work, however armory import won't due to Microsoft not fully supporting Excel 64 bit. I'd advise everyone to use Excel 32 bit unless you're using gigabyte file size spreadsheets for this reason (you should have both if you have Excel 64, it comes with the installer for that too).

If there are problems with the sheet in general on 64 bit, drop me a PM or post in the Wrathcalcs thread and I'll see if I can resolve. It's possible the earlier fix didn't make the transition to the MoP version.

Anyone able to shed some light on which would be stronger between Mithril Wristwatch and Zen Alchemist Stone?

Don't forget to consider that there is a 170 expertise glove enchant to consider now. This gives spell hit so it would probably be better if you are just over a breakpoint given your previous stat values.

Yeah, I see that only armory import is broken because of ScriptControl being unavailable in 64bit Excel. I've tried to use a vba lib to do json parsing as an alternative but the lib was parsing data into dictionary instead of making a cool and easy to use object as scriptcontrol does so I went on and installed 32 Excel I've still had issues with armory import by the way, not sure why no one mentioned. There's a function that tries to do For Each tree in talents, but there are no 'trees' in my talents in my character's json.
Please let me know if I should post WrathCalcs issues in another thread instead of doing it here.

My guess would be Mithril Wristwatch since INT has a 1:1 SP conversion.

Don't know if anyone has done research/analysis on trinkets yet but i have found Wristwatch and Alchemist stone to be by far the best two trinkets pre raid. Mainly because they both have a 45 sec ICD which along with the short ICD allow them to consistently sync with each other quite nicely.

I would put Vision of the predator in front of Flashfrozen Resin Globule since Vision has a 2.5min CD (this is merely speculation though and not fact). This is also under the assumption you are hit capped, which is not difficult to reach in close to full 463 gear.

In Short: Wristwatch > Alchemist Stone > Vision of the Predator > Flashfrozen Resin Globule

Been going through WrathCalcs and trying to improve on the standard BiS list that Tecton wrote up.

Going from Hamlet's suggestions of Smooth (+320 crit) gems in yellow sockets and Piercing (+160 crit/hit) in blue, along with a few reforge, enchant and gearing changes, I managed to get the overall DPS up to 108023.87. This includes reaching 8089 haste (right on the breakpoint) and 5105 hit (5 over cap). Since we're not just trying to maximise haste and get hit capped like in previous expansions, having two caps to reach simultaneously makes reforging and jumping around those two numbers difficult. There may be one, at a stretch two, better reforging methods than what I've done, but it would be hard to find them. Also, some gear was changed due to ilvl improvements, as well as tier (explanation below). ~1.2k DPS may not seem like a lot, but I think it helps to put us in a better place when compared with the other classes. Rather disappointed Dream of Cenarius looks like the best DPS option..

Anyway, with regards to tier - for Boomkin tier we have the options of: [Eternal Blossom Cover]; [Eternal Blossom Shoulderwraps]; [Eternal Blossom Vestment]; [Eternal Blossom Leggings]; [Eternal Blossom Gloves]. The Resto options aren't too hot either. My reasoning for the change in the first place was simply to minimise mastery on pieces. If we only look at the pieces with mastery, we really want to swap out either the hat, shoulders or pants. We want to stay away from swapping out the pants, since they have a lot of passive haste. Therefore, it's either the shoulders or the hat. I originally swapped in the Resto shoulders ([Eternal Blossom Mantle]) to begin with (which was an increase still), but after finding the awesome [Hood of Stilled Winds], I was able to pull off some great reforging and grab another 200 DPS.

Please pick apart and dissect this gear list as best as you can, so we can figure out exactly what's best. I'm still not sure how to just send people my WrathCalc profile, so I resort to the Wowhead profiler. Don't pay attention to the stats it lists, just take from it the gear/gems/reforges. All talents are default how Tecton left it, I couldn't find any better solution. To compare, download the most recent WrathCalcs update and manually enter the Wowhead data in (I've had problems editing older/different profiles). I'll put the exact pieces with all additives in with spoiler tags tomorrow.



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I've already checked a few things that result in a DPS loss, including (but not limited to):

Using any Resto tier piece is a DPS loss.
[Eternal Blossom Helm] or [Eternal Blossom Cover] in any reforging/gearing scenario is a DPS loss.
[Robes of Eighty Lights] in any reforging/gearing scenario is a DPS loss.
[Bracers of Dark Thoughts] is a DPS loss.
[Weaver's Cord of Eternal Autumn] is (surprisingly, but not surprisingly) a DPS loss.
[Phasewalker Striders] is a clear DPS loss.
[Seal of the Profane] is a DPS loss.
[Jade Magistrate Figurine] is only a DPS loss because [Light of the Cosmos] is required for haste purposes, and [Essence of Terror] is better.

No it's fixed now. The proc chance seems low though. I have way more uptime on my Alchemist trinket than the Mithril Wristwatch.