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05/31/08, 6:04 PM
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#1126
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Von Kaiser
Night Elf Druid
Nathrezim
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Is this anything more or less than the software equivalent of a G15 keyboard? Blizzard is officially okay with those, right? Now, they're not guaranteed to be logically consistent always in policy, but I can't see the difference.
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05/31/08, 9:56 PM
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#1128
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Piston Honda
Tauren Druid
Gorgonnash (EU)
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That is just absolutly crazy, just to be curious how to you keep 5 lifeblooms rolling then over a night? (or 4 stacks the point doesn't change) Do you guys really mash your keys for hours on end like a mad man? I'm really scared for my account right now. :/
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Wash the spears . . .
. . . while the sun climbs high.
Wash the spears . . .
. . . while the sun falls low.
Wash the spears . . .
. . . who fears to die?
Wash the spears . . .
. . . no one I know!
- Aiel chant
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05/31/08, 10:28 PM
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#1129
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Let's Paint, Exercise, and Lifebloom
Night Elf Druid
Proudmoore
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Originally Posted by Aciara
That is just absolutly crazy, just to be curious how to you keep 5 lifeblooms rolling then over a night? (or 4 stacks the point doesn't change) Do you guys really mash your keys for hours on end like a mad man? I'm really scared for my account right now. :/
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Yeah this is actually what I've always done, I have a mac with a standard keyboard so no AHK or G15.
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06/01/08, 12:07 AM
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#1130
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Von Kaiser
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The real answer is closer to "don't bother." 5 Lifeblooms will probably remain the holy grail of hot healing for TBC at least but other than doing it, and yelling in druid chat that you are doing it, its not really all that useful or awe inspiring.
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06/01/08, 7:37 AM
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#1131
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Glass Joe
Tauren Druid
Alleria (EU)
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WotLk-Patchnotes:
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- Gift of the Earthmother (new) - Reduces the global cooldown of your Rejuvenation and Lifebloom spells by .1/.2/.3/.4/.5 sec, and causes your Healing Touch and Nourish spells to refund 1/2/3/4/5% of their base cost for each healing over time effect on the target.
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06/01/08, 10:11 AM
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#1132
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Von Kaiser
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Eeep, thank you Borona. Editing original post about this subject.
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06/01/08, 12:00 PM
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#1133
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Von Kaiser
Night Elf Druid
Nathrezim
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That's interesting to know. At least it does demonstrate consistency, as Blizzard, as I do, regards autohotkey as the software equivalent of G15 key repeating. The news is that neither is allowed. While I don't have a G15 myself, I had been under the impression that this function was okay and that some prominent givers of caster advice here used it. Perhaps I just inferred the former from the latter.
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06/01/08, 12:23 PM
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#1134
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Let's Paint, Exercise, and Lifebloom
Night Elf Druid
Proudmoore
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Originally Posted by Goedel
That's interesting to know. At least it does demonstrate consistency, as Blizzard, as I do, regards autohotkey as the software equivalent of G15 key repeating. The news is that neither is allowed. While I don't have a G15 myself, I had been under the impression that this function was okay and that some prominent givers of caster advice here used it. Perhaps I just inferred the former from the latter.
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Such things were assumed to be okay until very recently (a few days ago). It's generating something of a stir in certain communities, particularly hunters and DPS casters.
And again, please don't discuss WotLK talents or spells here, keep this thread to TBC only. Feel free to make a new thread for WotLK discussion, many other specs have them already in the class mechanics forum.
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06/03/08, 3:06 AM
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#1135
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Piston Honda
Night Elf Druid
Outland (EU)
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I have a question about Combat Ress. How do you guys locate the dead body? We hade a wipe because one of our druids couldn't find the CR target. And quite frankly I my self can find it kind of hard to keep the LB stacks running and at the same time try to get in range for the CR.
Do you mark dead bodies with a Raid Icon or does the dead body spam ping on the minimap?
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Do not matter how much you play, you will never get the carrot.
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06/03/08, 3:13 AM
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#1136
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Let's Paint, Exercise, and Lifebloom
Night Elf Druid
Proudmoore
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Minimap ping usually, or verbal description of the area. ("I died over by the...")
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06/03/08, 4:03 AM
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#1137
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Piston Honda
Yiri
Tauren Druid
No WoW Account (EU)
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Minimap ping. I do sometimes zoom it to fit the "room".
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06/03/08, 4:32 AM
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#1138
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Von Kaiser
Draenei Shaman
Cenarion Circle
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Questions for the Burn healers:
2-3 slashes are retarded hard to heal, as giansm covered. What is the prevalence of people taking 2-3 slashes?
