Feral Megathread - Page 199

kalbear · 04/07/08, 2:08 PM

Are you able to switch this macro to be used with cat form?

Yes; use "Cat Form" wherever you see "Dire Bear Form", and change the stance:1 to stance:3.

Kaidman · 04/07/08, 3:46 PM

Originally Posted by charriu

Well, the actual mechanic of shifting hasn't changed with 2.3 (wich introduced client-side shifting), so you'll always see the caster form with some kind of lag. If you don't see it, your computer was simply to fast. Nothing to really worry about, since you can't really do anything about it.

Fairly certain I got hit by Brutallus yesterday using a macro for Ironskin pot. Seen a 12k hit on SCT, didn't go back to check my in game Combat Log to confirm. The 12k hit was not during Stomp.

I was running /combatlog and FRAPS both so I'm sure my pc was bogged down some. Stopped frapsing after that and was leery to use Seed or pots while Brut was on me. Will try to check my Log later to see if I can find it.

Mijae · 04/07/08, 4:17 PM

Originally Posted by Astrylian

Regarding all the different gemmings in b13... Yeah, I kinda went overboard on all the different possible gemmings, sorry about that. I'll try to clean that up in b13.2 or b14. In a more general sense, I hope to revamp the gemming system to avoid all that clutter anyway, at a later time, but in the immediate future.

Quite an understatement. It's quite a hassle to use with some of the lists so long. Great that new version can auto-add custom items in saved sets though. I'm sure it would be pretty hard to save a list of items to delete.

Torpesh · 04/07/08, 4:25 PM

Originally Posted by Kaidman

Fairly certain I got hit by Brutallus yesterday using a macro for Ironskin pot. Seen a 12k hit on SCT, didn't go back to check my in game Combat Log to confirm. The 12k hit was not during Stomp.

I was running /combatlog and FRAPS both so I'm sure my pc was bogged down some. Stopped frapsing after that and was leery to use Seed or pots while Brut was on me. Will try to check my Log later to see if I can find it.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that slowness on your machine will have nothing to do with any delay between switching forms if you send it in a macro like above. It's all happening server side. You might see the graphics of the switch being slowed, but that shouldn't have anything to do with whether or not you can be hit in caster form at that time.

You said that you had /combatlog on... can you go back and check to see if you were indeed hit out of form?

Mijae · 04/07/08, 5:28 PM

Originally Posted by Astrylian

Rawr b13.1 Released - Rawr - Release: Rawr b13.1

The new Rawr optimizer found a lower total DPS set when using "Known Gemmings Only" and an even worse one when using "All Gemmings".

Astrylian · 04/07/08, 5:40 PM

Originally Posted by Mijae

The new Rawr optimizer found a lower total DPS set when using "Known Gemmings Only" and an even worse one when using "All Gemmings".

Thanks for the report... Can you please give me the character file that you used (cnervig@hotmail.com), and tell me exactly what optimization settings you used?

seminarca · 04/07/08, 7:10 PM

Re: all the duplicate items in rawr with lots of different gem combos.

Back in b12.1 I went through and deleted all duplicate copies of socketed items, leaving only two per item. One I would socket fully with Solids (Empyrean Saphire for T6+ level stuff, Star of Elune for T5- .. tanking) and the other I would socket fully with Delicates (Crimson Spinel for T6+ level stuff, Living Ruby for T5- .. dps). Socket bonus considerations would be taken on a per item basis, and rarely come into play when making a decision anyway. So this gave me a nice clean list without much clutter, and it gave a very good *general* idea of where stuff places in relation to one another. If you wanted to get a more specific idea depending on what gems you'd actually put in a specific item (to meet a meta requirements for example), well you could always just create a third copy.

The UI for doing gems is a bit clunky (sorry Astrylian!) so I did it in notepad (lots of Ctrl+F and copy pasting). Oh, and I also removed as many caster or Rogue items as I could find.

I can upload my old ItemCache.xml file if anyone wants.

PS: Thanks for b13 kek :>

xyruul · 04/07/08, 7:27 PM

Is there a new eta for mangle bot functionality in rawr?

Cluey · 04/07/08, 7:32 PM

Could we all try and keep the Rawr specific discussion in the http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t21713-r...l_development/ thread please?

