We had our first evening of attempts on Brutallus yesterday and our other Feral Druid tanking was having some serious threat issues, he was doing around 1300 tps. WWS showed that he had a lot of misses, making me think to equip some more +Hit (SSC Boots and Bagde Belt) but I'd be trading survivability for that. Never the less I am concerned about threat generation for Bears in general (due to poor Hit and lack of Expertise on our T6-Gear) and I'd appreciate some advice.

Well we talked about it a few pages back. Brutallus gives infinite rage anyway so Maul every hit, spam swipe and Mangle whenever possible. Not much else to say really. The boss is tauntable, if you keep an eye on KTM you can use taunt during your tanking phase should any ranged starting getting too far ahead of you on the threat meter. A taunt will bring you just over him and as the fight goes on the chances of a ranged pulling aggro from you are less and less (because the % to pull becomes a much higher threat figure each time you taunt).

You can also, if you aren't already, use consumables like [Adamantite Weightstone].

No it won't - that's totally NOT how taunt works.
Taunt gives you the threat of the mob's CURRENT target and forces it to attack you afterwards. Following taunt the previous aggro target would need 110%/130% (melee/ranged) of your aggro to re-pull it, which is enough time for you to pull away again.

You would have to actually allow a ranged dps to pull aggro THEN taunt in order to get the effect you describe.

Yer you're right, my bad.

Maybe just look at your threat generation cycles then if you are having trouble. I was running at around a 20% miss rate on our first kill and practices and wasn't having trouble with generating threat. Raid dps was just over 29k.

You do not need to use nightmare seeds in bear form. As with ironshields, you can use them before you taunt. They have 30 seconds duration so it is possible with little planning.

I made following picture about meteors and stomps. It uses actual combat log data for meteor and stomp timing. Provided that these are regular (so far it seems to me that they are), you can plan when to use trinket / seed.

Top line shows which tank actually tanks. Transition period is when the tank lines switch place. Stomps which fall in this period (5-7) are tauntable.

I noticed the same thing and had an email all typed out to send to Astrylian when I double-checked things and noticed that you not only have to select which items are available to you, but also which gems and enchants are available to you. Without doing that it will create an outfit that has no gems (or enchants) even though the one that you're currently wearing has them. Once I selected some gems and enchants everything was good and I now have a pretty clear wish list for 2.4 Badge gear/MH/BT.

Just wondering what the general consensus is about the [Thunderheart Waistguard]. I'm tanking brutallus tonight and if it drops I'd be in line to get it. I just had [Belt of Natural Power] made though and I really do like the extra gem slot on it. I'm a little low on hit but I do fine for threat on bosses.

Is it worth me wearing [Thunderheart Waistguard] over [Belt of Natural Power]?

Rawr seems to think [Belt of Natural Power] is better. Do you think it's wrong?

I'm pretty disgusted by it to be honest. Wouldn't touch it for tanking anything hard hitting, would use it in a trash set maybe. The bracers whilst not as bad still aren't that much of an upgrade over the badge ones.

The boots are the best piece and a great upgrade to Den Mother. I got those on our first Felmyst kill (yay for MT priority ).

They're good for threat gen, but the main reason you'd want them would be so that you can retain 4pc immediately once the good stuff starts dropping. With tier sets coming out boss asses, I really don't see why tanks can't be defaulted one each, unless your raid is struggling so badly for dps that a mage or rogue with a belt a week or two earlier will really help a ton.

Well our Warrior MT was defaulted one of each. I just didn't want them to be honest. As you say they drop so much I can them up easily once I start replacing my T6 with SWP non-set stuff.

Our guild has killed Brutallus and we're using the 2 tank, 7 healer strat. We are using a warrior and a druid to tank, starting with the Druid first on the MD.

We had an attempt where we got him to 2% and it was pulled by a mage with around 2250 dps, we ended up killing him an hour later, but all 3 of our mages had to fully invis.

After looking at the WWS report, our druid did not lacerate once, only used swipe/mangle/maul. Most of the top DPS guilds WWS reports show their druids not touching swipe at all, and using only lacerate/mangle/maul in their TPS rotations.

Think this had alot to do with the pulling or is there something else we may have done wrong? I am trying to find the solution so our mages don't have to invis (most top dps guild's mages don't invis).

Thanks for the replies.