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Old 01/09/13, 5:59 AM   #46
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So is the consensus that the wild growth 6652 break point is a complete waste of time?

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Old 01/09/13, 10:45 AM   #47
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Not quite that bad, but in general it doesn't seem to be worth giving up other stats.


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Old 01/14/13, 3:58 AM   #48
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Originally Posted by Numiro View Post
Using shrooms is a huge waste of time in day time, I'm not even gearing for spirit and have no problem sustaining proper mana on Tsulong, spending 3 globals (3.6 sec) just to get that really low amount of healing isn't going to be effective if you have other things to use. If you're running oom you probably want to cast less regrowths/nourish/healing touches.
There's no real reason to not use Shrooms on Day Phase, honestly. You have plenty of downtime before the first breath to lay them down, and the bloom doesn't cost a global so it's just a free 5*15*3k healing.

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Old 01/14/13, 6:36 AM   #49
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Hi guys,

I'm playing my druid since early TBC and switched a lot in specs, being either heal or tank. I remember the times where you rolled LB on everyone or you were using Reju mainly.

Time has come to look for serious improvement, thats why I'd really like to get feedback on my char and my playstyle to see where I can improve, so any feedback/constructive criticism is welcome :-)

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Thanks in advance!

edit: seems that I logged out with tank-gear. Shouldn't be a big deal as I use an i492-equipset with 3060 haste and reforging to mastery, having 9k spirit.

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Old 01/14/13, 8:01 PM   #50
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A couple quick suggestions for you.

Drop the Glyph of Rebirth for the Glyph of Regrowth. In MoP GoRebirth is nice, but more of a luxury, since Rebirth naturally brings the target to 60%. Generally this is enough that the target doesn't get instantly killed unless they were Rebirthed into a void zone or something anyway. On the other hand GoRegrowth allows you to drop Nourish and Healing Touch, since Regrowth will now heal harder than a non-crit Healing Touch for half the cast time, and approximately as efficiently as Nourish (more so if you count LS). It will also increase the power of your ToL, as you'll have many CC'd Regrowths.

Using Grand Empress 1/7 as an example, I would suggest using ToL more often. Even aside from the healing boost, it has mana saving properties as well, so you'll want to maximize your casts of it. Your Scroll of Revered Ancestors as well, you have 5 uses on a 9 and a half minute fight. If nothing else you can at least macro the scroll to everything, as outside the first 20 or so seconds of action it doesn't really matter when you hit it. And since I'm mentioning trinkets anyway I'll drop the obligatory mention of the Relic of Chi-ji and how it's quite good.

Having done those, I would suggest looking at how much spirit you really need. Exactly how much is going to be a personal question that you'll have to answer for yourself, but with your priest's Hymn of Hope, and a bit better cooldown usage you might find that you don't really need all 9K. In your case this isn't even a manner of reforging to other secondary stats yet, as you can convert your excess spirit gems to INT gems for large throughput gain.

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Old 01/15/13, 8:57 AM   #51
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Thanks a lot for your objective feedback!! I know that I can use ToL and Trinket more often. I don't like to bind them on a spell so I may use a little indicator on the screen when both cooldowns are ready to improve that behaviour. I will also try to re-gem a little and change that glyph.

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Old 01/16/13, 7:28 AM   #52
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Originally Posted by tioz View Post
Thanks a lot for your objective feedback!! I know that I can use ToL and Trinket more often. I don't like to bind them on a spell so I may use a little indicator on the screen when both cooldowns are ready to improve that behaviour. I will also try to re-gem a little and change that glyph.
Well my nr 1 tip to help you improve in raids is to keybind everything, I've got everything bound except moonfire atm (accidentally pulled a boss when trying to type so no more instant damage abilities on easy binds), other then that you'll find that you bring alot more to the raids when you've bound everything since it's so easy to use stampede, cyclone, roots, Typhoon and so on, in general you won't use them, but 1 out of 5 tries is enough for me to feel the need to have those keybind so you don't have to take precious seconds away from keeping people alive.

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Old 01/16/13, 8:39 AM   #53
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I was not speaking about keybinds in general, sorry. I was speaking about binding trinkets to a spell like Reju in a macro ;-) ofc I try to keybind every spell possible.

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Old 01/16/13, 8:52 AM   #54
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Originally Posted by tioz View Post
I was not speaking about keybinds in general, sorry. I was speaking about binding trinkets to a spell like Reju in a macro ;-) ofc I try to keybind every spell possible.
I don't see why not, you lose valueable seconds if you need to identify that the trinket is of CD, then move your fingers to click it and then resume what you were doing before. It's not like spirit is ever going to be more benefical depending on the time.

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Old 01/17/13, 5:26 AM   #55
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I do not click with my mouse. I have the trinket bound to a hotkey (alt+1) which I press when it's off cd, I'm infight and below 280k mana. My improvement after Quincunx feedback is, that I now have an indicator on screen if the trinket is off cd.

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Old 02/07/13, 2:04 PM   #56
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No Raid Haste Buff...

I raid 10-man pretty much exclusively and unfortunately, we have no Shadow Priest, Elemental Shammy, nor Moonkin. I therefore miss out on the 5% raid buff. I'm looking for advice on what to do. Do I try to pump up my haste to the point where I can hit the unbuffed haste break points (at the loss of mastery), or do I just ignore haste completely and try to focus on mastery.

Please advise.

Thanks

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Old 02/07/13, 2:33 PM   #57
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Assuming your 2/5/13 raid is your standard composition, your hunter was using a Quilen. A Quilen's crit buff will be wasted, since your mage provides the same crit buff via Arcane Intellect, and you have a DK for spare battle rez. Have the hunter go tame a sporebat, and you'll have your haste via Energizing Spores.

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Old 02/08/13, 4:52 PM   #58
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Well if there is any 1 who can tell me is incarnation better on Tsulong 10N fight then SotF?
With 495 item level i can do 118k-120k max so far with SotF&HoW, i can always check on lfr but will be nice to get some professional opinion

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Old 02/12/13, 1:47 AM   #59
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So I've been healing with 5730~ haste for the SotF build. And have had a few guildies suggest I go back to Mastery.

I've been keeping up with the other Resto Druid in terms of healing and mechanic wise who is also using the SotF 5730~ build.

My question is how much of a difference in healing is there between 3043 Haste / Max Mastery Build and the SotF 5730~ Build.

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Old 02/12/13, 2:34 AM   #60
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Assume you have a "starting" 3043 haste build with max-2.7K mastery. If you add that 2.7K mastery, you'll increase all of your heals by ~4.5% depending on your stats. If instead you go to 5730 haste, your Wild Growth will tick 13 times instead of 12 times, for an increase of 8.3% to Wild Growth. Note that the 5730 breakpoint does not confer another tick onto the Swiftmend HoT. Let's assume for the sake of argument that all of your WGs are SotF'd and you lose no WGs due to CD discrepancies. How much healing do you do with Wild Growth? I just pulled up a few of my logs (SotF spec) and they were around 20%-25%. Let's say 25%. An increase of 8% to a quarter of your healing is an increase of 2% overall. So I'd say a best case estimation is that you'd gain 4.5%-2% = 2.5% healing by going to 3043 haste.


Edit: Actually that's interesting because we've been assuming around about a 2% HPS loss from going to the 6650 breakpoint for an "ordinary" build. Despite being less of a mastery cost, it's an even worse idea.

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