Feral Megathread - Page 12

Venomia · 10/13/07, 5:58 AM

Is there any reason why is the armor penetration on it Use: or just a plain bug?

edit: nevermind, its a typo

ThatSammyBoy · 10/13/07, 8:59 AM

Dont give up on the [Primal Man-catcher] just yet.
It seems that the use effect is active until death. Witch would make it an awesome use effect. Havent been able to confirm this yet tho :/

Wings · 10/13/07, 9:30 AM

Originally Posted by ThatSammyBoy

Dont give up on the [Primal Man-catcher] just yet.
It seems that the use effect is active until death. Witch would make it an awesome use effect. Havent been able to confirm this yet tho :/

It's armour penetration. It's supposed to be passive, it's just a typo or something. Still doesn't make it that spectacular if have Merciless Gladiator.

seminarca · 10/13/07, 11:20 AM

k, going back to the /cancelform thing since I finally managed to copy to PTR. Using the following two macros:

#show Dire Bear Form
/cancelform
/cast Dire Bear Form(Shapeshift)

#show Cat Form
/cancelform
/cast Cat Form(Shapeshift)

Starting out in Bear Form, and hitting the Bear macro just puts you in humanoid form as people have already reported. Using the Cat macro whilst in Bear form results in pretty much an instantaneous shift. It's as close to form-to-form shifting as we're going to get, and I'm really happy about that. I took a combatlog just to check timings, to see if there's any gap:

10/14 01:15:36.589  Cat Form fades from you.
10/14 01:15:36.589  Track Humanoids fades from you.
10/14 01:15:36.589  You gain Dire Bear Form.
10/14 01:15:36.870  You gain Furor.
10/14 01:15:36.870  You gain 10 Rage from Furor.

As you can see, Dire Bear Form is gained at the same exact millisecond as Cat Form fades. Brilliant! .. if it only worked for Bear > Bear shifts ><

I think it's a bug which we should get on their ass about on the PTR forums. Need to make some noise about this so they can look into the issue.

edit: Quick search on the PTR forums turned up a few threads. This one seems to have the most activity so I'm going to hijack it. It seems there are also issues using /cancelform in Moonkin and Tree forms.

Valerian · 10/13/07, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by seminarca

I think it's a bug which we should get on their ass about on the PTR forums. Need to make some noise about this so they can look into the issue.

There are other reports on the PTR and UI forums about Cancelform not working properly with Shadow Priests either so its likely its still being tuned.

Krag · 10/13/07, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Valerian

There are other reports on the PTR and UI forums about Cancelform not working properly with Shadow Priests either so its likely its still being tuned.

Slouken posted he was looking into that, so hopefully it gets fixed.

Schnigges · 10/13/07, 12:59 PM

edit : nevermind

dukes · 10/13/07, 1:06 PM

It's fake. I'm on there right now, and it's still only 550armour/47str/96stam/1059AP.

On a side note, my unbuffed AP has gone up over 300 in cat form. <3 hotw + FAP change

Grizzly · 10/13/07, 2:37 PM

How does the Jewelcrafter only gem [Design: Crimson Sun] compare against [Design: Delicate Living Ruby] for dps with the changes to attack power?

david0925 · 10/13/07, 2:59 PM

Right now on WoWhead database, Belt of One Hundred Deaths isn't documented with Expertise rating yet. However, assuming that it retains 25 Expertise Rating, it is probably better than Alejandro's Money Belt since the -1.5% Dodge rating is really good for energy efficiency

Cuer · 10/13/07, 3:30 PM

Yes, the Belt of One-Hundred Deaths now has 25 Expertise instead; all the melee-based weapon skill affects were directly converted to that.

It does seem worth stacking some Expertise, after hitting the 9% hit cap, to eke out more DPS, if the items with it are otherwise worth using.

Malazaar · 10/13/07, 3:56 PM

Does indeed seem to top Don Alejandro's. Also, unless i missed something, this ring is going to be seriously good for us:

Signet of Primal Wrath - Items - World of Warcraft

Signet of Primal Wrath
Binds when picked up
Unique
Finger
+28 Agility
+30 Stamina
Requires Level 70
Equip: Increases attack power by 58.
Equip: Your attacks ignore 126 of your opponent's armor.

Krag · 10/13/07, 5:18 PM

Originally Posted by david0925

Right now on WoWhead database, Belt of One Hundred Deaths isn't documented with Expertise rating yet. However, assuming that it retains 25 Expertise Rating, it is probably better than Alejandro's Money Belt since the -1.5% Dodge rating is really good for energy efficiency

It has 25 expertise rating on PTR as expected. All the (melee) items I could find have had their weapon or feral combat skill exchanged for the equivalent expertise rating.

Edit: Goddamn, I type slow.

♦ masanbol · 10/13/07, 6:17 PM

So now that we have yet another way of mitigating a mob's avoidance, what is the expertise cap for dodge on a 73 mob?

david0925 · 10/13/07, 7:27 PM

Originally Posted by masanbol

So now that we have yet another way of mitigating a mob's avoidance, what is the expertise cap for dodge on a 73 mob?

9% dodge will need 36 Expertise, or 36x4= 144 Expertise Rating to fully mitigate