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Old 06/14/08, 4:52 PM   #166
unitsinc
Von Kaiser
 
Tauren Druid
 
Korialstrasz
I've finally decided to try and get into this despite the fact all this seems way over my head, but I really would like to be the best feral that I can be, so I downloaded Feralkit and as soon as my character loads I get a a Lua error 246 attempt to call global' CombatTexas_AddMessage' (a nil value)

The only thing new I see on my screen is a small bow with a "0" in it and nothing I do changes it. I can use the /fk commands, but I can't really figure out how to do much of anything with the commands.

I also copy/pasted the toggle on/off macro and the mangle macro to auto powershift. The only question I really have about those is, in order to do the same for any other ability, do I have to create another toggle macro set to a different threshold, because if I am understanding the macros correctly, then the toggle I have will make me shift at whatever energy threshold I have listed. But from what I have gathered, it is best to have a different threshold set for every different ability.

I'm really terrible with macros so please forgive me if I sound terribly ignorant.

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Old 06/14/08, 7:17 PM   #167
Tembetyu
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Bloodscalp
Originally Posted by unitsinc View Post
I've finally decided to try and get into this despite the fact all this seems way over my head, but I really would like to be the best feral that I can be, so I downloaded Feralkit and as soon as my character loads I get a a Lua error 246 attempt to call global' CombatTexas_AddMessage' (a nil value)

The only thing new I see on my screen is a small bow with a "0" in it and nothing I do changes it. I can use the /fk commands, but I can't really figure out how to do much of anything with the commands.

I also copy/pasted the toggle on/off macro and the mangle macro to auto powershift. The only question I really have about those is, in order to do the same for any other ability, do I have to create another toggle macro set to a different threshold, because if I am understanding the macros correctly, then the toggle I have will make me shift at whatever energy threshold I have listed. But from what I have gathered, it is best to have a different threshold set for every different ability.

I'm really terrible with macros so please forgive me if I sound terribly ignorant.
Thresholds are set in the macro for each individual ability. The toggle just turns the power shifting option on/off.

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Old 06/18/08, 1:31 AM   #168
gobbles
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Frostmourne
I've been messing around with the inline macro's and find they are working really well and i love them to death. Much better than when I used to manually powershift.

My caster bar comes up but i dont think - despite spamming the button - I've started casting anything i have bound there yet.

The only time I've gotten stuck in caster was during the last 10% of archie when i powershifted while in the bubble. But that's likely an issue with the bubble since you cant seem to shift forms while in it in any case.

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Old 06/19/08, 9:11 PM   #169
Gaseous
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Proudmoore
The macros now work great. I couldn't get any shifts with /console autounshift 0, so I set it to autoshift and the macros and addon all work perfectly now. Just gotta be careful not to hit the lifebloom key while tanking now o.O

Thanks for all the great work guys.

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Old 06/22/08, 9:13 AM   #170
manapaws
Piston Honda
 
Tauren Druid
 
Blackrock
Originally Posted by Astrylian
I've had the most success with Mangle=15, Shred=18, Rip=10, Bite=15.
I notice that you have the t6 set bonus though. For those of us without it, do you recommend just adding 5 to mangle and leaving the rest as is?

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Old 06/22/08, 12:57 PM   #171
Astrylian
Rawr
 
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Night Elf Monk
 
Stormrage
Yes, that's correct.

Rawr!

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Old 06/24/08, 4:10 AM   #172
Demiah
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Khadgar (EU)
i've skim read this thread and i dont appear to have read anything that explains the reasoning behind having shred at 24 energy lower than its cost when the other are all 1 tick (20 energy) below their full cost.
Could someone explain that to me?

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Old 06/24/08, 4:29 AM   #173
Astrylian
Rawr
 
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Night Elf Monk
 
Stormrage
Well, it's pretty simple. Shred can't be used immediately after a powershift, because it costs more than 40. You have to wait until the next energy tick (60), then shred (down to 18). So 18 is the cutoff. Any higher than 18, and it ends up cycling powershift->tick->Shred->powershift->tick->shred. One powershift per shred is really expensive.

Rawr!

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Old 06/24/08, 4:33 AM   #174
Demiah
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Khadgar (EU)
Ah yea ofc, thanks man, i'd just not through it through properly.

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Old 06/24/08, 8:31 AM   #175
Spookeh
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Tauren Druid
 
Emerald Dream (EU)
I use 22 for Shred.

