Coming back to the weapon discussion for a bit.
As most of us I'm pretty disappointed by [Item not found!] and its stat assignment. I can't see really whether it is an upgrade from [Terestian's Stranglestaff] I'm currently wearing or not. Assuming you are hit capped i suppose the ignore armor plus the added AP are worth more than the agility on the Stranglestaff.
Being a casual raider compared to most of the posters on this board and no big PvPer I consider [Vengeful Gladiator's Staff] out of my range but i will see once S3 hit the table.
The [Merciless Gladiator's Maul] would be the "last" alternative but i would think that i will be better using my "rare" arena points for some random S3 armor which doesn't require a personal rating. As these pieces are really great for my point of progression (2/4 TK..) for both tanking and dps.
So what are you guys using for dps or what would you use at that point of progression?

I'm not happy with it but i think i have to live with the fact that you have to be "good" at PvP to fill your PvE role as good as possible as a druid

I've tanked Teron, Gurtogg, RoS (Bears are amazing for phase 3), Shahraz and Veras Darkshadow on Council. Illidan is pretty much impossible and/or stupid to have a bear tank on because we cant avoid shears in a reliable manner.

To continue the list:

- Teron: Hit's very hard, possibly favours a warrior because of shield block, although I'm sure a druid can tank him.
- Gurtogg: Needs 2 tanks, almost favours druid tanks because of threat generation.
- RoS: P1 is shared anyway, P2 a warrior tank is pretty much required while learning (spell reflect or else you won't have the DPS to kill it in general), P3 can be done by anyone really, but there's a fair amount of magic damage = favours warrior slightly.
- Shahraz: Advantages either way (less magic damage or more armour). Can't crush.
- Council: Multi-tank fight. Favours warrior on priest/paladin because of reflect/(easier) interrupt.
- Illidan: Shear requires shield block. P2: Easier to get crit immunity in fire res as a druid, and generally higher health pool.

Are you sure that a warrior would be slightly better for phase 3? Phase 3 being the dps race it is it would seem that a high aggro tank would be preferable, and with most of our threat being directly derived from our dps our threat would scale at the same rate as the dpsers.

I'll work on it.

Murwen: I'm not sure really. P3 is generally no problem for us agro wise with a warrior tank, and never has been. I suppose it depends on your tank - we have someone who knows what they're doing with agro as they're always pushed to the limit to do as much as possible. Also, having a prot warrior DPSing in p3 is generally worse than having a feral DPSing. For mitigation's sake, I'm pretty sure a warrior is better in general (partly because they can just shield wall the end of it if need be).

I suppose our warrior tanks are a bit undergeared since we've had below average number of tank drops. Though does your guild have any glaives yet? I'm curious to know how well a warrior could keep up with a rogue or a fury warrior (lol) with the main hand and going all out for dps.

Damage wise p3 souls is definetely better for warriors but aggro wise, I'm not sure. Dont know if our tanks (and druid tanks) suck but in general on reliquary the dps is always just behind the MT and could easily get over. From this point of view (and especially in p3 where every second matters) it sounds better to have a druid tank to squeeze out maximum potential dps rather than 1.5k less dmg on MT every few seconds.

As for Teron, hes definetely doable as well and actually its even not that bad with the crushings (he got quite slow attack speed and massive hit potential, so armor works awesome there). Aggro wise it was about 300-500 tps difference, which can count aswell.

Great work.

I'd like to point out that during stun a Warrior looses 3 abilities (Block, Parry, Evade) and is left with pure armor mitigation (+ less damage from Defensive Stance). Same thing for Druids, but they only loose Evade. In addition to that, we can easily have 20% stun resist (15% from Talent and 5% from Metagem). I think it comes down to, how much the Warrior or Druid can mitigate while stunned to evaluate who should tank that Boss (I believe T6-Warriors are able to Mitigate more than 75% of damage even while stunned)

Archimonde does not crush.

Morogrim Tidewalker favors a Druid especially if you have the choice between a T4-Warrior and a T4-Druid, later on the Warrior becomes more and more viable.

If we're talking about efficiency the most you should be able to get is 20 energy back. When powershifting you're clearly going to want to shift at lowest energy possible which means you will have just attacked. Even with the insta-shifting on the PTR there's still the 1 sec GCD to deal with before you can shift back in. That means at least 1 second will be wasted when powershifting meaning a net gain of 20 Energy. With the one button shifting it should be quite easy to actually do this though, so its not that big a deal. 3 shifts per minute at this rate is already the same energy generation as the 2T4 bonus which is quite important dps wise and still a good boost to dps.

My fixed spirit regen is something like 114 MP5 while not casting so that returns 1368 mana per minute. Combined with raid buffs and pots/dark runes (if needed), not to mention your initial mana pool, it should be possible to shift much more than 3 times per minute, especially for short fights. With the instant changes its going to pretty much be a button you press to gain you 20 energy. Thats pretty good in my opinion.

I was under the impression that /cancelform was like cancelaura in that it did not trigger a GCD.

There's two options here:

0.0 Energy tick, 42 energy.
0.0 Shred -> 0 Energy. 1 second GCD.
1.0 Powershift (instant) -> 40 Energy + restart energy tick.
3.0 60 Energy

Or:

0.0 Energy tick, 42 energy.
0.0 Shred -> 0 Energy. 1 second GCD on abilities.
0.0 Powershift (instant) -> 40 Energy + restart energy tick.
2.0 60 Energy

In the first the maximum gain is 30 energy. In the second the maximum gain is 40 energy.
I believe it's the second one. As long as Form changes work like Stance changes for warriors (pretty sure they do), where the stance cooldown is independant of the GCD.