Originally Posted by droeber
Out of curiosity, what are other BT-Farming druids generating as their average threat-per-second on boss fights, mainly Bloodboil and Illidan Flame tanking? I'm not really having a problem with threat, but would always like to generate more faster, as my Flame is almost always killed first, and I hate being a cap for DPS. I'm also interested in Brutallus numbers, if anyone has those.
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To add to what Astrylian said, threat also largely depends on what group you can get into. These days we occassionally run a second Enhancement Shaman on farm raids to gear him up, and he goes in the tank group. Unleashed Rage is huge for threat. But if you're in there with just a Resto Shaman (SoE/WF) and a Prot Warrior doing Commanding Shout (or being lazy with Shouts), well that's not as much fun.
BM Hunter groups are generally good for threat as well, 2 x FI and Resto Shaman's SoE/GoA is not a terrible place to be.
The two encounters you mentioned specifically have some special conditions. While Flame tanking, you'll be in FR gear, so threat stats are likely to be gimped. Personally, I offset that by getting the 2T6 bonus (Shoulders/Bracers) and using a DPS gemmed/enchanted S3 helm (lots of Hit Rating), so play around with what you can achieve threat wise while remaining crit immune and FR capped. Bloodboil is mostly fine when you've got a nice Rage income from the ticking debuffs, but right at the start (if you're not the first tank) you can get screwed by crap Rage generation from too many glancings, or not enough hits/crits, and then you're playing catchup. You can try eating a Cleave or two to help though.
As far as Brutallus goes, I'm the first tank and usually in a 2 x BM Hunter, 1 Survival, Resto Shaman (SoE/GoA) group. I don't pay attention to the rolling TPS value on Omen, since it fluctuates a lot, but I note down how much total threat I had when the other tank taunts after 3 slashes. With 3 Misdirects, Bloodlust after ~10 seconds and Drums, my best was ~78k threat, so about 2600 TPS (lots of crits in this as well, not many miss/dodge/parry). Mostly though, I average around 52-58k, 3 x Misdirects, Drums, but no Bloodlust, which is a much more reasonable ~1833 TPS.
edit: It obviously peters off after the first 30 second segment, but that's the most crucial bit, to give DPS enough of a lead to start letting loose. I'll note down total threat on our next kill to find average TPS, but I don't know if that'll be as relevant since we spend half the time DPSing in Cat form.
edit2: It'd be nice if someone could adapt coolyo's TPS calculator for Druids:
[Warrior] Sustained TPS / WWSed
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