Just a quick question from someone who hasn’t used pot macros before. I’d like to use the following macro to pot in forms (as posted earlier in this thread).

#showtooltip
/cancelform [stance:1]
/use [nostance] Super Healing Potion
/use [nostance] Master Healthstone
/cast [nostance] Dire Bear Form
/stopmacro [nostance]
/cancelform [stance:3]
/use Super Healing Potion
/use Master Healthstone
/cast Cat Form

However, when it has two /use items in a row like that, that don’t share a cooldown, does it use both items at the same time? If so, is there a way to make it use the Healthstone first, and ONLY use the healing potion if the HS cooldown is up?

Otherwise I can see myself making one copy of this macro for the HS and one for the pot, and taking my pick.

Voldin: Your spreadsheet is showing more DPS with no finisher, than with ferocious bite. Is this accurate? IIRC, my FB does about 20% more damage than shred. Is the way energy is refunded on a miss enough to make it worse?

I've not looked at the spreadsheet so I can't comment on the formula but I thought it was generally accepted that on bleed immune bosses continual shredding eclipsed non-powershifting FB due to the energy drain making its cost huge for marginally more damage. I certainly net mroe damage from shred spam than using the combo points.

My ferocious bite does less damage than my average Shred if it does not critically hit, and on my last Void Reaver I seriously wondered if it was worth using it since most of my ferocious bites were not critical hits (I have 48% crit fully buffed), next time I will try to do the whole fight without it since I consider more and more ferocious bite as an useless attack breaking my cycle due to the energy drain (even with powershifting).

I was at 48% crit and around 4800 AP (I am with a warrior and an enh shaman)

On a side note I tried [Prism of Inner Calm] I got from vashj the day before and it is really awesome on this fight, I usually have to take pauses for my threat to remain under the warriors but with it I could go all in without any pause until the end (I just waited a little time before starting).

So let me get this, is the s3 helm better then t4 for dps? If so i should grab mine next week!

Yes its way better except if you have the engineering dps head or Cursed Vision of Sargeras or you use the t4 head for the 2/5 set bonus.

As a summary, your best pieces to replace your fifth piece of endgame gear (after 4t6 or 2t4/2t6):

[Cursed Vision of Sargeras]
S3 Helm (if you're 4t6 and have your t6 helm tank-geared)
[Nether Shadow Tunic]
S3 Chest or helm
Pants/shoulders with DPS enchant?

How can PvP gear be better then PvE for raiding

I searched and could not find any direct DPS comparision of Staff of Primal Fury to either the S2 or S3 Mace. I picked this up last night and I believe I can now use my banked Arena points for the S3 head and chest instead of the Mace. The item link wants to point to the old Man Catcher (or I have it cached somewhere on my side), so I just linked the URL.

What are your thoughts?

1. It is an oversight on Blizz's part, and it may get fixed if enough people bitch about it.

2. It is NOT an oversight, and Blizz wants to encourage PVP arena participation.

Alright, few questions from my side.

1) There's a lot of new items in 2.3 from ZA that give you armor penetration stats like ignore armor and not to mention even an enchant on your weapon. Is this really worth stacking? I mean does it is make a huge difference to increase feral DPS in a raid by significant amount? Just how good is armor penetration for raiding point of view? If it that good, should we give up the T4 helm over S3? For example, most of us probably use [Stag-Helm of Malorne], but what about [Vengeful Gladiator's Dragonhide Helm]?

2) How good is the T4 2pc set? Good enough to ignore it for the 4 pc T5 set bonus? I personally would love to have that extra shred damage. I think there's got a be a price to give up the T4 2pc set bonus at a certain point when you are hit capped and sitting at a high amount of AP/Crit, dishing out a high amount of dps. Shouldn't that be our highest priority? Having a good amount of AP/Crit along with Hit capped so we can sustain high DPS over any thing else?

3) A lot of us don't have multiple sets of Tier gear, meaning we usually enchant and gem our T4/T5/T6 for tanking since it's what we do the most. How do you make the perfect DPS off-spec set that's viable for good sustained DPS? For example, my T4 shoulders are gemed and enchanted for tanking, which is why I use [Shoulderpads of the Stranger] for my DPS set since it offers the best stats I can get.