The new Idol seems pretty insane.

The procrate is 85% according to the Wowhead spell description.

The idol basically increases your agility by 65 each time your mangle ability hits.

With Blessing of Kings and Survival of the Fittest, it's close to 74 agility.

That's close to 3% crit chance, 5% dodge chance and 80 cat attack power.


My question is: how much gear do you need for this to become effectively better than the +88 to shred idol?

(One thing is for sure though: for solo play, pvp and tanking, this idol is number one.)

I know you asked for Dukes' reports, but I figured I would share mine if that is alright with you.

Archimonde 1167 DPS - Kaz'rogal 1424 DPS

For me this last patch was a HUGE buff as previously I would either place dead last on DPS meters or some place on the lower half. It was pretty much like this during the entire night. Would be nice to see similar reports from other Druids to see how they are doing now as well.

You had a mangle-bot in both these fights.

Wow Web Stats 1103 dps

I found this on the WoW druid forums. It uses a pot/HS regardless of what form you were in and then brings you back to that form. It works well.

/cancelform [stance:3]
/use [nostance] Super Healing Potion
/use [nostance] Major Healthstone
/cast [nostance] Cat Form
/stopmacro [stance: Cat form]
/cancelform [stance:1]
/use Super Healing Potion
/use Major Healthstone
/cast Dire Bear Form

BTW, the best food i think you eat atm might be

[Spicy Hot Talbuk]

The amount of hit you get from that is amazing and allow you to gem out for more agility and/or make different gear choices.

The recipe is gotten through the daily cooking quest.

From strictly an itemization standpoint, the food gives the exact same amount as all the others - 20 points. I guess it really depends on your gear, etc. but if your gear's gem slots gave you the choice, 20agi food and 4 5hit/5agi gems is exactly the same as 20hit food and 4 10agi gems. (Although being really really nitpicky, crimson spinels are a lot more in demand and 5hit/5agi allows you to nab yellow sockets)

Unless you're actually a computer program disguised as a humanoid, or have superhuman reaction times, missed attacks will generally throw you the chance of screwing up your cycle somewhat, be it shredding without mangle up, mangling twice, letting energy tick past 100 (esp with Bloodlust or OOC procs) etc. It's wildly different from the clinically accurate world of spreadsheeds and DPS simulations.

As much hit as you can get without going over the cap should be ideal, although you shouldn't specifically sacrifice other stats for it. Mostly, items which also happen to have hit on them from good itemization should be sufficient.

A better (imo) version of this is:

#showtooltip
/cancelform [stance:1]
/use [nostance] Super Healing Potion
/use [nostance] Master Healthstone
/cast [nostance] Dire Bear Form
/stopmacro [nostance]
/cancelform [stance:3]
/use Super Healing Potion
/use Master Healthstone
/cast Cat Form

First, I fixed it, the /stopmacro line needs to have [nostance] not [stance: Cat form]. Second, I swapped the order, so that if you hit this in caster form, it goes to bear instead of cat.


The cool thing about potting in bear form that I haven't seen anyone mention lately, is that a bear potting actually gets more health than a warrior/pally potting. 4000-5000 for Super Pot + 2/2 Master Healthstone for a warrior, 5382-6727 for a bear.

My point is that there are a lot more choices that are out there getting Agi, and few that give you +hit. You can be under the hit cap and use the food to make the hit cap. Then make better gear choices because of that.

From what I understand, the Everbloom Idol is worth 400-500ish ap on shreds. I don't see that getting replaced any time soon.