Can i get some perspective on glyph on shred? so far i find it extremely useless(not even situational) since incarnation makes it totally obsolete, and using it without incarnation only allows you to shred during berserk(and maybe once or twice doing TF uptime) which, with bulk of our DPS being bleeds seems like a prety marginal DPS increase.

Oh and about the guide
1. It says But! DoC specifically doesn't boost tranq! what kind of mind games are afoot here?
2. That one seems to give much more speed... at least to the druid using it. It actually makes me run faster than dash does!(at least in cat form)

3. As much as i LOVE having stat weights of 4pc high-ilvl gear can we get some weights for 489-496 ilvls with no pieces?

I don't think the glyph of stampeding roar gives you extra speed. You are just speckled into feline swiftness. This talent stacks with the roar but not with dash I suppose.

For the stat weights, you should simulate them yourself. The new simcraft with the GUI is ridiculously easy to use if you just want the weights. It will be more accurate for you and with a little bit of practice you will be able to mess with the priority list

It is a marginal increase, but it's still an increase, which most glyphs don't give anymore. As an example, I use it very frequently on Heroic Feng as the mechanics and our strategy force me to be in front of the boss many times when berserk or TF is up.

Good catch, corrected DoC to HotW.

Stampeding Roar stacks with your passive movement speeds such as boot enchants, cat form, and the Tier 1 move-speed talent, if you got it. Thus you can find yourself going 210% - 245% of normal runspeed with it popped.

It would be nice, but it's difficult at the moment. The stat weightings I have right now aren't all perfect given the changes to HotW.
I simulate them at 100k iterations and have to do so for every talent combination, and to do so at each gear level I have to choose arbitrary sets of gear at a certain level, find the best possible set of reforges and enchants, and simulate , scaling for all stats, at 100k iterations. Given that due to our workload I haven't recently had available free time on our proton-sim computers to do the simulations, I would be stuck with doing them on my horrible single core workstation here. Needless to say that, while it's definitely possible and it is on my to-do list, it does take a little bit of time that I don't always have to spare.

This is why I placed the link to simcraft in the guide. If you (or anyone else) have a couple free hours and would like to put in the time to select multiple gearsets and make various profiles with the different talent combinations and do the simulations yourself and post the results, I would be more than happy to take a look at them and possibly update the guide with them if I can make them succinct enough. Other than that, it will have to wait until I have a little more spare time.

This is because dash is slower not because Stampeding Roar is faster. During the MoP pre-expansion updates they hotfixed Dash so it no longer stacks with Cat Form, instead of increasing your run speed multiplicatively by 70% like it used to. Stampeding Roar, like pretty much every other movement speed effect in the game, still increases your run speed multiplicatively so if you're using Cat Form + Feline Swiftness + Runspeed to boots, it's actually increasing your run speed by 92%, compared to Dash which would only increase your move speed by 55%.

SimulationCraft mostly gets its damage formulas from the WoW InGame tooltips. There is the possibility to look at the action details in a SimC html report, where you can look at and double check if the static base numbers are correctly imported/implemented into the Simc action. Just expand a action to get to its details, and look at the numbers like base_dd_min, base_dd_max, direct_power_mod ( SP/AP scaling ), weapon_multiplier, etc.

For dynamic stuff and everything, you can usually look directly at the SimC Druid code - it's completely open source, with a lot of whitespaces and most things should be easy to read and understand even for people who never coded anything. For example rip: sc_druid.cpp - simulationcraft - World of Warcraft DPS Simulator - Google Project Hosting ( line 2021 to 2045 ), where you can see how to tick_power_mod ( the AP scaling for the dot part ) is scaled by the amount of combo points you have.

If you want to double check the attack model besides the AP scaling of a ability, you'll have to go out of the class code into the action core code of SimC - a bit more complicated. We are pretty confident that everything there works exactly as it does InGame, but feel free to check.

PvP 4piece. I highly recommend it if you're not likely to get 502+ in 3 slots within the next 2-3 weeks.

It is quite useful for DoC as it bounces you between finishes reliably, on Beta I was using it 15s offset from TF to bounce faster. Very strong set bonus.

In other news, Displacer Beast is a nice way to pump some extra DPS out. I estimate 1.5-2% dps increase if used correctly.
Link below:
Displacer Beast is a DPS talent? - YouTube

You can use it on the following encounters this tier with relative ease:
MV: Feng, Gara'jal, Will of the Emperor
HoF: Blade Lord, Wind Lord (execute), Amber Shaper
ToES: Sha of Fear

Hi Guys!

I also have a question regarding my priority list or better what to do if...
I play with DoC and SoF and there are often moments, where I have prroblems deciding what would be the best choice.

Lets make an example:
Trinket procs are up, I have one charge left of my DoC and 5cp, but lets say 10 seconds left on my rip. If I don't clip the dot I will have problems getting it up in time and it will most probably not be an enhanced one (trinket doc).

There are several of these situations, but this is the one i am most troubling with.

Thanks
Knuet

You may want to add Spear of Xuen - Spell - World of Warcraft into the pre-raid and dungeon gear list. It is a Pandaren archeology rare, but has a 463 item level and is also Bind on Account and only requires level 85 to equip. It makes a great starter weapon for fresh 90's and a fantastic leveling weapon for ferals/guardians/brewmasters/windwalkers.

Is there any highranked feraldruid thats using DOC right now? I feel that using wrath with hero + pot and crit banners from warriors is so much more dps then trying to max a rotation that noone will ever be able to do good enough to be realy worth it.

Also i would like to know if the op have updated the stats with hotw nerf? Becouse im going mastery > crit reforge and im doing more then well on the fights i can dps even when haste should be better?

Wrath is never worth using. Heart of the Wild is about 15k behind DoC on any given fight minus Wind Lord at the moment. DoC really isn't that 'hard' it's just a playstyle change that you have to adjust to.

Source: World of Logs - Real Time Raid Analysis

No.

Unfortunately the most current feral script is not checked into Simulationcraft. It can be found here: The Fluid Druid - View topic - Experimental simulationcraft script

Last time I measured, passive HotW was about 3.8% behind DoC in the most recent simulations. Also the sims show that using Wrath spam is not a dps loss - it is close to dps neutral and it is certainly an option when fight mechanics favor it. Given that in general we are not doing Patchwerk fights, it is not always possible to have DoC procs lined up with Rips, which makes the gap between DoC and HotW even closer. Neither aggixx nor I have done sim work on more complex fights so I can't tell you by how much. If you want an idea of how close together the abilities are, run some LFRs using each one on different fights. NV is also pretty close, simming slightly better than HotW (0.3%), but by far less than the usual variance you get from RNG (which is generally +-5% on any given fight).