I don't find I run OOM in a typical boss fight really.
I use mostly 2T4 / S3 / 2.4 badge items, (rather than end-game rogue leather) so they give a fair amount of int. We also have a lot of ferals (to mangle for me) and a lot of paladins (so I get blessing of wisdom) so maybe that helps.
My AP is 3100ish unbuffed and 48% crit.

The last fight i looked, (in ZA i think, doing ~1100dps) Shred was 58% of my damage- I shred a LOT. This means everbloom idol blows the others completely out the water- Rawr doesn't account for powershifting to this degree, and so over-values the Rip idol.

Last edited by Spookeh : 06/24/08 at 8:36 AM.

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Old 06/24/08, 4:59 PM   #176
sal
Von Kaiser
 
Gnome Warlock
 
Azgalor
Originally Posted by Astrylian View Post
I've had the most success with Mangle=15, Shred=18, Rip=10, Bite=15.
I have been using mangle=14, shred=19, rip=9, bite=14. If I did not have 2T6 I would attempt mangle=19.

My reasoning for this is each gives - worst case scenario - one additional energy over a tick without missing the next attack. With these values I find I still have an abundance of mana available in a raid setting as well as solo.

For reference this is with 2T4 2T6 active and stacked crit.

Only recently tried powershifting, the result is nothing more than amazing with these macros, I have for sure seen a jump from 1300 to 1500-1600 dps dependent on setup and encounter. In other news kitty gear is more than ample to rip off and tank hyjal for the first 4 bosses in hyjal.

still pending a dps check in sunwell, typically tank most of the bosses in there.

Last edited by sal : 06/26/08 at 2:58 PM.


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Old 06/25/08, 6:31 AM   #177
angi
Von Kaiser
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Kil'Jaeden (EU)
On Brutallus i run oom with a 14/18/14 setup around the 4 minute mark, i changed to 11/11/11 and now it works fine. Getting only marginal energy per shift and possibly wasting a ooc procc is not that great in my eyes. This is what botheres me most with the macros, if an ooc-procc accures under the energy limit and i click shred, the ooc-procc is used for the shift not the shred. This is a waste of very much energy (up to 40), is it possible to integrate into the macro to not shift if an ooc procc is active?

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Old 06/25/08, 10:17 AM   #178
Spookeh
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Tauren Druid
 
Emerald Dream (EU)
ooc check? probably? the first macro has a check for having the cat form buff, presumably u can do the same for if you have the ooc buff... ?


/run local f="Cat Form";f=GetSpellCooldown(f)>0 or UnitMana('player')>XXX or not IsUsableSpell(f) or CancelPlayerBuff(f)
/stopmacro [form]
/cast Cat Form

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Old 06/25/08, 10:20 AM   #179
Demiah
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Khadgar (EU)
I can't say im anything of a macro wizard Angi, but i don't think its possible to integrate that im afraid. Only reason these work for us is because of Cancelstance (warriors can't do this because if they were to cancel stance they would theoretically be in nothing, if that makes sense, but for us we would be in caster) which blizzard didn't limit us from. However, i dont think conditionals for buffs like that are aloud.

I don't really think its very often that your going to lose an OOC, personally i try to smash the macro as little as possible and try to do at least a little bit of human monitoring.

Remember as well that if you intend to heavily power shift then your going to need to chug mana pots when available, in which case you could probably stay with 14/18/14.

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Old 06/25/08, 11:12 AM   #180
angi
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Night Elf Druid
 
Kil'Jaeden (EU)
Originally Posted by Demiah View Post
I can't say im anything of a macro wizard Angi, but i don't think its possible to integrate that im afraid. Only reason these work for us is because of Cancelstance (warriors can't do this because if they were to cancel stance they would theoretically be in nothing, if that makes sense, but for us we would be in caster) which blizzard didn't limit us from. However, i dont think conditionals for buffs like that are aloud.

I don't really think its very often that your going to lose an OOC, personally i try to smash the macro as little as possible and try to do at least a little bit of human monitoring.

Remember as well that if you intend to heavily power shift then your going to need to chug mana pots when available, in which case you could probably stay with 14/18/14.
I need the manapot for a battlerezz, so chain chugging manapots is no option for me. Not smashing the buttons means loosing energy at the shift because you reset the energy tick timer each time you shift and the later you shift the more of the current running tick you loose. That is the big advantage of the macros you can smash them and don`t have to worry if the powershift is an energy gain or not. If an ooc procc is lost, you quickly destroy the energy of 3-4 shifts. If that happens more than once in a fight, the whole powershifting was worthless.

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