Astrylian · 04/07/08, 7:51 PM

Anything that's not model specific, please take to http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t21713-r...l_development/
Problems/suggestions with the Cat/Bear model in particular, I believe that this is the appropriate place.

Inaiwae · 04/08/08, 2:26 AM

Originally Posted by Kaidman

Fairly certain I got hit by Brutallus yesterday using a macro for Ironskin pot. Seen a 12k hit on SCT, didn't go back to check my in game Combat Log to confirm. The 12k hit was not during Stomp.

Offtopic: You mean ironshield potion, right? Why do you use it when brutallus is on you? You can drink it when he's on the other tank.

spartakos · 04/08/08, 3:33 AM

Originally Posted by Kaidman

Fairly certain I got hit by Brutallus yesterday using a macro for Ironskin pot. Seen a 12k hit on SCT, didn't go back to check my in game Combat Log to confirm. The 12k hit was not during Stomp.

Are you sure you are crit immune?

miracool · 04/08/08, 4:53 AM

Originally Posted by dgafguy

Are you able to switch this macro to be used with cat form?

If you are seriously low on health in a boss fight - why do you want to wait for the GCD to finish to keep you alive?
Doesn't make sense IMHO

If you are gonna die - swallow that HS ASAP!

Vaccine · 04/08/08, 5:11 AM

On Brutallus, if he hit you in Caster form (whcih with pot you'd have like 10k armour) he'd one shot you quite easily. Only thing I can think of would be that you lucked out and dodge his Main hand hit and the 12k was an offhand one.

But the bigger question, why use a macro at all for Ironshield pots? Use them just before you take it off the other tank when you switch out to barkskin. I think it was more likely a crit mainhand attack, 12k without stomp would sound about right for that. Can't see because your character profile links to a warlock.

Originally Posted by Monkens

And also would any druids experienced with Feral DPS'ing be able to help me improve me dps?
I'm used to playing a hunter so i don't know how much i should be doing. Rawr suggests around what i'm getting, so i guess that's good.

Here's a WWS of me last night: Monkens - WWS

Can anybody see any ovbious things i could improve? (Ferocious bite was only cause the boss was at 1% health and rip wouldn't of have time to tick)

Looks fine to me. For a Druid at your level of progression I wouldn't really be expecting more than that.

What I would say is that the rest of your guild has incredibly low DPS. I'd expect with your ~1000 dps for you to be in the bottom realms of the DPS charts, maybe around/above the shadow priests. Najentus isn't ideal for a DPS check due to his shield phases short changing some classes (especially dot classes) but still, I wouldn't be expecting to see a Warlock at 670 dps, other ranged averaging around 800, its pretty shocking even for a guild just stepping into BT. That you and the Enhancement Shaman, both really support classes, are 3rd and 4th respectively on DPS/dmg is bad. I'd be intrested in seeing other WWS parses from better bosses than this (Rage winterchill would be better).

But to answer your question again, your DPS looks fine if not higher than I'd expect at that level.

Carlos · 04/08/08, 5:26 AM

Monkens
Here's a WWS of me last night: Monkens - WWS

Originally Posted by Vaccine

Looks fine to me. For a Druid at your level of progression I wouldn't really be expecting more than that.

What I would say is that the rest of your guild has incredibly low DPS. I'd expect with your ~1000 dps for you to be in the bottom realms of the DPS charts, maybe around/above the shadow priests. Najentus isn't ideal for a DPS check due to his shield phases short changing some classes (especially dot classes) but still, I wouldn't be expecting to see a Warlock at 670 dps, other ranged averaging around 800, its pretty shocking even for a guild just stepping into BT. That you and the Enhancement Shaman, both really support classes, are 3rd and 4th respectively on DPS/dmg is bad. I'd be intrested in seeing other WWS parses from better bosses than this (Rage winterchill would be better).

But to answer your question again, your DPS looks fine if not higher than I'd expect at that level.

When I look at our 2 Naj'entus kill WWS
Kill #1 Wow Web Stats
Kill #2 Wow Web Stats

I must say that we just started MH/BT after 2.4 leaving Vashj and Keal sitting were they are. The effects Monkens sees are the same. Some are very easily getting into the fight others might need more time to find their spot on theDPS charts.