We're losing people early on in the Burn debuff because they've got 2-3 slashes that haven't dropped off yet, and with my backup healer being a Prot Pally that is specced Holy just for Brutallus, I don't have the free GCDs to keep hots on a 3rd new Burn victim as I have to keep full hots + use SM and a new Regrowth during the last 10 secs to keep Burn people alive.
We're changing up our healing lineup on our next attempts, so I should be able to keep lifeblooms on all the burn victims, but I am curious if we're doing something wrong to cause so many people with slashes during Burn.
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06/03/08, 5:29 AM
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#1139
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Piston Honda
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I'm not sure why that would be a huge issue. If the player started running to the safe zone immediately after the burn, the slash debuff would have expired before the burn ticks become significant. Bad RNG may happen, but that's usually the case.
Also, sometimes the 2nd burn healer may be inclined to toss occasional heals towards the MT, which is bad when you got 3 burn victims and/or late slashes. He is best reminded to be fully focused on healing burns, and only heal MT when you got lucky streaks like burn on players that can cloak/ice-block/bubble out immediately.
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06/03/08, 6:26 AM
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#1140
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Magtheridon (EU)
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A r8 regrowth keeps up new burns just fine, only when they have 2/3 slashes you need to keep a lb/rejuv up.
Using lb stacks on new unslashed burns is just a waste of gcds.
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06/03/08, 9:56 AM
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#1141
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situational villain
Blood Elf Paladin
Mal'Ganis
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Originally Posted by CasT
I have a question about Combat Ress. How do you guys locate the dead body? We hade a wipe because one of our druids couldn't find the CR target. And quite frankly I my self can find it kind of hard to keep the LB stacks running and at the same time try to get in range for the CR.
Do you mark dead bodies with a Raid Icon or does the dead body spam ping on the minimap?
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Other people have answered the location question; regarding the LB stacks, I usually NS my Rebirth.
Originally Posted by Kamileon
Questions for the Burn healers:
2-3 slashes are retarded hard to heal, as giansm covered. What is the prevalence of people taking 2-3 slashes?
We're losing people early on in the Burn debuff because they've got 2-3 slashes that haven't dropped off yet, and with my backup healer being a Prot Pally that is specced Holy just for Brutallus, I don't have the free GCDs to keep hots on a 3rd new Burn victim as I have to keep full hots + use SM and a new Regrowth during the last 10 secs to keep Burn people alive.
We're changing up our healing lineup on our next attempts, so I should be able to keep lifeblooms on all the burn victims, but I am curious if we're doing something wrong to cause so many people with slashes during Burn.
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Take a look at the WWS and see what kind of healing your helper is doing. If he's chaining flash of light, he's not really helping. Get him to pull his weight and you should have enough time to babysit slashed people until the slashes fall off.
As to the fight in general, burn healing can vary greatly in difficulty from attempt to attempt. Sometimes he'll nail people from the soaking side every Burn and sometimes you'll get so many immunes/resists you can spend half the fight nuking.
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06/03/08, 10:31 AM
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#1142
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Pig Farmer
Night Elf Druid
Emerald Dream (EU)
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Originally Posted by CasT
And quite frankly I my self can find it kind of hard to keep the LB stacks running and at the same time try to get in range for the CR.
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I use macros to target and cast LB on the targets I've been assigned to for a fight. So when I have to move around while keeping up a rotation, I usually just use the both-mouse-buttons movement trigger while my other hand is keeping up my rotations. The casting time for Rebirth is short enough to not interfere with my LB rotation usually, worst case would be RJ falling off.
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06/03/08, 11:57 AM
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#1143
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Frostwolf
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Downranking spells and gemming
Hi,
i have some questions regarding my resto druid, ive read alot of these pages, but i am kinda new to these forums so i havent gotten the time yet to read al 46, sorry if i ask something thats allready been asked a million times.
I'd like to know if i gemmed right, sitll contemplating against 22 healing vs 11 healing/5 spirit, guess its just personal preference (and i <3 spirit) I'll add a link to my armory so you could see how i gemmed atm and i would love some suggestions (if any are necessary)
The World of Warcraft Armory
(I think WoW armory is messing up a bit atm and not showing 100% correctly because is sure do have everything socceted but not all of m are showing up)
Furthermore i'd like to know how you guys deal with downranking your spells (I.E. Regrowth and Rejuvenation) as of now i havent really done it, but i'd love to know if i should (in raids like ZA/SSC/TK)
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06/03/08, 12:06 PM
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#1144
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situational villain
Blood Elf Paladin
Mal'Ganis
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[Super Mana Potion]
Socket +heal. Don't downrank. Unless you're standing around spamming Regrowth, or you're not using any consumables at all, you won't have mana problems.
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06/03/08, 12:19 PM
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#1145
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Von Kaiser
Gnome Warlock
Thrall (EU)
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I only socket a blue gem if there is a large +heal Bonus, e.g. Life-Step Belt or the T6 Helmet. And I only run into trouble on Council, when some people are too slow to get out of aoe, and on Mother. In both fights mana potions save the day, so I don“t really see the point in gemming for regen.
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06/03/08, 12:28 PM
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#1146
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Frostwolf
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So for my [Helm of Natural Regeneration], [Gnarled Ironwood Pauldrons], [Eversong Cuffs] U would suggest just straight 18/22 Healing gems? Because i think its worth keeping the socket bonus on my chest (15 healing vs a bunch of spirit and some int)
yeah, now i think of it i never really have mana problems, especially with that new alchemy trinket, and i usually even end up giving away my innervates >.<
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06/03/08, 12:45 PM
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#1147
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situational villain
Blood Elf Paladin
Mal'Ganis
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Go orange/red on the shoulders, straight red on the rest.
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06/03/08, 12:59 PM
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#1148
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Von Kaiser
Night Elf Druid
Nathrezim
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Originally Posted by Kemono
Furthermore i'd like to know how you guys deal with downranking your spells (I.E. Regrowth and Rejuvenation) as of now i havent really done it, but i'd love to know if i should (in raids like ZA/SSC/TK)
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I think a fair number of druids will use a downranked regrowth for raid healing. I typically use rank 8, it heals for 2-3k (depending on a crit). I will never downrank a LB (not that you can) or Rejuv, because these are just HOTs (whereas regrowth I use for the direct heal largely), and the purpose of a HOT is generally proactive (what-if) healing. For the same reasons, if it's a target at significant risk (eg. a tank or AOE dps on an AOE pull) I will not downrank regrowth, even if I know the direct heal will be overhealing. I'd rather waste a bit of mana and have a bigger swiftmend available if needed.
Edit: Never say never...I should learn. Downranking rejuv is viable in the special case where you have an accurate estimate of how much damage will be incoming and can downrank to match that incoming damage (and there's minimal risk of additional unpredicatble damge).
Last edited by Kalaghan : 06/03/08 at 2:04 PM.
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06/03/08, 1:06 PM
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#1149
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Let's Paint, Exercise, and Lifebloom
Night Elf Druid
Proudmoore
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Originally Posted by Kemono
So for my [Helm of Natural Regeneration], [Gnarled Ironwood Pauldrons], [Eversong Cuffs] U would suggest just straight 18/22 Healing gems? Because i think its worth keeping the socket bonus on my chest (15 healing vs a bunch of spirit and some int)
yeah, now i think of it i never really have mana problems, especially with that new alchemy trinket, and i usually even end up giving away my innervates >.<
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The bracers are a clear choice for a red gem.
For the shoulders since you have red + yellow and a +healing socket bonus, you should socket red + orange. As an aside, if the socket bonus was not +healing, then unless you needed another yellow for an IED it should have been two reds. A decent general rule is to match colors when you have either all red sockets, or one any color socket + any number of red sockets (zero or more) + healing socket bonus.
In the hat, you have a crazy combination of sockets. Wearing it obviously means you're not using an IED, so you have no need for yellow gems. I'd put full red in there.
However, I'd also try to find a helm with a meta socket as soon as you can because the IED really is pretty overpowered. I would recommend using an IED always unless you are geared for maximum power and you never, ever have mana problems, in which case it's okay to go with a meta-less helm or a Bracing gem. The reason for this is because the IED has an extremely favorable tradeoff ratio between power and regen (even when you count the extra blue and yellow gems you will need) and it should really be one of the last things you get rid of when you are trying to shed regen. The only item that comes close in terms of tradeoff ratio is the Darkmoon Card: Blue Dragon, which could have a better ratio than the IED if you don't have a Memento and Alchemist Stone, and if you couldn't make any +healing socket bonuses using your IED-required yellows and reds.
About downranking, the only thing I ever downrank is Regrowth. I'll use rank 8 in a couple of situations: I already have a rank 10 hot up and I want it to keep ticking, or I'm doing a heavy amount of raid healing (in which case I usually mix rank 8 and 10).
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06/03/08, 1:24 PM
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#1150
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Tree Hugger
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Quick question on downranking rejuvs. We started Felmyst pulls this week and with amp magic, I was able to get rank 10 rejuv to tick for 1001. Are you using rull strength rejuvs there? Even with the idol of budding life, I was running into issues with mana by the start of the second air phase. (Maybe I just need to work on better mana retention, just want to get a feeler out, though.)
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